X-Men - Part 5

[Panthro]

LOLs.

Verily

 

[JewishHobbit]

I have been looking forward to this, but that art just might ruin some of my enjoyment of the story. Ugh.

 

[blalex620]

What book and issue was that from?

 

[runawayboulder]

The next issue of All New X-Men.

 

[blalex620]

Definitely will be picking that up then, if not for just that scene alone lol

 

[Mad Ones]

I can't wait! Just one more reason I like Teen Jean: awkward situations.

The art is passable, but I liked the filler artist they had on an earlier issue.

 

[blalex620]

Since I've never read anything with Jean in it before it's interesting to see teen Jean. She's exactly how I would imagine a teenager who just developed telepathic abilities would act. Making people do what you want them to do and reading everyone's mind even though you're told not to.

On a side note, I've noticed that none of the X-Men who have kids actually act like parents lol. Cyclops has three different children in 616 right now and I swear it's like they don't exist to him accept Cable. Then for a while Wolverine hated Daken, I'm surprised he acts fatherly towards X-23. Jubilee's the most parental I've ever seen and she's only had a baby for 3 issues lol.

 

[Havok83]

Since I've never read anything with Jean in it before it's interesting to see teen Jean. She's exactly how I would imagine a teenager who just developed telepathic abilities would act. Making people do what you want them to do and reading everyone's mind even though you're told not to.

On a side note, I've noticed that none of the X-Men who have kids actually act like parents lol. Cyclops has three different children in 616 right now and I swear it's like they don't exist to him accept Cable. Then for a while Wolverine hated Daken, I'm surprised he acts fatherly towards X-23. Jubilee's the most parental I've ever seen and she's only had a baby for 3 issues lol.

Scott only has 1 child, Cable, and that's why he is closest to him. He's the only child he conceived and the only one he raised. Rachel and Nate are alternate reality creations and he shouldn't have to claim them. Both were grown when he met them and he's only a few years older than them. Its not surprising he wouldn't be too fatherly

As far as X-men acting like parents. Cable with Hope is probably one of the better examples.

 

[blalex620]

Yeah I did forget to mention Cable. He's the most fatherly out of all X-Men. And I'll give you X-Man but Scott has claimed Rachel as his daughter before so I still think it's kind of weird. And Rachel wasn't an adult when she was first introduced was she?

 

[runawayboulder]

Regular Jean > Teen Jean

 

[Havok83]

Yeah I did forget to mention Cable. He's the most fatherly out of all X-Men. And I'll give you X-Man but Scott has claimed Rachel as his daughter before so I still think it's kind of weird. And Rachel wasn't an adult when she was first introduced was she?

Rachel was in her early 20s when we first met her. Scott was probably like 24/25 at the time. When Jean first saw Rachel, she noted that Rachel was the same age as her, which is one of the reasons why she had the bad reaction she did

 

[Mad Ones]

Regular Jean > Teen Jean

Absolutely, and I still eagerly await regular Jean's return. At least Teen Jean is something. I honestly do think Bendis has put thought into her character and is actually doing some interesting things.

 

[runawayboulder]

"At least Teen Jean is something" is the only reaction Marvel cares about.

 

[Mad Ones]

It's been a very long time since I've seen Jean get any character development. So I'll take what I can get.

 

[blalex620]

Rachel was in her early 20s when we first met her. Scott was probably like 24/25 at the time. When Jean first saw Rachel, she noted that Rachel was the same age as her, which is one of the reasons why she had the bad reaction she did

Ohhh okay I didn't know well then I guess I can understand. Still I think if Cykes is gonna call her his daughter he should act like it.

I just recently read that Marvel isn't planning on keeping Jean dead they're just waiting for the right time and way to bring her back. Honestly I think with the way Cyclops is going and with him and Emma having broken up and not planning on getting back together this may be Marvel's chance to bring her back. It would also be a great way to shock Cyclops back to his senses and go back to who he was.

 

[Havok83]

Ohhh okay I didn't know well then I guess I can understand. Still I think if Cykes is gonna call her his daughter he should act like it.

I just recently read that Marvel isn't planning on keeping Jean dead they're just waiting for the right time and way to bring her back. Honestly I think with the way Cyclops is going and with him and Emma having broken up and not planning on getting back together this may be Marvel's chance to bring her back. It would also be a great way to shock Cyclops back to his senses and go back to who he was.

This year marks the 50th anniversary of the X-men and of course Jean's debut. This fall during the crossover event would be the perfect time to make it happen but I wouldn't hold my breath

What I see happening though is Teen Jean aging somehow and effectively replacing the old Jean. They'll probably give her, her old memories so that the two are merged as one character,.

