Wolverine: Old Man Logan

[Vanguard07]

Probably not. but if he caught them by surprise (which in this case he did) he could probably take most of them.

 

[samurai black]

Could Wolverine REALLY defeat ALL the X-Men?

NO. No freaking way. Not even on his best day and at their worst. The X-Men have dealt with a crazy wolverine bf. Even under some dire circumstances, if he was going all uber-beserker, they would've put him down. Cyke or Storm would'v done it w/o hesitation. But for the purpose of the story, I guess he did.

 

[squeekness]

Understand that Logan was under the influence of a trickster/illusionist when this happened. He probably wasn't the only one not on the top of his game. This is what I tell myself because yeah, he couldn't have taken them all if they were fully aware of him.

 

[kguillou]

Technically, emma Frost by herself could've taken him down, she would've telepathically told wolverine's brain to "stop" or something...

 

[Vanguard07]

From a strictly logistical standpoint, the only ones he couldn't kill would be Iceman (if he's iced up), maybe Colossus (armored up) and maybe Emma (diamond form).

And given that Mysterio was casting Illusions the whole time, Wolverine's attacking them would almost certainly have caught them off guard and there's a chance that a lot of them wouldnt even know they were under attack.

Mysterio can make people see different things at the same time, they were likely all victims of seperate illusions.

The only real problem with the believability of this scenario is it doesnt take Emma Frost's telepathy into account, which should have been a complete counter to Mysterio.

Still if you assume that Mysterio tricked Logan into attacking Emma First and she hadn't had time to react then the scenario works.

However in a straight up fight? No. No way in hell would Logan beat them. In fact the majority of the team individually could take him down. As a team he'd have no chance in hell.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

From a strictly logistical standpoint, the only ones he couldn't kill would be Iceman (if he's iced up), maybe Colossus (armored up) and maybe Emma (diamond form).

And given that Mysterio was casting Illusions the whole time, Wolverine's attacking them would almost certainly have caught them off guard and there's a chance that a lot of them wouldnt even know they were under attack.

Mysterio can make people see different things at the same time, they were likely all victims of seperate illusions.

The only real problem with the believability of this scenario is it doesnt take Emma Frost's telepathy into account, which should have been a complete counter to Mysterio.

Still if you assume that Mysterio tricked Logan into attacking Emma First and she hadn't had time to react then the scenario works.

However in a straight up fight? No. No way in hell would Logan beat them. In fact the majority of the team individually could take him down. As a team he'd have no chance in hell.

I know, i mean, Colossus alone has knocked Wolverine unconcious, back when Arcade brainwashed him...

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Could Wolverine REALLY defeat ALL the X-Men?

Like Mysterio said, if they were holding back and hesitant....yes.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I can't imagine why the present-day X-Men would hold back against Wolverine. How many times has he fought one or all of them before? And isn't Cyclops in his hyper-militant badass mode? I don't think hesitation had much to do with it. I think Mysterio probably just kept them from realizing what was happening until it was too late.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I can't imagine why the present-day X-Men would hold back against Wolverine. How many times has he fought one or all of them before? And isn't Cyclops in his hyper-militant badass mode? I don't think hesitation had much to do with it. I think Mysterio probably just kept them from realizing what was happening until it was too late.

Yeah, i mean didnt Beast go all out against Logan in the first Astonishing arc?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't even remember the first Astonishing arc, it was so long ago. I only remember Logan getting all self-righteous about how Beast was being a bad mutant for not wanting to be a giant blue housecat anymore.

 

[bryanss3]

Wouldn't Wolverine be able to smell that he was stabbing Jubilee and not Bullseye?
also I'm curious as to why they didn't kill Wolverine after he killed the X-Men?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Who's "they"?

And Mysterio probably figured out a way to fool all of Wolverine's senses. If the villains were pooling their resources and knowledge, it shouldn't be too hard for Mysterio to come up with new ways to trick people. Hell, Dr. Doom improved his illusions a lot with just one device over in Dr. Doom and the Masters of Evil; not canon, but a good example of villains helping each other out nonetheless.

 

[bryanss3]

by they I meant Mysterio and the other villains

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, that's a good point. I'm not reading it so I don't know.

 

[bryanss3]

I read it but I've never bought an issue I don't even pay attention really to when it comes out I just know there is a Vonom T-rex next issue.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

by they I meant Mysterio and the other villains

The point was to F him up psychologically and to get rid of the X-Men, not kill him.

I read it but I've never bought an issue I don't even pay attention really to when it comes out I just know there is a Vonom T-rex next issue.

Would be cooler if we didn't just have symbiote dinos in Mighty Avengers.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The point was to F him up psychologically and to get rid of the X-Men, not kill him.

Why? Isn't that sort of ******ed of the villains?

 

[bryanss3]

The point was to F him up psychologically and to get rid of the X-Men, not kill him.

yeah, but they're villains I know he doesn't "pop his claws" now, but why even risk that one day he might seek revenge? I know why cause if they killed him they wouldn't be able to write a story

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Why? Isn't that sort of ******ed of the villains?

yeah, but they're villains I know he doesn't "pop his claws" now, but why even risk that one day he might seek revenge? I know why cause if they killed him they wouldn't be able to write a story

C'mon guys, they're villains. The same guys who tell the tied-up heroes every detail of their plans while not realizing that locks are being picked and ropes being slipped out of as they speak. The same guys who'd rather hook a hero up to this long ass mouse trap death device rather than slit their throats b/c they wanna see the hero suffer of some BS

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But wasn't the whole point of the villain alliance that they'd gotten past that and were being smart?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Haha, no. Just that a lot of them had gathered together in the same place and decided to work together.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But they're all overly theatrical egomaniacs, as you just pointed out.

 

[Hush]

Corp quit being Aristotle-light and just read the damn thing!

Onto the Egomaniac thing, they did eventually split up the world so that they all owned there own part. They basically teamed up for ONE big battle, f'ed wolvie up so much he just couldnt fight anymore and then had to worry about Thor at the end. Like the Sinister Six only with every single villian.

 

[Blader5489]

I don't see why Logan couldn't defeat the X-Men (except for Emma, who wasn't there, so it's a non-issue). As long as he has his claws and his healing factor, I don't see any of the others could stop him.

 

[kguillou]

Yes but Logan can still be Ko-ed. Colossus could probably do what the hulk did and pound his head in until he gets brain damaged and then ko-ed. Cyclops could fry him until he passes out etc...just because he's invincible doesnt mean he cant be temporarily put out of commission.