Zack Snyder Reveals Watchmen Details

No they aren't that similar looking, and their stories are not similar at all.

I didn't say a thing about their stories.

Silver now equals Blue? :huh:

I'm sorry, but PUH-LEASE! You're honestly telling me that nobody would or could see any similiarity between this...

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...and this...
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...because the color is different? Really?

Again, I'm not saying that they should change his look, but you're completely kidding yourself if you think that there is no similarity in their appearance.
 
Pretty sure I read or watched an interview with Snyder saying that he was trying out paints and makeup that would give off a glow based on lighting. He was getting good results. That would drastically cut down on the budget and make filming easier. Not to mention look better than CGI and not just a "Blue Surfer or "Blue T-1000".
 
Pretty sure I read or watched an interview with Snyder saying that he was trying out paints and makeup that would give off a glow based on lighting. He was getting good results. That would drastically cut down on the budget and make filming easier. Not to mention look better than CGI and not just a "Blue Surfer or "Blue T-1000".

See now there's a minor alteration we can all live with. In fact, it sounds downright cool.
 
Pretty sure I read or watched an interview with Snyder saying that he was trying out paints and makeup that would give off a glow based on lighting. He was getting good results. That would drastically cut down on the budget and make filming easier. Not to mention look better than CGI and not just a "Blue Surfer or "Blue T-1000".
Are you sure it was a Snyder interview? Something of that kind was reported by AICN Moriarty, when he saw some pre-production work for the Greengrass version.
I'm sure they'll use the same approach now.
And then there's Dr. Manhattan. One of the key questions that everyone asks when discussing the possibility of turning this into a film is "How are they going to handle Dr. Manhattan" Well, I've seen about ten minutes of FX tests that were done to answer that very question, and I am confident that he will work on film. Basically, they painted an actor with luminescent paint, then shot him using specific lights and filmstock. The result is a live effect, not something that has to be done later with a computer. There's a sort of crawling blue energy that seems to be a part of his skin that is just fascinating, and it allows them to shoot him as part of the scene interacting with the other actors instead of having to drop him in as a CGI element later.
 
Are you sure it was a Snyder interview? Something of that kind was reported by AICN Moriarty, when he saw some pre-production work for the Greengrass version.
I'm sure they'll use the same approach now.

Possibly. Probably. Just find an actor, get him to hit to use "The Leonidas Workout" and then paint his ass blue everyday. He is blue skinned and they can use old camera techniques when Manhattan uses his powers. I'd much rather see a man painted blue with white contacts than the something that looks like the Silver Surfer.
 
A thought just occurred to me. Does anyone else think that with SS being in the new FF4 flick, the powers that be may demand that Manhattan's look be altered to avoid similiarity? I'm not saying that this would necessarily be a good idea, but it does seem like something that they could have to deal with.

hmm, i know where you're coming from, but they can still make the Doc look a little bit different. they would most likely get a real actor to play him then come up with an appropriate costume.

what i'd like to know is the shade of blue they'll be going for. too bright and you're right they would draw similarities with SS or even T1000, too dark and he'll look like the Intel guys.
 
they're probably gonna make him A) MUCH bigger, B) probably more of a Greenish/blue hue to avoid the liquid metal feel/look and also probably that since it will be a physical element, they can work on some of the elements they want in post to make him look somewhat different. I'm sure the blue/green hue idea was something that Aranofsky was gunning for on his time on the project to avoid a T1000 type look
 
I'll admit that I'm struggling to appreciate where this Silver Surfer/T-1000/'liquid metal feel/look' comparison is comin' from with regard to Doc Manhattan; that's certainly not an association that I've ever attached to the character.

In fact, the overall effect of his appearance as depicted throughout WATCHMEN is actually the polar opposite of those other two characters, in so much as his 'skin' is in no way shiny nor possessed of a highly reflective, metallic quality... so much so in fact that, in the comics, Doc M's outer epidermis never features any highlights and neither are any shadows cast upon his surface, the inked hatching defining his impressive musculature (so as not to make for a mere flat, uninteresting, 2-D looking drawing) and not providing areas of contrasting shade.

This was clearly a deliberate artistic effect by the creators and cannot simply be attributed to the limitations of mid 80s comic book colouring techniques when WATCHMEN was first published; check out the ABSOLUTE edition with its new, state-of-the-art digitally enhanced colour, and you'll see that Manhattan remains the same, noticably free from shadow and highlight.

