Wonder Woman - Review Thread [TAG SPOILERS]

[ludovica]

Welcome to the board!

Thank you!
Anyway, I promise you when I pay for a cinema ticket I'm willfully in a positive disposition to have a good time, this time I was flipped by my experience.
And to me the sounds and images spoke strongly one way, doesn't mean it is their absolute meaning or the only experience that matters.
But for me, superhero movies have the potential to be more, a lot more, and the writing should strive to be of the absolute highest order.

you know, perhaps we should ask him - his opinions/reviews on TDK Tri,iron man 1 2 3,MOS,Avengers 1&2,CAP civil war, CAP winter soldier,spider man series etc

because by using his method/logic(or should I say 'cinema sin' method) ,I can shred those films into pieces as well.

I imagine you meant that as a rhetorical question, but all the films you cite had an intellectual effort put into them, with varying degress of success obviously, but that absolutely makes them not fall apart in the writing, not even with my "method".
Some of those are not great films, and yeah, in most of them you could find inconsistencies, but they are accessible to adult and children alike without turning to saturday morning cartoon simplicity, one example being the glaring unplausible spatial linearity of the world created, so much for a "grand old adventure".
I think people are blinded by this being WW first real cinema outing, so, well, let's say I wanted a lot hell more.

Believe me or not, I'm happy people enjoy their go at the cinema, but in my view the bar is being lowered dangerously. Anyway, saying my piece relieved me a bit.

 

[Pickleweasel]

Movie was alright. I had more issues with the beginning than the end. I was pleasantly surprised after hearing about how funny the movie was that the humor wasn't forced at all.

Chris and Gal both gave really good performances which is obviously one of the most important things. I liked Ares but wanted to see more of him.

I'll have to watch it again but I highly doubt I'm putting it above MOS for best DCEU movie.

 

[Nigelp520]

Just finished watching Wonder Woman and I give it a 9 out of 10. 2nd best DCEU movie after Man of Steel and the so far the best comicbook movie of the year and the best female superhero movie ever. I knew Gal Gadot was a great choice for Wonder Woman when people were *****ing she doesnt have big thighs or breast but she is beautiful and have a nice accent which matters most. She was charming and funny and had great chemistry with Chris Pine as Steve Trevor. Great cast, Great action, great inspirational scenes and fits well into the DCEU Universe. Cant Wait for Wonder Woman 2 and Justice League



Sameer, Charlie, and Chief were great also. I loved how they all had flaws and experinced racism. Sameer dream to be an actor but he isn't the right color and the chief pointing to Steve saying his people took his land.

 

[rickfox]

I can be quite forgiving of a movie just being stupid, but the story got so unfathomably on my nerves, I had to vent.
Again, beware, I'm gonna call the FILM offensively stupid, not anyone liking it, but to me it felt like a barrage of almost Martha-level moments.
Maybe I was in a completely wrong mindset about it, go figure, but I'm totally baffled by the general reception: this time I'm finding myself unable to reconcile what I saw with a simple "you like what you like".
Yeah, sure, that's undisputable and unquestionable, no contest, but I felt my intelligence actively assaulted (ok, I'm being a bit dramatic), so much so, I do not believe I am the only one feeling this way...
Max every 5 minutes the film made my eyes roll hard or made me borderline angry at the ideas and subtexts on screen: and here comes my long ass list of aggravations. See, I told ya to beware.
Some could be viewed as nitpicks by some, I understand, but some definitely aren't. And this is just the tip.........



I imagine you meant that as a rhetorical question, but all the films you cite had an intellectual effort put into them, with varying degress of success obviously, but that absolutely makes them not fall apart in the writing, not even with my "method".
Some of those are not great films, and yeah, in most of them you could find inconsistencies, but they are accessible to adult and children alike without turning to saturday morning cartoon simplicity, one example being the glaring unplausible spatial linearity of the world created, so much for a "grand old adventure".
I think people are blinded by this being WW first real cinema outing, so, well, let's say I wanted a lot hell more.

