Wolverine: Old Man Logan

[Spider-Jay420]

So, uh, ... can somebody help me out here?

What issues is this story in?

You guys talkin 'Old Man Logan' up are really makng me want to check it out.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

The fliers should all be well out of his range, the blasters should be able to keep him at a distance, the powerhouses should be able to rattle his skull a bit. Jubilee was screwed from day 1 though

I don't get down w/ this "Wolverine is the strongest X-Men" BS.

 

[bryanss3]

Wolverine is one of my least favorite character on the X-Men i really wish they'd have him appear less in Uncanny.(though he hasn't been in the last 2 issues anyways lol)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Corp quit being Aristotle-light and just read the damn thing!

Onto the Egomaniac thing, they did eventually split up the world so that they all owned there own part. They basically teamed up for ONE big battle, f'ed wolvie up so much he just couldnt fight anymore and then had to worry about Thor at the end. Like the Sinister Six only with every single villian.

It's still incredibly ******ed and short-sighted to leave Wolverine alive. That's a bit of a plot hole.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I guess I'm so used to seeing villains do it, it didn't stick out so much. I was more outraged when Logan let Mystique live

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know why anyone went into that story thinking that Logan would actually kill Mystique...

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Even though the title of the arc was "Get Mystique", I didn't imagine him just letting her go.

 

[venom892]

I loved Get Mystique one of wolverine's best stories in years.Wish I could read Aaron's new Wolverine book but 3.99 is a bit much.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I figure I'll give Aaron an arc to win me over since he's bringing Garney along again.

And Logan leaving Mystique was worse for her anyway, since she's all self-loathing and suicidal but too cowardly to actually act on the latter impulse herself. Between "Get Mystique!" and the Iceman story in X-Men: Manifest Destiny, she's basically just looking for someone to kill her.

 

[venom892]

I was thinking of getting the X-men manifest destiny GN is it any good?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's hit-or-miss. Some issues have really nice short stories with good characters, some have terrible stories with boring characters. If you're a fan of the X-books in general, I'd say give it a try. You'll probably like more than you dislike, at least.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't like how she's toying w/ Bobby

 

[bryanss3]

I guess I'm so used to seeing villains do it, it didn't stick out so much. I was more outraged when Logan let Mystique live

well villains do things like that and capturing the hero and then telling them their master plan instead of just shooting them in the head, because if they did kill the hero the writers probably wouldn't have a story.

 

[bryanss3]

I didn't like a lot of the stories I read in Manifest Destiny

 

[jewmaican20]

I see no point in the story, nor anything remotely fresh about it.

Thank you. Everything is rehashed, and the "big secret" of what happened when Logan decided to sheathe the claws for good? I saw that coming a mile away...except for Mysterio being the one behind the ruse. Why him? I haven't seen him in ages; maybe Marvel had to renew the copyrights or something.

Love the art, though.

 

[drallig9399]

Thank you. Everything is rehashed, and the "big secret" of what happened when Logan decided to sheathe the claws for good? I saw that coming a mile away...except for Mysterio being the one behind the ruse. Why him? I haven't seen him in ages; maybe Marvel had to renew the copyrights or something.

Love the art, though.

Yeah, right. You saw him killing all of the other Xmen? Especially since every pic they showed in the previous issues was him fighting Omega Red or some other villain.

But you saw him kiling the Xmen. I def believe that.

Anyway I'm kind of torn about this arc now. Yeah it makes sense that to break Wolverine you have to do it mentally cause physically would be just annoying. However if someone made him kill his whole team I cant imagine he would just give up...that makes no sense to me. Wouldnt he want to avenge his fallen friends???

His choices just made him a BI. His teams deaths were all for nothing all because he couldnt use that as motivation to keep fighting. If the deaths of your team cant make you fight, then what can??

 

[Vanguard07]

It's pure guilt. The person he'd avenge his friends against is himself. He probably feels that Mysterio's illusions were no excuse for what he did, what with his enhanced senses and what not, he should have been more careful. One moment of carelessness led him to singlehandedly destroy his whole world.

the X-men are the only real family he's ever known. He's had other relationships and brief moments of happiness but none of them have ever lasted nearly as long or been nearly as solid as the relationship he has with the X-men.

I buy his reaction. I mean... with that much guilt he probably would have killed himself if he could have (damn pesky healing factor). Instead he just shut down.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

"If he could have"? Doesn't he still have the Muramasa sword?

 

[Vanguard07]

I thought he gave it to Cyclops. Who probably would have hidden it somewhere safe. Given that he then died, I would assume that the location of the Muramasa sword went to his grave with him.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Meh, if Wolverine really wanted to kill himself, he'd find it.

 

[Vanguard07]

I dont see how. I mean his sense of smell is excellent but it's not magical. He wouldnt be able to track down every place Cyke went and ferret out every potential hiding place.

Keep in mind Cyke is (these days) the kind of guy who's so good at keeping secrets that he's got a mysterious black box full of them in his mind that even telepaths of Emma Frost's calibur cant open.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Wolverine's the best there is at what he does, bub, and "what he does" changes to fit whatever situation he's in. So he'd find it. Because he's Wolverine and Wolverine can do anything. If he decided he was the best at flying, he'd be able to fly faster and more maneuverably than Superman, Thor, Ms. Marvel, and Iron Man combined.

 

[Vanguard07]

Heh. I meant realistically given his skills and abilities but whatever.

Either way, if you wanna talk from a writing point of view then he still couldnt find it because finding it (and consequently killing himself with it) would have pre-empted the old man logan storyline.

 

[foxx5]

Meh, if Wolverine really wanted to kill himself, he'd find it.

I don't think after killing the x-men he was up to a world conquest to find the muramesa blade, he just decided he wasn't going to be wolverine anymore and getting hit by the train was the symbol of that, the pain was to remind him of the decision he made.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh. I meant realistically given his skills and abilities but whatever.

Either way, if you wanna talk from a writing point of view then he still couldnt find it because finding it (and consequently killing himself with it) would have pre-empted the old man logan storyline.

Hence my support of that idea.