X3 vs Hulk

[co2]

At least something seemed at stake in X3. In Hulk you barely have any reason to care about the characters. You just go from one pointless scene to another.

The only reason you care anything about the X-characters is because of the first 2 films. It had nothing to do with X3. Compared side by side, Hulk had characterization miles beyond X3.

 

[CConn]

At least something seemed at stake in X3. In Hulk you barely have any reason to care about the characters. You just go from one pointless scene to another.

and X3 is never boring. It's one cool battle scene after the next. Hulk has dozens of dull scenes that go absolutley nowhere. It's really hard to sit through.

That's my major problem with X3 exactly. All it was was battle scenes, "cool" scenes, with no (or at least few) scenes that actually give the plot and characters depth and make it all interesting. Make me care about it all.

I must agree with what co2 said; everything good about X3 is drawn from the first two movies. The care we have for the characters, the tying up of (several) character arcs within the trilogy. Those were the only things that made X3 watchable to me, and those things were all satisfying simply because of X1 and 2.

 

[juggster-rules]

elektra was the worst out of all the marvel movies so far.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

The only reason you care anything about the X-characters is because of the first 2 films. It had nothing to do with X3. Compared side by side, Hulk had characterization miles beyond X3.

Actually I think this is false, the only reason we care about these characters is becase they are X-men. X1 is as far from resembling their comic book counterparts as can be, and X2 (While being a much better moive) isn't too much better (Although they seemed to pretty much nail Nightcrawler on the ****ing head, just think if that much thought had gone into Cyclops, or Storm).

I agree 100 percent X3 is completely dependent on X1, and 2, I argue that this makes the franchise better, at the expense of X1, and X3.

X1 is the boring beginning to any book, when all the characters are being introduced, and their isn't even any rising action yet, they get 1 minor scuffle to liven the first Act up, but besides that, nothing major really happens, X2 (the reason it is head and shoulders knees and toes knees and toes above the others) is because that is when all the rising action takes place, that is when the main plot in the saga is put in motion (Humans trying to eliminate Mutants) and that is when all the characters begin to get fleshed out (Except Cyclops, and Storm). X3 is the grand finale, when the rising action hits it's climax. There isn't much more we need to know about these character (Except Cyclops and Storm, which is why their is so much Storm in X3), or the plot, except the little nuance the enemy puts on our heros, much like the death star being fully operation, yes, the evil humans have made a cure, and Magneto has the Phenoix (By no means on the same level as ROTJ though). So what do we get? We get 1hr and a half long Lobby Scene, where its one cool action peice after another.

Do I think Movies should be made like that? Not really, unless its LOTR style where it was planned from the beginning, it just exploits a weakness the writers have. Do I hold it against X3? No, I enjoyed it for what it was, a lot more then Hulk

 

[xwolverine2]

hulk sucked

 

[WorthyStevens]

I didn't see Hulk yet. I'll refrain from voting until then...

 

[The Kid]

And what of x3, xwolverine?

 

[I Am The Knight]

I voted Hulk, I certainly enjoyed it more than X3. But I don't like Hulk that much. I still don't own it, and that means a lot to me heh....Anyways, it is a good movie and way better than X3. Sadly the reboot will be a summer-ish all out action type of flick, wich should appeal to mass audiences, but not to a guy like me.

 

[DOG LIPS]

Someone do a Hulk vs. SR so I can vote for Hulk.

 

[AssMan]

Someone do a Hulk vs. SR so I can vote for Hulk.

Why dont you make it yourself you lazy mod

 

[Danger Mouse]

Someone do a Hulk vs. Spider-Man so I can vote for Hulk.

 

[DOG LIPS]

Someone do a Hulk vs. Spider-Man so I can vote for Hulk.

Someone make a Danger Mouse vs. my fist so I can vote for my fist.

 

[LEX]

Hulk. I seriously don't get the hate. It's far too underrated. It's actually a great movie and it's even greater when compared to the said movie. The hairs on the back of my neck raised when Hulk started fighting the military in the desert, and also during the entire scene of Bruce and his dad in the containment room. I get it that it might not appeal to some because of the snail's pace, but what can I say, I'm a patient man.

 

[blind_fury]

The only reason you care anything about the X-characters is because of the first 2 films. It had nothing to do with X3. Compared side by side, Hulk had characterization miles beyond X3.

Even someone who never saw the previous films would be intrigued by the cure storyline and the choices the mutants were faced with. X3 had the best plot of all of the X-men movies. X1 had Magneto trying to kidnap Rogue to put in his machine that turn a bunch of politicians into mutants. That was ******ed. And X2's plot wasn't much better.

In X3 the entire future of mutant kind is at stake. Mutants must look in the mirror and decide if being different is worth fighting for. In Hulk we don't care about anything. Talbot is a joke of a villian. Absorbing dad is another pointless, joke of a villian. The Hulk transformations lack any suspense or purpose they just happen randomly. Bruce Banner is barely tormented by his alter-self. He simply seems to be going along for the ride. Betty is pretty window dressing and nothing more. You never feel her character has anything to lose. Genral Ross is wasted. He's just an empty plot device.

Again, when people watch the Hulk they're constantly looking at their watch waiting for action scenes most of which have no greater purpose to the overall story. Just Hulk fighting some dogs sent after Betty for no compelling reason. Hulk being captured by Talbot and escaping for no compelling reason and then Hulk fighting his dad in some weird cloud for no compelling reason. And the non-action scenes are even worse! When Bruce and Betty chat about whatever, nobody really cares about anything they say. We get long meditative scenes in the desert with exploding star and jellyfish. wtf? We also have long meaningless rants by Bruces's father that serve no purpose except to show veiwers Ang Lee had no idea what to do with the source material. Scenes that don't have you scratching your head have you annoyed or bored.