Believe me or not, I'm happy people enjoy their go at the cinema, but in my view the bar is being lowered dangerously. Anyway, saying my piece relieved me a bit.

yeah, right

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=24357171&postcount=188

plus: a bomb in human belly can knock out every one in sight within MCU,but not the joker,which just few inches away from his victim.----- those few examples is just tip of an iceberg.

so should people declare their intelligence got actively assaulted by such offensively stupid plot?


http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=24357057&postcount=177

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=24353599&postcount=158

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=24355235&postcount=162

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=24355279&postcount=163

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...ly-of-captain-america-civil-war/#61f9b3dfb0ff


The Joker Problem

.....the central antagonist of Captain America: Civil Warhas what I’m going to call a Joker Problem.

This goes back to The Dark Knight, Christopher Nolan’s second Batman film. It’s a great movie, and Heath Ledger puts in a great performance. I loved his take on the iconic villain.
And yet, the Joker in that film was always way too good at everything. His enormously elaborate plans go off without a hitch. Everyone does exactly what he expects they’ll do.

be aware--- Joker is not alone,he posses some underworld's human intelligence resource(pay off cops) etc (the mobs were with him for a while until..), but even with those elements, the story is still not very.... what was the word you used? right , intellectual

Captain America: Civil War has the exact same problem with its bad guy. ...... his plans go off without a hitch, too perfectly, and if you step back for a moment and realize that, it sort of mucks up the rest of the movie. Everything falls into place at exactly the right time, the right place. All the characters put themselves in just the right position for everything to go down the way the bad guy wants it to go down. It’s too many coincidences colliding and strains plausibility.

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Baron Zemo(he is alone)'s plan and his logical thinking---which is the center core of the plot, what a joke



so please, tell us what is your score for TDK and Cap ,civil war ? lower than what WW get?--- which is only 4 out of 10

 

[ludovica]

Baron Zemo(he is alone)'s plan and his logical thinking---which is the center core of the plot, what a joke



so please, tell us what is your score for TDK and Cap ,civil war ? lower than what WW get?--- which is only 4 out of 10

Wait a sec, this is the WW review thread, so let's take this eventually elsewhere, agree?
But quickly, Civil War is a 10 and TDK a 9, but you should anyway not feel attacked by my opinion.

 

[Binker]

I saw Wonder Woman. It was very good, good action, funny, and I did get teary eyed a bit bc I can be emotional hehe

 

[Leenie]

Just got back home from seeing it. Easily the best DC film since The Dark Knight. Granted, I don't think that's a very high bar at all, but my point still stands.

I'm not into giving number/letter/star ratings, but I will say this: I don't think the movie was "amazing." I thought it was "very good." I wouldn't put it on my "Top 10 Favorites" list, but I would rank it among the likes of Captain America: The First Avenger (and I quite adore that movie, so ... All of this is a good thing!).

There are a couple of things in the movie that I would have liked to see more of (won't go into spoilers about that right now though), which is really my only complaint about the movie. I think a few things here and there being added, extended, or changed JUST a tad would have elevated it for me. All in all, it's a very solid film that I really can't complain about too much! After years of complaining about not having one, we finally have a Wonder Woman movie ... And it's really good!

Gal Gadot is simply charming as Wonder Woman, too. The movie makes it very easy to root for her. It was to the point where this movie almost came across as an apology for Man of Steel, as Wonder Woman served as a much better hero full of optimism, hope, charm, and actual concern for humans caught in the middle of these wars and battles than Henry Cavil's Superman could ever be at this point in time. I believed Wonder Woman when she was heartbroken about the innocent lives taken in war. Gal Gadot did a wonderful job conveying those emotions.

My favorite scene of the entire film was [BLACKOUT]Wonder Woman saving everyone in "No Man's Land," which led to her grand costume reveal in the movie.[/BLACKOUT] That action scene was great! And speaking of action scenes, [BLACKOUT]I also very much enjoyed the Amazons vs the Germans in the first act[/BLACKOUT]. Very cool stuff.

Spoiler

I got worried near the end of the film, during WW's fight against Aries. I thought that the whole "You can't just pin it on one man" message after she killed Ludenorff was quite poignant, and I would have been completely satisfied with her just saving everyone sans the big CGI battle.

