Justice League Zack Snyder Directing Justice League - Part 6

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No, the scene is about Lois and Martha bonding on several levels, and specifically about setting up Lois’ character conflict.

A few relatively short moments of that scene are about making the audience (as well as Lois and Martha, laugh). And even that has to do with them as characters. The laughter is about them comforting and relaxing each other, not just the audience.



I would imagine the filmmakers know what the scene is meant to be.

Since the scene is placed after several more serious and intense scenes and consists of a fairly casual conversation between two characters, odds are good that the scene is intended to allow the audience to come down from the tension of previous scenes, using some levity and humor.



It isn’t perfunctory, though, nor is it any more shallow than any of Lois Lane's interactions with Martha. In fact, it's probably the majority of the set up and development that Lois Lane receives in the film.

The scene has some depth to it. It’s even arguably the scene with the most depth and bonding that we’ve seen between Lois and Martha in this franchise, an emotional ring delivery scene aside. It’s also one of the few sequences we’ve seen in this franchise that specifically addresses why Lois does what she does.



I can't help but think that you don't remember the actual scene. The television thing is a transition into the scene. It is not the meat of the scene itself. It's 45 seconds or so, at which point the focus turns to Lois and Martha for the remaining two minutes of the scene.

I didn’t say it was supposed to feel scary. It’s an action movie, not a horror movie.

But the audience can laugh and feel for the woman at the same time. The humor is not in her plight, it is in the fact that the reporters are treating her like a crazy person, but she’s actually right about what has happened. Her husband has been taken by aliens. She's legitimately concerned. It’s a nod to the “secret invasion” nature of the villain's plot.

I would suggest that you watch the scene again. The focus of the overall scene, from a story a character standpoint, is clearly not on making people laugh. It’s about Martha and Lois’s conflicts and them showing support and comforting each other.



Well, in this case, the humor, after the alien invasion story, comes from the very nature of the scene’s conflict, which is that Lois has lost her ambition.



The writer is thinking that balancing a serious moment with a brief moment of levity is acceptable mainstream writing. It’s a brief moment of levity in a two minute plus sequence.



I don’t think that it does undercut it in any real sense. They go right back to talking about what has happened. It’s a nice quiet moment with a quick laugh to break the ice and then they move right on.



I’ve already explained why the humor is character specific.

We’re not exactly talking about a fart joke here.



Which brings up an interesting perspective...using subtle humor, many people didn’t even recognize that there WAS humor in the films. WB made an attempt to broaden the film’s appeal by making the humor a little bit more evident.



Entertainment quite literally means to “provide with amusement or enjoyment”.

I would say making people laugh falls under “amusement”.



But they’re also having a fairly casual meeting. There is no indication that this is meant to be a particularly heavy scene.



No, but she smiled at the memory and laughed a bit. She’s using humor, period, and it helped her to feel better. You can see it in Lane’s performance. It doesn't have to be humor specifically about Clark.



…you did.

Wow, now I can see why people find it exhausting debating with you. Straw man arguments, missing the points, stretching arguments so thin that they no longer resemble the original points, etc, etc.
 
I wonder did Superman fight Steppenwolf in the Zack Snyder cut at the end as much as he did in the Joss Whedon version? Other than Superman dodging Steppenwolf punch all his scenes at the end were reshoots. So I wonder what in the world happen in the Zack Snyder version that WB did not like?
The heat visison part was snyder too.
 
Hehe... I like to think of Clark and Lois being thirsty; adult Clark getting busy. :D
 
No, the scene is about Lois and Martha bonding on several levels, and specifically about setting up Lois’ character conflict.

A few relatively short moments of that scene are about making the audience (as well as Lois and Martha, laugh). And even that has to do with them as characters. The laughter is about them comforting and relaxing each other, not just the audience.



I would imagine the filmmakers know what the scene is meant to be.

Since the scene is placed after several more serious and intense scenes and consists of a fairly casual conversation between two characters, odds are good that the scene is intended to allow the audience to come down from the tension of previous scenes, using some levity and humor.