X3 knew what it was. A big, summer action movie with an important subtext about accepting our differences.

What was the point of the Hulk?

It fails as a fun action movie because the action doesn't connect meaningfully with the drama and outside of a couple of action scenes it's mind-numbingly boring.

It fails as a drama because the story lacks a direction or any purpose and the character aren't engaging

It fails as a comic book movie because everything it shares with the source material seemed reluctant and forced.

X3 is entertaining, the drama serves the story, and reminds us why we love comic books. Hulk makes me wonder why Ang Lee ever chose to do a Hulk movie when he thinks he's so above the source material.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Hulk. I seriously don't get the hate. It's far too underrated. It's actually a great movie and it's even greater when compared to the said movie. The hairs on the back of my neck raised when Hulk started fighting the military in the desert, and also during the entire scene of Bruce and his dad in the containment room. I get it that it might not appeal to some because of the snail's pace, but what can I say, I'm a patient man.

Well, A it obviously didn't apeal to not some, but most people

and B, you get impressed easily, if the action (literaly and thematicly) in Hulk impresses you.

I have patients to, I choose to reserve it for actual compelling characters, plots, and themes, like a Constant Gardener, Slowest movie ever, but what a gold treat that was, Hulk was not, Bana was uncharacteristically stiff, Nolte was bland, even the great Sam Elliot underperformed, a great cast, and a decent (with very good credientials, I am just never completely wowed at anything he does) director.

Louis Letterier will blow what you think of Hulk out of the ball park in 2008

 

[The Kid]

Even someone who never saw the previous films would be intrigued by the cure storyline and the choices the mutants were faced with. X3 had the best plot of all of the X-men movies. X1 had Magneto trying to kidnap Rogue to put in his machine that turn a bunch of politicians into mutants. That was ******ed. And X2's plot wasn't much better.

In X3 the entire future of mutant kind is at stake. Mutants must look in the mirror and decide if being different is worth fighting for. In Hulk we don't care about anything. Talbot is a joke of a villian. Absorbing dad is another pointless, joke of a villian. The Hulk transformations lack any suspense or purpose they just happen randomly. Bruce Banner is barely tormented by his alter-self. He simply seems to be going along for the ride. Betty is pretty window dressing and nothing more. You never feel her character has anything to lose. Genral Ross is wasted. He's just an empty plot device.

Again, when people watch the Hulk they're constantly looking at their watch waiting for action scenes most of which have no greater purpose to the overall story. Just Hulk fighting some dogs sent after Betty for no compelling reason. Hulk being captured by Talbot and escaping for no compelling reason and then Hulk fighting his dad in some weird cloud for no compelling reason. And the non-action scenes are even worse! When Bruce and Betty chat about whatever, nobody really cares about anything they say. We get long meditative scenes in the desert with exploding star and jellyfish. wtf? We also have long meaningless rants by Bruces's father that serve no purpose except to show veiwers Ang Lee had no idea what to do with the source material. Scenes that don't have you scratching your head have you annoyed or bored.

X3 knew what it was. A big, summer action movie with an important subtext about accepting our differences.

What was the point of the Hulk?

It fails as a fun action movie because the action doesn't connect meaningfully with the drama and outside of a couple of action scenes it's mind-numbingly boring.

It fails as a drama because the story lacks a direction or any purpose and the character aren't engaging

It fails as a comic book movie because everything it shares with the source material seemed reluctant and forced.

X3 is entertaining, the drama serves the story, and reminds us why we love comic books. Hulk makes me wonder why Ang Lee ever chose to do a Hulk movie when he thinks he's so above the source material.

Right... and we all know Phoenix dusted Cyclops in the comic and was overpowered by Wolverine's unlimited healing factor... rofl.

 

[Downhere]

X3 is way better than the Hulk. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the Hulk, but X3 is just more fun and exciting.

 

[blind_fury]

Right... and we all know Phoenix dusted Cyclops in the comic and was overpowered by Wolverine's unlimited healing factor... rofl.

I didn't say X3 was an exact replica of the comics. I said it reminded us why we love comic book superheroes.

 

[The Kid]

well I like comic characters because they have cool powers and are interesting people. I'll admit the x3 clown gang magneto teams up with had cool powers except for porcupine guy, but they weren't interesting. In the end I juset felt like I played a videogame at the arcade.

 

[LadyVader]

I hate the last half hour of Hulk.
Where as with X3 I hate the whole f*****g thing.

 

[blind_fury]

well I like comic characters because they have cool powers and are interesting people. I'll admit the x3 clown gang magneto teams up with had cool powers except for porcupine guy, but they weren't interesting. In the end I juset felt like I played a videogame at the arcade.

video games (X3) >>>> watching paint dry (Hulk)

 

[The Kid]

Alright, you wanna play that game huh...

Hulk =

x3 =

And

Hulk =

x3 =

And

Hulk =

x3 =

That's all I have to say.

 

[blind_fury]

Nah, if X3 is Burger King than the Hulk is imitation crab mixed with undigestable wood chips.

And if X3 is Jerry Spinger than the Hulk is Dr.Phil (a pretentious show that thinks its far more important than it is)

and the Star Trek analogy isn't worthy of a response.

 

[The Kid]

I was debating whether to put in a picture of Daredevil vs the Elektra movie, but really although elektra suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkked, daredevil wasn't that much better.

 

[Downhere]

Hey, the daredevil director's cut rocked.