 

[blalex620]

This year marks the 50th anniversary of the X-men and of course Jean's debut. This fall during the crossover event would be the perfect time to make it happen but I wouldn't hold my breath

What I see happening though is Teen Jean aging somehow and effectively replacing the old Jean. They'll probably give her, her old memories so that the two are merged as one character,.

I don't think/hope they do that. For one it would pretty much destroy the space time continuum. I mean if old Jean doesn't go back to the past pretty much nothing that happens could then happen because she was never there to make it happen. It would just be a clusterf*** if they tried to do that imo.

 

[Havok83]

I don't think/hope they do that. For one it would pretty much destroy the space time continuum. I mean if old Jean doesn't go back to the past pretty much nothing that happens could then happen because she was never there to make it happen. It would just be a clusterf*** if they tried to do that imo.

Not really. The O5 were never supposed to come to this timeline. All this stuff that they've experienced and learned, never should have happened and they've been here for weeks now. If the space time continuum was going to be destroyed, it would have already happened. All that's happened is that a new timeline has been created from where it diverged when they were brought to the future. These teens are not 616. They are from whatever designation Marvel will assign them

 

[BoredGuy]

yeah so the O5 being here didn't destroy the 616 reality

It just most likely created some hellish alternate reality out of their timeline

so yeah, totally consequence free time-hopping

 

[javi1024]

This year marks the 50th anniversary of the X-men and of course Jean's debut. This fall during the crossover event would be the perfect time to make it happen but I wouldn't hold my breath

What I see happening though is Teen Jean aging somehow and effectively replacing the old Jean. They'll probably give her, her old memories so that the two are merged as one character,.

I'm gonna put my thoughts in spoilers just in case but

Spoiler

I heard it's been rumored/spoiled that in Battle of the Atom [BLACKOUT]one of the O5 X-Men is going to die[/BLACKOUT]. What if it was young Jean and they used that to spark real Jean's return. I don't necessarily want to see it play out that way, but it seems like that would be the direction they would go seeing as how Jean has pretty much been the central focus of All-New.

 

[blalex620]

yeah so the O5 being here didn't destroy the 616 reality

It just most likely created some hellish alternate reality out of their timeline

so yeah, totally consequence free time-hopping

That's just lazy writing to me if they did that. They can't throw future plot devices out there by having Beast say he doesnt know how this will affect thi gs and then throw it away by having consequence free time hoping. It'll especially be bad since they just did an event that used time hopping and shown that the effects aren't always good.

 

[Havok83]

the premise behind them being here is stupid to begin with bc all these X-men in the present day have enough experience with time travel to know that the effects of this only ends up creating a new timeline. Present day is no longer these O5's future. They never should have been allowed to stay and Beast yanking young Scott to change older Scott has got to be about the dumbest plan he's had in his 50 year history. I really dont understand what he thought would actually happen and this was an utter failure if ever there was one.

 

[blalex620]

the premise behind them being here is stupid to begin with bc all these X-men in the present day have enough experience with time travel to know that the effects of this only end up creating a new timeline. Present day is no longer these O5's future. They never should have been allowed to stay and Beast yanking young Scott to change older Scott has got to be about the dumbest plan he's had in his 50 year history. I really dont understand what he thought would actually happen and this was an utter failure if ever there was one.

I disagree. First I personally think it was a good idea to bring them back because seeing the O5 might have actually convinced him. Of course they couldn't make it that easy though. Honestly they might be doing this to test to see if they should bring Jean back. Who knows. But I don't think it was/is a dumb plan. Secondly, if they stick with Jean's plan and Hank sends them back to the exact moment he took them from and Jean wipes their memory it could still continue to the present timeline without creating a divergent one.

 

[BoredGuy]

yeah but if the plot of Battle of the Atom is the future X-Men saying "enough's enough, time to send them back" and our Cyclops still being all "whateva, i'll do what I want!", then Beast needs to just admit defeat and send them back.... which will be more difficult now that Angel has split up the O5 to hang out with the s&m gang in Uncanny

 

[runawayboulder]

I'm gonna put my thoughts in spoilers just in case but

Spoiler

I heard it's been rumored/spoiled that in Battle of the Atom [BLACKOUT]one of the O5 X-Men is going to die[/BLACKOUT]. What if it was young Jean and they used that to spark real Jean's return. I don't necessarily want to see it play out that way, but it seems like that would be the direction they would go seeing as how Jean has pretty much been the central focus of All-New.

[BLACKOUT]With time travel in any format, not just comics, I always figured that if a person goes from the past to the present and dies...they just fade from existence. If they die in what's considered their present timeline, then that's a whole other ball of wax. Anyway, does the death have any major impact outside of it being either Teen Scott or Teen Jean? I wouldn't care less if any of the other 3 bit it.[/BLACKOUT]