Your ScreenTime for Cyclops,angel and rogue

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  1. GuestStar2004

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    all 3 had pretty pointless roles, if you had written the script, how would you have used them..., just remembering that none of them are allowed too get in wolverines way, none of them are allowed to stop wolverine from being the hero at the end... and none of them can get more screen time then storm and... ahem wolverine, and with chances of no X4, and only spinoffs being Planned, Remember FOX is over your heads :thing:
     
  2. britrogue

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    Well, for starters, the script would have been written in a way that would have made it impossible for this film to be less that 2.5 hours...............

    Ok, Cyclops. If I had my way, he would have been one of the principle characters this time around, but I do understand the fact that he was busy making Superman (cough............bastard............cough). So, with that in mind, we would have not seen the creepy skin crawling effect at Alkali Lake. They would have been kissing, Jean would have opened her eyes in some evil manner, and immediately we would have gone to Xavier's pained expression (amidst the sound of Phoenix scream of course). Cyclops would then be AWOL. Jean of course has no memory of what happened to him, and neither for that matter does Phoenix. Phoenix believes she has killed him, but is slightly confused over the matter due to Jean's influence. Cyclops would then have reappeared at the end battle. If Jean had to die, it should have been Scott that killed her. If Logan has to have some major part in this, he could have done exactly what he did in the 90s animated series. Cry about it. That's emotional!
    As for Angel, I would have ensured that there was a reason for him going to the X-Men for help. Also, I would have used the beginning Danger Room sequence to my advantage. What the hell was wrong with the idea of Warren taking up some emergency training in the DR? He overhears that there is going to be an attack on his father, he wants to protect him, the X-Men are short on members, so why the hell not?
    Rogue. Do not even get me started. WTF did they do to her and why? The little screentime that she had pretty much portrayed her as nothing more than a moody *****. There wasn't really any screentime devoted to showing her turmoil over the cure. I would have written in a far more emotional reaction to her discovery of the cure's existence, and I would have definately written in some form of backlash to Storm's pretty callous (and may I say out of character?) comment about there being "nothing wrong with you."
    And, I know it's been said before, but in my script, Rogue would have been present in the final battle.
     
  3. DRob

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    the true problem with this film is that no one at the studio really thought about all of the chararcters, besides Rouge, both Cyke and Angel were some of the most interesting in the film, instead they devoted more time to Storm(a character who was wasted just because her f****** ego needed a boost)also, Colossus was another character they couldn't find any time for.

    and another thing, I think Ratner said something about all characters plot arcs had been paid off, meaning that there was no where else they could go from here so there's no reason for an X4

    seems like Brett is also Director of B.S.
     
  4. LEGO Spidey

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    Storm: There's nothing to cure. There's nothing wrong with you, or any of us for that matter.
    Rogue: (takes her gloves off) Really? Why don't you give me a hug then? (storms out)

    You get the idea. Simple and effective.
     
  5. MaleRogue

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    Well I think Cyclops was useless...He was only in the movie to get killed by his loved one.
    Angel.. WTF he was there like 5 minutes of the whole movie... not even 5 minutes...and his scene's were pointless except for the one where he saves his dad.
    And Rogue..I think Rogue was pretty good in the movie...not at all what I would do... but in my eyes she was important in the movie for the cure plot and all... she was the only one we know who took the cure for herself to get a better life. I liked that...


    But i am writing a book for myself and there she also takes the cure but her powers come back increased. Flying super strength like I wanted in the movie... But I also increase the fact that she will be able to control her powers... Just because she is portrayed in the movie like a whining little *****... So she will controll her powers thanks to some theraphie and powers of Psylocke..
     
  6. AVEITWITHJAMON

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    Well, i would have made the movie almost an hour longer, Cyclops would have had a role the size of Wolverine and Storms and Rogue would not have taken the cure. Also, Collosus would have gotten more than one line and a fight with Juggernaut, and the Iceman vs Pyro fight would have been longer.

    Also Jean would have been killed by Cyclops after Wolverine tried to get to her but she just threw him away, Cyclops would have shouted "Jean I love you." Then Jean would come back and Cyclops would have blasted her away. I would change more but it would take me 3 days to wright it!
     
