World X-Men and Homosexuality: The Connection

[spark627]

hey all

im joining this discussion late in the game, but it seems interesting.

i have always felt the x-men were metaphors for gay people. i related to them way before i realized i was gay lol

i always found myself connected with rogue (her struggle with being proud of being a mutant but being held back bc of it), for a long time i was comfortable as gay man but i wasnt out, due to fear. bc of fear i didnt date anyone or talk about. luckily i got that past that about 5 years ago...anyway, cool discussion.

-newaveboy87, your a tori amos fan??? (based on sig quote) she is my life hehe

 

[newwaveboy87]

i heart Tori Amos!

 

[spark627]

i heart Tori Amos!

haha awesome, yea ive loved her since 98. have you seen her live? im pretty dorky, ive seen her 21 times...

 

[newwaveboy87]

21 times!?
you have no life...

actually i've only been to No Doubt concerts. but in the process i've seen pre-superstardom Weezer, The Living End, The Faint, and blink-182.
strangely...blink-182 was the one that sucked the most live. and i was at their last concert before the break-up. good times, they actually put on a decent show that time.

 

[spark627]

21 times!?
you have no life...

lol actually, i have a crazy life, i just make sure to fit tori into it. def check her out in 2007, you wont be disapointed

 

[newwaveboy87]

at least you laughed at that.
good to know my sense of humor isn't lost on you.

i rarely go to concerts...that's the thing of not having a car.

 

[newwaveboy87]

 

[littyx]

^ I Have that shirt!

 

[newwaveboy87]

i think it's so freaking funny.

 

[Mr. Socko]

The X-Men are metaphors for homosexuals, but not much, and nor were they created that way.

Homosexuals face bigotry and discrimination but no where near as much the X-Men do. Magneto has said several times that a war between mutant and mankind is coming. A war between homosexuals and heterosexuals has not and never will take place. Homosexuals are only discriminated against a little. Mutants are discriminated against ALOT. There are so many other groups of people that can relate to the X-Men more then homosexuals. But gay people who are fans just want to take it and make it their own. When did this bit even start? When Bryan Singer started directing?

Stan Lee did not create The X-Men as a metaphor for homosexuals, although many like to believe so.

 

[newwaveboy87]

Mr Socko...haven't i already explained the purpose of this thread to you once before? oh well..maybe you'll read it this time:

well...if you look at the time frame they were around in there's several different influences that created them. The Civil Rights movement and the McCarthyism of the 50s are definitely big influences on the nature of the books.


and why does everyone point out that the X-Men is an allegory for all minorities? we understand that. this thread was designed for ONE of those minority groups. JUST THE ONE. no need to remind us that it serves other purposes, we're just talking about this one in here.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Whats wrong? My reply was just about the topic at hand.

And back to it. If mutants were huge metaphors for homosexuals then it really would be rather boring simply because homosexuals are not at war with the world.

A mutant would walk outside and say "some people don't like us, oh well". That would be all, there'd be nothing huge going on.

Stryker devoted his life to eradicating mutants. Would anyone do that to homosexuals? No.

 

[squeekness]

Stryker devoted his life to eradicating mutants. Would anyone do that to homosexuals? No.

I know that there have been several money driven campaigns by bible thumpers in the south to do just that. First it was the blacks, now it's the gays. If they could build the camps, believe me, a few of them would.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Ok, I take that part back. Hitler also tried it along with Jews too.

Then there's Senator Kelly wanting to pass a bill that segregates mutants and humans. I'm not sure but I don't think America was ever stupid enough to try something like that with hetero and homosexuals.

 

[newwaveboy87]

it's called The Defense of Marriage Act

 

[squeekness]

That's how it starts. A little piece of legislation that earmarks a certain group as being less privildged than everyone else. First one law then another then another until who knows where it stops.

 

[Blackpanther22]

http://today.reuters.com/News/CrisesArticle.aspx?storyId=L0393312

YUK! How can people be so damn intolerant. I'm ashamed of being romanian.

 

[newwaveboy87]

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I AM THE KING OF ANOTHER THREAD!

 

[Pyrox]

How'd I get to be #3?

 

[newwaveboy87]

when i was "interviewing" you that one night.

 

[Pyrox]

Ah right, I remember that

 

[newwaveboy87]

yes, your being vague shot up your post count in this thread

 

[Pyrox]

Yay for vagueness!

 

[squeekness]

http://today.reuters.com/News/CrisesArticle.aspx?storyId=L0393312

YUK! How can people be so damn intolerant. I'm ashamed of being romanian.

Some protesters, including Orthodox nuns and a priest, carried crosses and chanted "Romania does not need you". Some protesters clashed with police, who fired tear gas and used batons to hold them at bay. They detained 51 people. "Romania has problems with accepting any minorities," Octav Popescu, one of the parade organisers told Realitatea TV.

And they call themselves Christians? Jesus would be weeping. This is not what being a Christian is all about but so many people out there just don't get it.

 

[bengan]

Yea I own u all!! And this is now more of a spamingthread then a x-men=gays thread.....and I LIKE IT!!! hehe.

Oh, this was news to me. A friend to me told med thet gaypeople(or in his country single men) cant adopt children. And that made mes o mad. Here in Sweden homosexuals can adopt children(and get married), but I thought that that was the case in many countries. But I guess thats not the case and that made me sooo ANGRY!!