Wolverine VS. Sentinel clip

pt_photo_inc said:
no there is not. are you watching the clip? and i am very calm. i can debate with out getting irrate. but you see the head fall... spin... come to a stop... you can see the back ground and above area... he doesnt jump down, he doesnt fall with it... he is just there.

pt_photo_inc said:
so say something intelligent to back you your arguement... or shut up

No... that's not getting irate. :rolleyes:

We don't know the distance between the group and where the Sentinel is...

The Sentinel could be just behind the fog, or a little further behind it.
 
WorthyStevens4 said:
No. X2 was NOT perfect.

For example, how could Magneto and Mystique know the EXACT spot to where the Blackbird was going to crash? No explanation. To break it down for you, that's known as a FLAW.

Or coincidence, and who is to say Magneto didn't slowly guide the X-Jet toward him with his magnetic powers as it was falling--also, it's not as if they started out in such far off places.

Besides, the X-Men were trying to get back to the school, and Magneto had just told Stryker about Cerebro and knew that Xavier was abducted as well as knew of Stryker's plans to create a second Cerebro, etc. (via Mystique's knowledge). He knew he would need the X-Men's help in getting information and was most likely headed to the school or that direction in order to obtain it . . . Hence his ability to be in relatively the same spot (toward the school).
 
pt_photo_inc said:
all right i am getting to annoyed with the "let buy into anything" attitude... i apologize to the whole group... sincerely. i do.


i am calm, but passionate about this. this is suppose to be a great movie and it is turning up crappy thing after crappy thing. from the length to the sentinel in the DR, to the look of beast and colossus, to the fate of cyclops etc... i will calm down now. again i am sorry. everyone is free to have an opinion.. but when you make it, back it up a lil.... or know that it may be torn apart.

but not by me for now. cause i am going to chill a lil, and come back and see where we are at from there.

deal?

WTF!?
 
pt_photo_inc said:
all right i am getting to annoyed with the "let buy into anything" attitude... i apologize to the whole group... sincerely. i do.


i am calm, but passionate about this. this is suppose to be a great movie and it is turning up crappy thing after crappy thing. from the length to the sentinel in the DR, to the look of beast and colossus, to the fate of cyclops etc... i will calm down now. again i am sorry. everyone is free to have an opinion.. but when you make it, back it up a lil.... or know that it may be torn apart.

but not by me for now. cause i am going to chill a lil, and come back and see where we are at from there.

deal?

its like one of thier best characters IMO, was nightcrawler and he is gone... just really starting to hack me off. so again... sorry
 
BMM said:
Or coincidence, and who is to say Magneto didn't slowly guide the X-Jet toward him with his magnetic powers as it was falling--also, it's not as if they started out in such far off places.

Besides, the X-Men were trying to get back to the school, and Magneto had just told Stryker about Cerebro and knew that Xavier was abducted as well as knew of Stryker's plans to create a second Cerebro, etc. (via Mystique's knowledge). He knew he would need the X-Men's help in getting information and was most likely headed to the school or that direction in order to obtain it . . . Hence his ability to be in relatively the same spot.

It didn't look like he could guide it though. If he could, couldn't he just simply land the plane, instead of waiting for it to come to a near-crash?
 
pt_photo_inc said:
its like one of thier best characters IMO, was nightcrawler and he is gone... just really starting to hack me off. so again... sorry

Letting Nightcrawler go was a bad decision...finally, something we can agree on.
 
Sunstar said:
Agreed! :up:There is no comparing the two! One was made for a larger more public viewing(SR) while the other was made for Late Night(X3) which would obviously have less viewers! Thats probably why Fox gave Jay Leno a mediocre clip b/c they new it would reach a smaller audience! If they released a clip like this during American Idol for example then there would be reason to worry!

I'm all for defending X-men 3, but this is just a silly, made-up excuse. So they thought, give Leno some mediocre clip? That would show how much they care huh.
 
I kinda understand where you're coming from pt! I didn't think I'd be in a position where I'd have to make do with something/accept poor quality FX in this movie at all, what with their budget and the impressive FX witnessed in the trailer. I had high expectations in terms of the FX and while this is most likely still an unfinished and heavily edited clip, I'm finding myself having to begrudgingly buy into and accept the very average look of the Sentinel head instead of being blown away by how good it looks - in all honesty I don't think anyone here can REALLY say they're BLOWN AWAY with the look of the Sentinel!!
 
WorthyStevens4 said:
First of all, CALM DOWN.

It's not as if Wolverine appeared a second or two right after the Sentinel head fell. There's obviously a big enough time lapse in between the start of the Sentinel head falling, and when it stops rolling for Wolverine to make his way over to the group...

Actually, there isnt...Given that he is not visible at all as the head falls the only way it could happen is for him to sprint from the rubble in the bg exactly as the head hits the floor and in a direct line behind it to hide his approach (which is unlikely anyway considering it would take him as long to land behind the head as the head itself takes to fall), stop himself suddenly right behind the head as it turns then all too casually stroll out from behind like he'd been there all along...

So I'm sorry, but as it is the shot simply doesn't work.
 
so say something intelligent to back you your arguement... or shut up.

thank god someone can think.

this is the stupidest quote in this whole thread... congradulations

And then you say you are 'calm' ? lol ....

And you mention that the Phoenix appears in the game? Where did you read this? I have not heard anything stating that.

As far as Lady Deathstrike, it has been said that some scenes in the game are kind of like flashbacks. And Iceman can ice up whenever he wants... not sure why there needs to be a specific time when he can only do it.
 
