Justice League Zack Snyder Directing Justice League - Part 8

[Da-Scribe]

The budgets for all three of films were way too high.

Ah but it could be as close to the finished version as they’ll ever get. Justice League was already compromised from what he originally intended anyway as he had to make script changes during production.

Snyder only has everything to gain from its release, from WB POV they don’t ever need to release it as they’ve moved in. He literally has no bargaining power here.

Snyder didn’t set the budgets though lol.

At any rate, WB might very well have moved on. But AT&T has a streaming service launching that needs original content and a theatrical slate that currently doesn’t exist. Snyder’s Cut is an obvious get for them.

And negotiating power aside, Snyder got every right to want to pass on doing yet another film for WB that isn’t really what he wants. All his fans will feel is further ire toward WB for inhibiting him.

 

[Mr. E Nygma]

Please be true, please be true....

 

[kguillou]

Snyder didn’t set the budgets though lol.

At any rate, WB might very well have moved on. But AT&T has a streaming service launching that needs original content and a theatrical slate that currently doesn’t exist. Snyder’s Cut is an obvious get for them.

And negotiating power aside, Snyder got every right to want to pass on doing yet another film for WB that isn’t really what he wants. All his fans will feel is further ire toward WB for inhibiting him.

I certainly HOPE thats not the stance that Zack is taking with this, in that hes hoping theyre gonna let him completely overhaul the movie altogether. Nothing will ever get released at that point. I would like to think he can at least stand by the movie HE shot even though it wasnt 100% what he wanted.

 

[SupermanFan]

Snyder didn’t set the budgets though lol.

At any rate, WB might very well have moved on. But AT&T has a streaming service launching that needs original content and a theatrical slate that currently doesn’t exist. Snyder’s Cut is an obvious get for them.

And negotiating power aside, Snyder got every right to want to pass on doing yet another film for WB that isn’t really what he wants. All his fans will feel is further ire toward WB for inhibiting him.

I’m not saying he did but he’s created movies that cost that much.

They may do but that doesn’t mean they’re gonna give him millions to finish a film they’re not gonna make that kind of money back on.

He can pass all he wants, but he can’t complain that WB won’t give him more of their money to spend. As I said he has no bargaining power to demand that either. It’s a case of if he wants to do it he’s gonna have to compromise.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I certainly HOPE thats not the stance that Zack is taking with this, in that hes hoping theyre gonna let him completely overhaul the movie altogether. Nothing will ever get released at that point. I would like to think he can at least stand by the movie HE shot even though it wasnt 100% what he wanted.

Never said anything about completely overhauling. I’m just saying he’s entitled to put out a film he’s actually happy with. Same as any other filmmaker.

I’m not saying he did but he’s created movies that cost that much.

They may do but that doesn’t mean they’re gonna give him millions to finish a film they’re not gonna make that kind of money back on.

He can pass all he wants, but he can’t complain that WB won’t give him more of their money to spend. As I said he has no bargaining power to demand that either. It’s a case of if he wants to do it he’s gonna have to compromise.

He didn’t overspend if he was given a budget and then made a film that was priced at that budget.

And he can compromise and still be happy with his film. My only point here is that he’s not obligated to just release whatever because we say so. The world keeps on turning for everyone else. He’s the one that has to live with it. Might as well make it something he can be proud of.

For anyone championing the Snyder Cut, they have to realize that suggesting he settle for something other than a cut he actually wants out there completely defeats the purpose of this whole campaign.

 

[kguillou]

I understand that. I know a great many of us would be more than happy to watch the movie in whatever state its currently in on his USB drive in his home, but as an artist he would only wanna release a finished, polished film hes happy with because its representative of his work.

All I’m saying is i hope his eyes arent bigger than his stomach. The original movie he shot in principle photography may not have been 100% what he wanted from day one but I would think if he has the chance to finish that movie the way he wants it’ll make everyone happy.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Isn't that guy Andy the same one who got fired over being a massive perv? Don't give him any clicks, fam.

 

[Mr. E Nygma]

Isn't that guy Andy the same one who got fired over being a massive perv? Don't give him any clicks, fam.