It isn’t perfunctory, though, nor is it any more shallow than any of Lois Lane's interactions with Martha. In fact, it's probably the majority of the set up and development that Lois Lane receives in the film.

The scene has some depth to it. It’s even arguably the scene with the most depth and bonding that we’ve seen between Lois and Martha in this franchise, an emotional ring delivery scene aside. It’s also one of the few sequences we’ve seen in this franchise that specifically addresses why Lois does what she does.



I can't help but think that you don't remember the actual scene. The television thing is a transition into the scene. It is not the meat of the scene itself. It's 45 seconds or so, at which point the focus turns to Lois and Martha for the remaining two minutes of the scene.

I didn’t say it was supposed to feel scary. It’s an action movie, not a horror movie.

But the audience can laugh and feel for the woman at the same time. The humor is not in her plight, it is in the fact that the reporters are treating her like a crazy person, but she’s actually right about what has happened. Her husband has been taken by aliens. She's legitimately concerned. It’s a nod to the “secret invasion” nature of the villain's plot.

I would suggest that you watch the scene again. The focus of the overall scene, from a story a character standpoint, is clearly not on making people laugh. It’s about Martha and Lois’s conflicts and them showing support and comforting each other.



Well, in this case, the humor, after the alien invasion story, comes from the very nature of the scene’s conflict, which is that Lois has lost her ambition.



The writer is thinking that balancing a serious moment with a brief moment of levity is acceptable mainstream writing. It’s a brief moment of levity in a two minute plus sequence.



I don’t think that it does undercut it in any real sense. They go right back to talking about what has happened. It’s a nice quiet moment with a quick laugh to break the ice and then they move right on.



I’ve already explained why the humor is character specific.

We’re not exactly talking about a fart joke here.



Which brings up an interesting perspective...using subtle humor, many people didn’t even recognize that there WAS humor in the films. WB made an attempt to broaden the film’s appeal by making the humor a little bit more evident.



Entertainment quite literally means to “provide with amusement or enjoyment”.

I would say making people laugh falls under “amusement”.



But they’re also having a fairly casual meeting. There is no indication that this is meant to be a particularly heavy scene.



No, but she smiled at the memory and laughed a bit. She’s using humor, period, and it helped her to feel better. You can see it in Lane’s performance. It doesn't have to be humor specifically about Clark.



…you did.

This is all because someone said they didn't like that terrible "thirsty Lois" joke.

There's no hill too small for you to die, is there? :funny:
 
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I almost squeeeee'd seeing posts in Vero of Zack, Mark Twight and Clay Enos together at the gym, captioned "working"...but then I realized Enos is in California while Zack and Mark are in the UK...
 
That Junkie tweet tho...people...could this really be happening???
 
Did you guys see Zack tweeted "I'm around"? Apparently, eagle-eyed folk noticed that Patty's tweet about Wiig being cast and his tweet happened literal seconds apart. And he hadn't tweeted anything in like half a year before this latest tweet.

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Junkie said one week until "something else."
 
What would you guys' reaction be if we got the Snyder cut?
 
What would you guys' reaction be if we got the Snyder cut?

Would be very, very hyped and interested to see it and compare it with JL's theatrical cut. Also give WB some kudos for releasing it, but lord knows that ain't happening. :oldrazz:
 
Was just looking at Zack's twitter and man. This set pic is seriously more cinematic than a lot of movie stills :funny:

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I think somethings definitely coming guys, the writings on the wall here. Notice how no one, not Zack not anyone has come out and said "A Zack Snyder cut will not come out, its impossible, the theater cut is the only one we completed." If WB had no plans on releasing this thing you'd think they'd just come out and say it to squash all this because the ZS cut is all everyone talks about this movie since it came out. ZS and the studio know full well by now that theres huge demand for it.

Everyone involved with the production has been teasing this thing for months and I think theres a very deliberate reason they didnt release any deleted scenes on the blu ray besides those two Superman scenes. Junkie's tweet basically confirms somethings happening.

I think we're going to hear something from the man himself very soon, theyve been biding their time until he was ready...
 
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