  7. PowersOfMind

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    Well even though I like the movie the way it was... there are a few changes i'd make. For one the movie would have been 2+ hours.

    I would have left Rogue the same because to me she was a representation of the downside of being a mutant and I like that( the fact that its not always about kick a** abilities). But then the cure would not be permanent and when it wears off she though some series of events get someone elses powers.

    Angel would have been in the final battle. Im not sure what I would do with him but he would be there.

    Now Cyke... im torn because im not the biggest Cyclops fan but I feel that he should be in the final battle in some form. I would still have Logan kill Jean or Jean kill herself because I hate mushy stuff and I dont want to do the whole Jean and Scott "I love you soo much... I cant live without you..." dialogue. Maybe something like she asks Cyke to kill her and he refuses so then Logan does it. And that creates a big rift between them, well bigger than the one that was already there.
     
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    LOL! Now THAT is fabulous. If it was my script, I'd sure as hell put that in! Genius!
     
  9. tonytr1687

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    Cyclops is blown back into the woods instead of being vaporized. He wakes up after a bout of unconsciousness to find his leg broken. So from there he begins a blind, limping journey through the forest until he finally reaches the bar from X1 which sits just at the edge of the trees. He goes inside where we find Angel in hiding after having escaped from his father. Scott gets in a scuffle with some redneck bar patrons who are bewildered by why he has his eyes closed. They think he's a mutant and harass him. Xavier's school is mentioned and that gets Angel's attention. Fight ensues but they weaken Scott by beating his leg. They are about to pry open his eyes when Angel intervenes and saves him. He grabs Cyclops and they fly out of the bar by exploding through the ceiling. Later the two of them are camping out in the woods, getting to know each other. They agree to help each other find their way to the school. Angel is the eyes and transportation, Scott is the directions. Angel uses his blood to heal Scott's broken leg. Meanwhile, we actually see Rogue at her cure appointment where the syringe is about to be applied when Pyro's flame blast from outside interrupts and sends the whole place into chaos. Rogue is forced to crawl to safety where she accidentally touches a fallen mutant and absorbs his strength. One of the doctors is calling for help and with her new strength she is able to save him. The doctor is genuinely grateful and this is where Rogue realizes she must keep her powers. Because she CAN help people. In the end she goes back to the mansion after the others have left for Muir Island (which is off the coast of Manhattan, so no Alcatraz). There she meets up with Cyclops and Angel who have just arrived. The three hear of what's happening at Muir Island and agree to join their fellow X-men (either Angel somehow carries the both of them or we find that the X-men have a helicopter at their disposal too). During the climax Magneto is defeated (and dies) with the help of Rogue instead of being cured, Leech is taken in by Callisto who escapes underground with some others, Trask unleashes a prototype Sentinel to help the diminishing troops, Angel does more than just save his father, and Cyclops is the one to "save" Jean instead of Wolverine. She returns to her normal self just long enough to let him (reluctantly of course) take off his visor and blast her, thus echoing their first encounter at the beginning of the film but this time with Cyke's power winning out b/c of Jean's willpower. By the way, Jean wouldnt have the power to vaporize ppl anyway.

    Things end on a sour note concerning human-mutant relations. Beast retires from his political career and settles back at the mansion, and because of the destruction that Magneto and Phoenix caused (btw Phoenix would actually become known by the public and cause much more havoc so that she's not merely a Brotherhood lackey) Trask is given the go-ahead to put Sentinels into mass production.
     
  10. WorthyStevens

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    Angel's scenes weren't pointless... granted, he didn't have a lot of scenes unfortunately, but he certainly wasn't pointless.
     
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    Dont Forget about Colossus....:marv:
     
  13. MoPlaYa

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    Cyclops: He would have only gotten knocked out at the lake. He would have woke up and got on his bike and went back to the manison. When he got there they X-Men would just left to Alcatraz he would have followed in a small jet..he would get to the battle towards the end and him and Wolverine would be the only 2 left to stop Jean since everyone else got everyone off the island. Wolverine gets close to Jean but she sends him flying away.Cyclops gets to Jean and tells her he loves her, then he realizes the Jean he knew is gone so he blast her with his optic beam, she gets knocked back into Woverine, who pops his claws in her....Storm and Cyclops run the school now.