Yea he is. I'm not a fan of his but I found the rebuttal to his tweet worth posting.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Yea he is. I'm not a fan of his but I found the rebuttal to his tweet worth posting.

Going by his tweet, I'm assuming he wrote some article about it, so was mainly talking about giving him clicks for that. I must admit to not being well informed into his metoo situation, but kinda find it funny and desperate that he knew he'd pay his rent by writing about this snyder cut. lol

 

[Herolee10]

Sigh, this is really getting to be exhausting at this point.

Unless we get an news article, from a trade source, announcing the release of this film, then I'm pretty much over with all of these will they or maybe tweets.

And if Snyder is planning on trying to tweak this film so that it's molded into the original cliffhanger that he had in mind with a black suit superman for the whole picture then my interest will definitely be at a all time low.

 

[Micromind]

There's no way a friggin Justice League sequel would be made for that amount of money, especially if all the stuff about time-travel and Dakseid and post-apocalyptic Earth ends up being used. $65 million is only slightly higher than what it cost to make the first Deadpool.

Hell, if you're bringing back the entire original cast (Affleck included), that's probably gonna eat into a decent chunk of your budget.

I'm not even disputing the possibility of JL sequels (though I do see it as a long shot); I'm saying there's very, very little chance they would be released as HBO Max exclusives if they did by some chance get made. If releasing huge, expensive superhero blockbusters straight to streaming were economically feasible, WB would've selected WW1984 as their big top tier HBO Max launch product.

Yeah, I'm just talking about other DC movies / non cbm's that can be filmed on low budget by Snyder for HBO Max, like what he's doing for Netflix.

I don't see any reason why he would be welcomed back for JL 2 or even any other DCEU movies by WB (film studio).

 

[Da-Scribe]

Money talks. If it means they can get their bonuses, they will welcome him back with rose petals and foot massages. I’d wait to see how his zombie flick and Snyder Cut perform, before ruling anything out.

 

[SupermanFan]

He didn’t overspend if he was given a budget and then made a film that was priced at that budget.

And he can compromise and still be happy with his film. My only point here is that he’s not obligated to just release whatever because we say so. The world keeps on turning for everyone else. He’s the one that has to live with it. Might as well make it something he can be proud of.

For anyone championing the Snyder Cut, they have to realize that suggesting he settle for something other than a cut he actually wants out there completely defeats the purpose of this whole campaign.

Trust me if the extra money he needs crawls into the millions category then it ain’t happening. And as I keep repeating he will have two choices accept what he’s offered or walk away. At best he may get his little Harry Lennix-MM moment as he claimed he’s already filmed Diane Lane’s & Amy Adams side of things but that will be it. He won’t be getting to film that ending where Darkseid kills Lois.

Money talks. If it means they can get their bonuses, they will welcome him back with rose petals and foot massages. I’d wait to see how his zombie flick and Snyder Cut perform, before ruling anything out.

Anyone expecting more beyond the SC are just setting themselves up for disappointment. It will be this and done in terms of big budget movies.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Speaking in absolutes again? If it meets or exceeds AT&T's expectations, why wouldn't they bring him back for more? It's only logical

If he has to cast different actors for the roles so be it. The current DC movie verse(s) is a directionless dumpster fire so people wouldn't mind it

 

[Da-Scribe]

I ain’t settling myself up for anything. I support the Snyder Cut, but am fine if it never happens. But if it is a success, especially given the current theatrical climate, it’s ridiculous to think he won’t be back. WB is a business and they will do whatever supports their bottom line.

 

[flickchick85]

The current DC movie verse(s) is a directionless dumpster fire so people wouldn't mind it

Dumpster fire? Really? Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Joker were all MUCH more well-received than anything Snyder ever put out. Shazam! and BoP are smaller films based on more obscure titles, and while they didn't set the box office on fire, they turned a profit and had better receptions from critics and audiences. And they've got a Batman reboot coming up from a filmmaker who's proven himself on both fronts, as well as a Suicide Squad reboot from a guy who's a proven crowdpleaser. Success isn't dictated by how connected your universe is, and somehow I don't see WB longing for the good ol' days of the Snyder era anytime soon.