HOWEVER, by the end of that battle, I was relieved and proven wrong. I think that Patty Jenkins handled this "big boss final battle CGI spectacle" stuff very well, as she incorporated actual emotions and drama into it.

 

[-Arya-]

Just got back home from seeing it. Easily the best DC film since The Dark Knight. Granted, I don't think that's a very high bar at all, but my point still stands.

I'm not into giving number/letter/star ratings, but I will say this: I don't think the movie was "amazing." I thought it was "very good." I wouldn't put it on my "Top 10 Favorites" list, but I would rank it among the likes of Captain America: The First Avenger (and I quite adore that movie, so ... All of this is a good thing!).

There are a couple of things in the movie that I would have liked to see more of (won't go into spoilers about that right now though), which is really my only complaint about the movie. I think a few things here and there being added, extended, or changed JUST a tad would have elevated it for me. All in all, it's a very solid film that I really can't complain about too much! After years of complaining about not having one, we finally have a Wonder Woman movie ... And it's really good!

Gal Gadot is simply charming as Wonder Woman, too. The movie makes it very easy to root for her. It was to the point where this movie almost came across as an apology for Man of Steel, as Wonder Woman served as a much better hero full of optimism, hope, charm, and actual concern for humans caught in the middle of these wars and battles than Henry Cavil's Superman could ever be at this point in time. I believed Wonder Woman when she was heartbroken about the innocent lives taken in war. Gal Gadot did a wonderful job conveying those emotions.

My favorite scene of the entire film was [BLACKOUT]Wonder Woman saving everyone in "No Man's Land," which led to her grand costume reveal in the movie.[/BLACKOUT] That action scene was great! And speaking of action scenes, [BLACKOUT]I also very much enjoyed the Amazons vs the Germans in the first act[/BLACKOUT]. Very cool stuff.

Spoiler

I got worried near the end of the film, during WW's fight against Aries. I thought that the whole "You can't just pin it on one man" message after she killed Ludenorff was quite poignant, and I would have been completely satisfied with her just saving everyone sans the big CGI battle.

HOWEVER, by the end of that battle, I was relieved and proven wrong. I think that Patty Jenkins handled this "big boss final battle CGI spectacle" stuff very well, as she incorporated actual emotions and drama into it.

Awesome review. What did you think of Dark Knight Rises. Is WW better?

 

[rickfox]

Wait a sec, this is the WW review thread, so let's take this eventually elsewhere, agree?
But quickly, Civil War is a 10 and TDK a 9, but you should anyway not feel attacked by my opinion.

let make it clear

1,I did not feel attacked by your opinion

2,sometimes when I see double standard & hypocrisy, I will use facts to expose them,like I just did

3, just in case , I never read one chapter of DC,Mavel comic books, never watch an episode of DC cartoon,watched a few episodes of marvel cartoon, never watched any episode of dc or marvel tv drama, never purchase any dc or marvel toys or merchandise

 

[Leenie]

Awesome review. What did you think of Dark Knight Rises. Is WW better?

Thank you!

I like The Dark Knight Rises, but I find the movie to be very flawed.

I think that Wonder Woman is the better movie.

 

[-Arya-]

Thank you!

I like The Dark Knight Rises, but I find the movie to be very flawed.

I think that Wonder Woman is the better movie.

The fact that a lot of people are putting this film over Rises pleases me.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

what I posted on my FB-

My thoughts on Wonder Woman:

DC didn't screw the pooch and it's pretty good. The first two acts were amazing and the No Man's Land set piece was brilliant but the 3rd act dragged on and was poorly paced.

Its not as amazing as Rotten Tomatoes says it is a step in the right direction for DC. id give it a 7.5/10.

 

[StormC]

I might go more in depth on my second viewing, but: wow. The No Man's Land scene was worth the price of admission alone. I got chills when

Spoiler

Diana took her robe off and began to climb the ladder in her costume.

I'm wrestling with whether or not I loved it more than TDKR. That movie took a few viewings to totally click with me, but this blew me away on the first go. Very much reminded me of Iron Man in that while it doesn't do anything especially groundbreaking on a narrative level, it assembles all the important pieces in such a satisfying package that you can't just help but grin and love it.