It's as if his body actually absorbs light instead of reflecting and so amplifying it, which adds to his overall 'otherworldly' inhuman weirdness, I guess.

Now, I don't know how the hell you'd replicate this effect up on screen, but if it is achievable, then you'd have a character in Dr Manhattan that is truly unique and very distinct from anything that has appeared before in terms of physical looks alone.
 
I'm sorry since when does blue equal metal? If Marvel hasn't complained about the similarities(which is only that both characters are bald and naked)throughout the 20 years that Doc M has been around, then they wouldn't do it now.
 
I'll admit that I'm struggling to appreciate where this Silver Surfer/T-1000/'liquid metal feel/look' comparison is comin' from with regard to Doc Manhattan; that's certainly not an association that I've ever attached to the character.

Just many have thought that Manhattan would would be all CGI and wouldn't look 100% real like Surfer and T-1000 and other CGI characters. But on the other hand you don't want to make it look like he was the inspiration for The Blue Man Group.

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I wasn't pointing out an issue with the use of CGI per se, just that, as Punch has rightly stated, this technique doesn't necessarily have to mean a metallic appearance and thus understandable comparison between Dr Manhattan and the likes of The Silver Surfer and T-1000.

The fact that this would then create the impression that the character is not entirely 100% real might even be a distinct advantage in this instance; after all, the Manhattan of the comic is not composed of flesh and blood but instead pure energy manipulated at an atomic level by his sheer will alone in order to create a representation of his previous organic form, and it is his very 'unrealness' as a result that causes some to feel uncomfortable and disconcerted in his presence.

Personally, I'd go for a combination of the two - a performance by a real actor in make-up/prosthetics then enhanced in post-production by the subtle yet effective use of CG effects to create an aura of extra-normal otherworldliness about the character, yet still allowing the strength and essence of the actor to shine through.
 
I'm sorry since when does blue equal metal? If Marvel hasn't complained about the similarities(which is only that both characters are bald and naked)throughout the 20 years that Doc M has been around, then they wouldn't do it now.

First off, I never said Marvel was gonna complain. I said that the Watchmen developers may want to avoid having Manhattan look too much like Surfer.

Secondly, I think it's very strange that people keep saying that blue isn't silver, as if I didn't know that. We're looking at two characters here who are alien-looking, bald, naked, extremely powerful, seemingly void of normal human emotions and very dignified in their actions. There are very obvious similiarities.

It's funny, I've been studying for a developmental psych test all weekend and we're studying children. Supposedly, around age seven, most people's thinking becomes decentered, meaning that they can look at more than one aspect of an object (color, for example). So assuming that most of the people who see this R-rated movie will be older than seven, they will be able to see the similarities.

Once again, I'm not saying that they should alter his look, but experience tells me that it may be something that the big-wigs will want to address.
 
A Watchmen video game? Sounds great.
 
^^yeah, that was total bull! i mean, i love heros and all, but that was so unecessary and unproffesional!
 
^^yeah, that was total bull! i mean, i love heros and all, but that was so unecessary and unproffesional!

Jeph Loeb must have been away the week that episode was pitched. Or the other comic book writers.

That's lame, man. Now there's gonna be like 20 million Heroes fans whining that Watchmen stole that from Heroes and I'll have to single-handedly pimp-slap every one of them.

Yeah I can't wait for the parade of ignorant fools.
 
most heroes fans (mostly the ones who've never read watchmen) have already heard complaints from people calling the show out on this. they ignorantly claim its not ripping off and seem to have no problem with it. which is crap. i love that show, but that was so uncalled for.

Kring claims to have been unaware of the similarities....but that seems impossible, especially considering jeph loeb is actively involved with the show. someone HAD to of raised concerns about it.
 
Yeah, this is very unfortunate for the Watchmen-production and comPLETELY ******ed! Shame on you writers of Heroes.
If this means yet another delay, a rewriting of the ending or a complete stop on the pruduction I'll go nuts down the local post-office...
 
Heroes stole from Watchmen, Watchmen stole from an Outer Limits episode, big freakin' deal. There's no such thing as an original idea in entertainment anymore. Deal with it.
 
It's troubling, but I don't it'll hurt Watchmen much because, a) it's still just a silly TV show, b) I'm sure many ignorant peons will say how Watchmen ripped off other things as well, for example how Nite Owl and Ozymandias are both rip-offs of Batman (which, in a way, they are, but that's not the point).
 
I heard this film was aiming for the filming to begin this summer, Is that still on?
 

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