WorthyStevens4 said:
It didn't look like he could guide it though. If he could, couldn't he just simply land the plane, instead of waiting for it to come to a near-crash?

If Magneto has the apparent ability to relocate the Golden Gate Bridge, he certainly has the ability to do whatever he wants with the X-Jet . . . such as the precision to seemlessly patch a hole in it while it is rapidly spiraling out of control and wildly descending through the air. As for why he didn’t safely land it, who knows—perhaps he didn’t see it early enough, or perhaps he simply didn’t want to (he is fairly sadistic).

Regardless of how Magneto chose to save the X-Jet, the aforementioned reasons still provide a logical explanation as to why he would be in relatively the same area as the X-Men.
 
Psionic Force said:
And then you say you are 'calm' ? lol ....

And you mention that the Phoenix appears in the game? Where did you read this? I have not heard anything stating that.

As far as Lady Deathstrike, it has been said that some scenes in the game are kind of like flashbacks. And Iceman can ice up whenever he wants... not sure why there needs to be a specific time when he can only do it.

He hasn't taken his prozac yet.

And "congradulations" to him:up::)
 
BMM said:
If Magneto has the apparent ability to relocate the Golden Gate Bridge, he certainly has the ability to do whatever he wants with the X-Jet . . . such as the precision to seemlessly patch a hole in it while it is rapidly spiraling out of control and wildly descending through the air. As for why he didn’t safely land it, who knows—perhaps he didn’t see it early enough, or perhaps he simply didn’t want to (he is fairly sadistic).

Regardless of how Magneto chose to save the X-Jet, the aforementioned reasons still provide a logical explanation as to why he would be in relatively the same area as the X-Men.

True enough.

But also, how did Magneto know when the Blackbird would pass on by though? I can't see him simply just waiting there for it to happen.
 
WorthyStevens4 said:
True enough.

But also, how did Magneto know when the Blackbird would pass on by though? I can't see him simply just waiting there for it to happen.

I don't think it was ever implied that he was just simply waiting for the X-Jet. . . he most likely just happened to come across it while he was on the move--simple coincidence, luck. It happens everyday. It's no different than running into someone you know at a store, so long as you two happen to be in relatively the same place at the same time.
 
Storm22 said:
I kinda understand where you're coming from pt! I didn't think I'd be in a position where I'd have to make do with something/accept poor quality FX in this movie at all, what with their budget and the impressive FX witnessed in the trailer. I had high expectations in terms of the FX and while this is most likely still an unfinished and heavily edited clip, I'm finding myself having to begrudgingly buy into and accept the very average look of the Sentinel head instead of being blown away by how good it looks - in all honesty I don't think anyone here can REALLY say they're BLOWN AWAY with the look of the Sentinel!!

i just watch movies like XXX and F4 and HULK and DAREDEVIL and ELEKTRA and thank god not CATWOMAN, and BATMAN FOREVER... and say PLEASE STOP! we are more intelligent then you give us credit for!
 
BMM said:
I don't think it was ever implied that he was just simply waiting for the X-Jet. . . he most likely just happened to come across it while he was on the move--simple coincidence, luck. It happens everyday. It's no different than running into someone you know at a store, so long as you two happen to be in relatively the same place at the same time.


In the middle of no where? That's some coincidence.........
 
Jan Irisi said:
In the middle of no where? That's some coincidence.........

I explained this a few posts up . . . it's on the same page even. They aren't in the middle of no where. They are fairly close to the School (as in Jean's quote, "We're coming up on the Mansion now," right before they are attacked, etc.)

It's not as if they are in a random field in the midwest somewhere.
 
BMM said:
I explained this a few posts up . . . it's on the same page even.

see that is why i got upset. you go all out explaining something just so someone can come on here and get and say you are wrong with out bringing any facts to back up thier opinion.
 
X2 was not perfect, in fact it wasn't very good at all. It focused too much, once again, on Wolverine. It had a chance to develope the other X-men, yet they chose not to. The fight scenes were lackluster. The overall storyline was kind of lame as well, since you never see the general public and how everything is effecting them. That gives the movie no sense of real urgency or scope. Ottman's score, as usual, was bland and uninspiring, sounding much like a poor man's Danny Elfman. Cyclops, the leader of the X-men was AWOL most of the movie. Basically, I felt it was just a rehash of the first movie. They should have upped the whole team aspect (you know, the X-men being a team and all...), and we should have seen them using their powers together in the finale.

OH yeah, the dialogue was too tongue-in-cheek as well. "Can you stop being a mutant?"
 
well ,imo ,the clip was kind of fun ,but disapointing.

i had some fun with what Jackman is doing as Wolverine ( true to his comic self) even if he overdoes it a little imo ,i like some of the ideas behind the "conflict" Wolverine/Storm , the teamwork with colossus , but the sequence as a whole has a cheap look..one can see that sort of setting in some low b Italian apocalyptic movie..the direction as a whole seem well generic..as for the sentinel, i'm wondering if that's some kind of joke..and i liked that idea of not seing it completely, but there :two lights and smoke?
a sentinel head which look like a toy?

i really hope that it is not an indicative factor of what i will see May 24..

if that's the case ,imo it will be a fun movie, nothing more..
 
I am still standing by what was said earlier... that what people saw on Leno was a choppy version given to Leno just for the purpose of Hugh being on the show. I think all the issues that people have with it, like Colossus' color and Wolverine looking like he is coming out of nowhere, will all be fixed by the time the movie is released ... I am not going to put down the entire movie or the director or whoever, just based on this short clip. It is not fair to those that are involved with making the movie.
 
again already it blows the 1st 2 movies out of the water. To think you guys wanted singer.
 

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