The slow-mo got excessive at times, and the beginning of the movie was a little slow, and didn't really pick up until

Spoiler

Steve crashes and the Germans arrive.

I use letter grades, and I'm not sure if this is a B+ or A-. But since I'm coming off such a high, I gave it a 9 in the poll.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Just saw it, very solid movie. Gonna give it a 7 mainly because of weakish villains, lathargic in some areas, and few awkward moments on some cuts. But overall, fun movie with a lot of heart and positive feel.

 

[Consona]

Lastly, the lasso was by far and away the coolest weapon which only goes to show that Wonder Woman needs a sword & shield like a fish needs a bicycle.

Wonder Woman didn't blow me away but I enjoyed it.

Thanks for writing my summary of the film.

Yet Man of Steel and Batman v Superman UE totally blew me away (while I can agree BvS is in some aspects rather weird film, MoS is just pure awesomeness, the best post-Nolan CBM hands down, for me, of course) so I cannot agree with those saying WW is the best DCEU film no problem.


• Gal and Chris were the best things about this film.
And I liked the supporting cast a lot too, actually, especially the characters of Steve's band, Etta, Dr. Maru and Hippolyta.
Ares was miscast and miss-designed. A greek god of war with a fluffy moustache? Really?
• Story was good, but that's that. Screenplay would benefit from some (in some places a lot more) additional work for sure.
• Action was good, some moments great, some slo-mo was too much, but generally far from Snyder's utterly fantastic MoS stuff. Those action sequences are still the best in CBM genre by far IMO.
• Soundtrack was edit: just listened to it, it's very good.
• I really liked the philosophical aspect of [BLACKOUT]you have to decide and act, no superhero can do it for you[/BLACKOUT]
• I liked the tone of the film and humor was very natural and funny, not some stupid forced "funny" dialogues and one-liners à la GotG Vol 2 (yea, sorry, that was the worst usage of "humor" in any CBM I've seen).

• So, again, I enjoyed it but was not blown away by any means. ...And here comes the heresy!!! t: Even though this film was better, I enjoyed Suicide Squad much more.

Regarding her power level

Spoiler

I thought it was really uneven. Why does she need sword or shield when she can take tower falling at her no problem. I get she needs weapons when fighting something like Doomsday, but bunch of human soldiers?
They are did not show any clues to spot her power progress or if it's even a thing or what...

Regarding the gas

Spoiler

I thought they released that brutal destructive gas at the end, but everything hit by it was "just killed" and Steve just coughed when he got near. That was really a WTF moment.

 

[Frodo]

Great film. 9 out of 10. Gal Gadot/ Wonder Woman, is the future of the DCU ,not Ben Affleck or Henry Cavill as far as i'm concerned.

 

[Leenie]

Great film. 9 out of 10. Gal Gadot/ Wonder Woman, is the future of the DCU ,not Ben Affleck or Henry Cavill as far as i'm concerned.

The advertising/marketing for the Justice League movie, I think, will start shifting its attention on Wonder Woman after this weekend.

As it should, because she's THE hero of the DCEU at this point.

 

[MurkeNyou]

Believe the hype, solid film, good pacing, throws some good twist and turns. gal is stunning, charming, and there has to be something wrong with you if you think she doesn't look the part.

8.5/10

 

[Frodo]

Gal was amazing. Seeing Pine's charm and humor really makes me hope we see him as Captain Kirk again just one more time. The whole cast was really good as well.

 

[StormC]

One other complaint I had now that I've had time to digest a bit (I'll just spoiler tag it to be safe but it's pretty minor):

Spoiler

I didn't like that Diana's accidental use of her powers were right before Steve crash landed. Seems like an awful big coincidence, even narratively speaking, all that crazy stuff happening to Diana right then and there. Would have been better if she had time to go over it before Steve crashed.

 

[Leenie]

One other complaint I had now that I've had time to digest a bit (I'll just spoiler tag it to be safe but it's pretty minor):

Spoiler

I didn't like that Diana's accidental use of her powers were right before Steve crash landed. Seems like an awful big coincidence, even narratively speaking, all that crazy stuff happening to Diana right then and there. Would have been better if she had time to go over it before Steve crashed.