    Angel: after he runs from getting cured, he goes to Xaviers, When he finds out about Alcatraz and realizes his father is there he tells the X-Men to take him with them, Wolverine says they can use all the help they can get and Storm gives him an uniform. Wolverine cuts a whole in the back for his wings. during the last battle he flys around picking up brotherhood members and droping them in the Water. He saves his dad and takes him to a safe place. He tells his dad he has found somewhere with people like him and where he can belong. He tells his dad he loves him and good-bye.

    Colossus: I would have gave him a scene where him and Kitty are talking and he asks her if he can draw her. alittle bit of flirting but not too much.
    During the last battle magneto sends Juggernaut to kill Leech, Colossus gets in Juggernaut`s way and they start fighting. the fight ends when Juggernaut grabs a car and hits Colossus with it.then Kitty goes after Juggs once he got inside the building. then when Magneto is throwing cars at the X-Men and pyro is catching them on fire, Colossus get up and starts punching the flying cars back at them but magneto hits him with a car.


    Rogue: I would have kept her them same..I`m not a fan of movie rogue
     
  14. tonytr1687

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    His only point in the entire film was saving his father. Thats it. I'd say that's pretty pointless. They didnt even show how he went from being someone who hates his wings (trying to cut them off) to someone who loves them and therefore rejects the cure.
     
  15. MoPlaYa

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    Angel should have joined the team
     
  16. WorthyStevens

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    He's also the reason the mansion stayed open. And was also served as a symbol for mutant liberty at the end, hence him flying over the park.
     
  17. MoPlaYa

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    Very true....:up:
     
  18. Nell2ThaIzzay

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    I don't think he ever hated his wings.... I think he only tried to cut them off because he didn't want his dad to know.
     
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    Since we saw Warren in the present, arriving at the lab, we see in his face he isn't sure at all about the cure.
     
  20. MoPlaYa

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    Angel loves his wings..They help him get the chicks...:)
     
  21. i love this one one where an actual relationship is developed between two of the original x men and rogue gets her kickass powers
     
  22. YJ1

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    Yep, I also enjoyed the movie the way it is. Still, I would've found a way to include Angel in the final battle and I would've found a way to use Colossus more in that battle as well. Colossus was woefully underused.

    To the chagrin of all the Cyke whiners of the world, I honestly would've left the minimal screen time of Rogue and Cyclops exactly the same. Cyke should've been used better in X2. That's what Cyke fans should be b*tching about. His treatment in X3 immediately gave depth and emotional complexion to the Phoenix disorder in Jean's mind. Having him nap through most of X2 for no reason is the bigger shame.
     
  23. The Original Bamfer

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    I'd give Logan, Jean, Cyclops and Magneto equal time, as they deserve - Yes, Logan, because he attracts many viewers. Maybe Scott and Jean a bit more. Rogue should have had a bigger role than Iceman. Angel didn't bother me too much... I'd just let him do more fighting... wear an X-suit.
     
  24. DarknessOfDeath

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    Actually, I'd give Jean, Cyclops, Magneto equal time, and Logan with the same about of time on par with... what Cyclops had in x2. lol But, give Scott and Jean more time for sure.

    as for Rogue... :D

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    ... yeah :p a bigger role :)
     
  25. ico

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    I wouldn't give Logan big screen-time just because he will bring the viewers in. That's what the prodcuers have actually been diong for the last 3 movies and he is getting so freakin' tiresome now.

    Personally, for X3, I woulda pushed Logan back a bit, as he wasn't integral to the storyline. Storm, even though she is my favourite character, would also have been pushed back as she wasn't integral either. Phoenix would've been brought forward, as would Rogue. As for Angel, I wasn't fussed on him either way. And I'm not a fan of the actor at all, he kind of irritated me, so I would probably have re-cast and give him a bigger role or left the actor in the part and left it as miniscule :D
     

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