Which is not to say they wouldn't bring him back for a film of some kind, but it won't be to steer their universe again. That ship has sailed...and sunk.

 

[Herolee10]

Speaking in absolutes again? If it meets or exceeds AT&T's expectations, why wouldn't they bring him back for more? It's only logical

If he has to cast different actors for the roles so be it. The current DC movie verse(s) is a directionless dumpster fire so people wouldn't mind it

 

[SupermanFan]

I ain’t settling myself up for anything. I support the Snyder Cut, but am fine if it never happens. But if it is a success, especially given the current theatrical climate, it’s ridiculous to think he won’t be back. WB is a business and they will do whatever supports their bottom line.

Wait are you talking just as a director or continuing his arc? Cause I see him making films for WB again maybe even a DC movie one day. But as for his arc continuing, outside of a comic, animated thing or at a stretch some sort of sequel live action series thing it ain’t gonna happen. Snyder Cut isn’t gonna be raking him 100s of millions 3 even as a Blu Ray release cause it ain’t getting a wide theatrical release.

 

[DS80]

Imagine if Zack Snyder had your mindset. He'd be serving Joss Whedon drinks on the Justice League set and later would do press for the theatrical release claiming it's his vision.

Now, after all these years, and everything that happened, you think he'll compromise? Zack Snyder's Justice League means ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE. 100% his vision for it.

 

[SupermanFan]

You tell yourself what you have to but if you believe WB are gonna pony up millions for him to shoot new scenes and then have him make $200-300 million sequels then you’re deluding yourself.

 

[Herolee10]

His vision may not be what's best imho if he doesn't have a chance to finish his story. If I'm not mistaken, his JL was meant to lead into a JL 2.

His Superman arc was also supposed to go on for another 2 films. So if his cut of JL is going to be his swan song from the DCEU then he's just ending it on another cliffhanger (Superman in all black).

No way in Hell are they going to have him direct another JL film. The world has a better chance of recovering completely from the COVID-19 fallout by next week than that ever happening.

 

[Erzengel]

Yeah. Snyder's vision ended the minute the reviews came out on BvS. It took only a few months after the release for JL2 to be cancelled.

Was The Announced Two-Part 'Justice League' Demoted To One Movie?

Snyder's JL movie is a fragmented/altered version of what he wanted to do. However, I think do think at best there are some things he filmed that would have lead to events in JL2.

 

[Herolee10]

Plus, I have a strong feeling that if he does edit his cut of JL to be more akin to what he originally had in mind (where it ends on a semi-cliffhanger note/leads into his idea of JL2) then it's just going to add further fuel to the flame where his loyalists (aka zealots) are going to start clamoring for Zack Snyder to be brought back to make JL2. They will then start harassing people and tarnish a movement that had originally started with good intentions.

Just finish the effects/edit of the film and release it. No need to waste money for scenes that will lead into nothing. More importantly, finish the story that was started in MOS where we saw Superman's (divisive) humble beginnings and how he became one of Earth's greatest heroes and founding member of the JL. It really isn't that complicated unless you make it out to be.

 

[Calvin Ellis]

Yeah. Snyder's vision ended the minute the reviews came out on BvS. It took only a few months after the release for JL2 to be cancelled.

Was The Announced Two-Part 'Justice League' Demoted To One Movie?

Snyder's JL movie is a fragmented/altered version of what he wanted to do. However, I think do think at best there are some things he filmed that would have lead to events in JL2.

That's how him and Johns rewrote and reworked the movie if I'm not mistaken. They took his two part movie and made it into one long movie but left it opened incase it was a hit. That's the movie I want to see. His 5 movie arc does sound interesting but I have no interest in that since Ben won't be back. For me to have an interest in that I would want the whole original team there.

 

[Tra-El]

There won't be sequels, especially in Zack's vision. That's silly and delusional thinking. Plus, Zack already told us everything. We know what his plan was. There's no element of surprise leading up to more films. We already know where everything goes and how it ends.

I say let Zack finish his already compromised version of JL and whatever FX is needed. Release it and finish his vision in graphic novel form.