Completely agreed.

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This is a prime example of some of the small stuff I briefly mentioned in my review; the stuff I would have changed or added to. Had we gotten a scene of her thinking about what had happened before Trevor arrived, I think the story would have flowed better and it would have elevated it a bit more for me, personally.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

The advertising/marketing for the Justice League movie, I think, will start shifting its attention on Wonder Woman after this weekend.

As it should, because she's THE hero of the DCEU at this point.

https://***********/DanCasey/status/869648357416779776/photo/1

 

[Willi Berg]

One other complaint I had now that I've had time to digest a bit (I'll just spoiler tag it to be safe but it's pretty minor):

Spoiler

I didn't like that Diana's accidental use of her powers were right before Steve crash landed. Seems like an awful big coincidence, even narratively speaking, all that crazy stuff happening to Diana right then and there. Would have been better if she had time to go over it before Steve crashed.

I think Patty and co. were trying to make a point about Diana fulfilling her destiny, that she has to leave the island to fight Ares and help the world, that the Amazons can't stay insulated, that WW has to be the [BLACKOUT]godkiller[/BLACKOUT].

It does all happen quickly though. Which is why I would've liked just a little bit more about Diana growing up on the island and her relationships with the other Amazons.

 

[Ardyns]

Thanks for writing my summary of the film.

Yet Man of Steel and Batman v Superman UE totally blew me away (while I can agree BvS is in some aspects rather weird film, MoS is just pure awesomeness, the best post-Nolan CBM hands down, for me, of course) so I cannot agree with those saying WW is the best DCEU film no problem.


• Gal and Chris were the best things about this film.
And I liked the supporting cast a lot too, actually, especially the characters of Steve's band, Etta, Dr. Maru and Hippolyta.
Ares was miscast and miss-designed. A greek god of war with a fluffy moustache? Really?
• Story was good, but that's that. Screenplay would benefit from some (in some places a lot more) additional work for sure.
• Action was good, some moments great, some slo-mo was too much, but generally far from Snyder's utterly fantastic MoS stuff. Those action sequences are still the best in CBM genre by far IMO.
• Soundtrack was so-so.
• I really liked the philosophical aspect of [BLACKOUT]you have to decide and act, no superhero can do it for you[/BLACKOUT]
• I liked the tone of the film and humor was very natural and funny, not some stupid forced "funny" dialogues and one-liners à la GotG Vol 2 (yea, sorry, that was the worst usage of "humor" in any CBM I've seen).

• So, again, I enjoyed it but was not blown away by any means. ...And here comes the heresy!!! t: Even though this film was better, I enjoyed Suicide Squad much more.

Regarding her power level

Spoiler

I thought it was really uneven. Why does she need sword or shield when she can take tower falling at her no problem. I get she needs weapons when fighting something like Doomsday, but bunch of human soldiers?
They are did not show any clues to spot her power progress or if it's even a thing or what...

Regarding the gas

Spoiler

I thought they released that brutal destructive gas at the end, but everything hit by it was "just killed" and Steve just coughed when he got near. That was really a WTF moment.

I agree with a lot of your points. I'd say MOS and BvS felt as a slightly more tighter production compared to Wonder woman.

 

[The Caped Knight]

The best way to describes is, take certain aspects from (Superman: The Movie, Xena: The Warrior Princess and Captain America: The First Avenger) and you have Wonder Woman.

The film is primarily focused on Diana's origin as it should be. The development from being native to becoming more knowledgeable was great to see.

Chris & Gal have an amazing on screen chemistry as Steve & Diana, I truly loved how their romance wasn't forced but grew out of a genuine love for each other over time.

the comedy wasn't over the top it was natural.

The action sequences were visually stunning, "No Man's Land" was the best sequence with the amazons vs Germany

The music was beautiful and worked well with the piece.

My only issue is the third act with the Villains was too "Doomsday" esc and ares wasn't developed well and he just served as the climatic battle ending CGI feast.

outside of that i give this 8.5/10