🤛 Official UFC Thread - Part 8

[DarthSkywalker]

We definitely follow different people, nobody in my timeline is defending the post-fight stupidity from Khabib.

I just clicked on the Khabib, who is trending:


I'd post more but language.

Also there is apparently video of Conor throwing a punch at Khabib's brother before he got attacked by the other members of Khabib's group. If so, that was dumb on Conor's part.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Khabib doesn’t deserve the payday of a rematch. No one wants to see one of the most exciting strikers ever on the ground for minutes at a time. He could sell Holloway, Ferguson or Woodley more than Khabibs boring ass.

Khabib is the best LW in the world.

 

[killface]

I just clicked on the Khabib, who is trending:


I'd post more but language.

Also there is apparently video of Conor throwing a punch at Khabib's brother before he got attacked by the other members of Khabib's group. If so, that was dumb on Conor's part.

the attack on mcgregor in the octagon seemed like it was planned out by the 3 attackers. And besides, at the end of the fight, Conor looked to gassed out and disappointed to start anything with Khabib or his team

 

[DarthSkywalker]

the attack on mcgregor in the octagon seemed like it was planned out by the 3 attackers. And besides, at the end of the fight, Conor looked to gassed out and disappointed to start anything with Khabib or his team

Well you should really check out the footage.

 

[B]

@DarthSkywalker Have you ever heard the expression two wrongs don't make a right?

A lot of your posts to @Hunter Rider seem to be McGregor did this or McGregor did that so that's why everything that happened post-fight was acceptable.

Also there is apparently video of Conor throwing a punch at Khabib's brother before he got attacked by the other members of Khabib's group. If so, that was dumb on Conor's part.

Nah, the British broadcast panned out to avoid showing the melee, one of them was in front of McGregor throwing up a fighting stance & he then charged McGregor, at the same time one of them bolted over the cage & smacked him in the back of the head, then while those 2 rats were being trailed out by the scruff another one threw another sucker punch at him & the 2 got in a scuffle.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Khabib is the best LW in the world.

No doubt about that, but winning isn’t everything in this sport. Conor will continue to do 1M+ ppv’s while Khabib will headline ESPN cards.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

@DarthSkywalker Have you ever heard the expression two wrongs don't make a right?

A lot of your posts to @Hunter Rider seem to be McGregor did this or McGregor did that so that's why everything that happened post-fight was acceptable.



Nah, the British broadcast panned out to avoid showing the melee, one of them was in front of McGregor throwing up a fighting stance & he then charged McGregor, at the same time one of them bolted over the cage & smacked him in the back of the head, then while those 2 rats were being trailed out by the scruff another one threw another sucker punch at him & the 2 got in a scuffle.

I have no problem saying what Khabib did was wrong. He defended everything Conor did as just being a showman. I also know guys like Conor who talk a lot of this junk, act like big men, and then meet up with actual hard men, and well this is what happens. I have no tears for watching a racists, sexist, homophobic bigot. Like when we see people punch Nazis in the face on the street.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No doubt about that, but winning isn’t everything in this sport. Conor will continue to do 1M+ ppv’s while Khabib will headline ESPN cards.

That's nice. If Conor can't beat Khabib, he is belongs to Conor and that isn't good for promotion.

 

[killface]

Khabib says its a respect sport and not a trash talking sport....

so yeah, he's not really in touch with the modern fight game

 

[DarthSkywalker]

All joking aside, Dana is probably very happy with all this. They needed something to make a rematch worthwhile after Conor was handled in such a manner. Though I just imagined Conor trying to talk trash for the next fight and it coming off as fake hard as ever, it obviously is after he was so overwhelmed by a much better fighter.

 

[B]

I have no problem saying what Khabib did was wrong. He defended everything Conor did as just being a showman. I also know guys like Conor who talk a lot of this junk, act like big men, and then meet up with actual hard men, and well this is what happens. I have no tears for watching a racists, sexist, homophobic bigot. Like when we see people punch Nazis in the face on the street.

So you think Khabib & his team are actual hard men based on their actions after the bout? This is a cultural difference between the US & the UK then because where I'm from, attacking in a mob is not the sign of hard men.. it's the opposite actually.

Would you have had tears for Khabib had the shoe been on the other foot?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So you think Khabib & his team are actual hard men based on their actions after the bout? This is a cultural difference between the US & the UK then because where I'm from, attacking in a mob is not the sign of hard men.. it's the opposite actually.

Would you have had tears for Khabib had the shoe been on the other foot?

I think Khabib took Conor's tactics and showed what happens if someone who can back it up actually pulled them. Which is exactly why that stuff shouldn't be allowed in the UFC in the first place. But Conor being allowed to do this forever. Remember when he jumped out of the cage to get into Jose's face? Well we are seeing someone who isn't going to pose, but actually do something.

If Khabib acted all a racist, sexist, homophobic, bigot, then yes.

I think it is telling how many MMA fighters, boxers and commentators are reacting to this situation in general. Most aren't condoning what Khabib did, but they understand it. Because this is what the UFC has allowed to run rampant from Conor. Someone else turned it on him, and suddenly it's a issue. Here are some examples.






Also considering there is footage of Conor attacking Khabib's corner man apparently before Khabib's team "attacked" Conor, what does that say about Conor there? Was he attacked, or did he attack someone else and get attacked back?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Dave, without defending Khabib, has a pretty decent few tweets on this.


Also if what happened in April was a work, someone needs to tell these guys who cover both MMA and pro wrestling.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Not taking anyone's side here but... Well the memes are already out there.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The memes are fantastic.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Yeah, double standards.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Because Mayweather is the same scum he is.

By the way, here is what the "work" did to an actual human being. The stuff that is okay, because it is, "a part of the show".

Namajunas still traumatized by McGregor attack

No, Mayweather understands the fight game is part of the entertainment business and has been since Muhammad Ali, and really if you are gonna call McGregor and Mayweather scum, which I don't nessicarily disagree with, surely you see Khabib is worse, I mean his 9/11 buddy and gang of goons have no place in sport or entertainment.

That's terrible, and I blame Dana White just as much as he was the one that put that work together IMO, obviously not cluing in anyone else.

See the problem here is you've just went into full slander McGregor mode and now all of Khabib's stuff is ignored, the other huge issue for me is you clearly take everything Conor says as real, to me that's like taking what a movie villain or wrestling heel says as real. Joe Rogan and Chael Sonnen both talked on podcassts lately about how all the young fighters coming through are trying to build personas and say outlandish things purely to get heat and get themselves bigger matches, all copying McGregor who has rode a persona to millions and millions of dollars, it started with them arguing over someone called Colby Covington who apparently needs security at events he's gotten so much heat with his mouth.

All other fighters? I know you haven't watched a lot of MMA, but plenty of fighters don't see this as "show business". Ask Cormier how much show business he feels when it comes to Jones.

Yes, all other fighters, McGregor has done the stuff he did with Khabib with everyone else he's fought, how many of them ended their fights with a handshake and a hug? The reason being they know the pre-fight stuff is just for show, it's not real, and they just earned the biggest payday of their lives, Khabib somehow just couldn't grasp this, because without McGregor how much money does he draw? I'd never heard of him until the bus thing, and I've not watched a UFC fight since Amanda Nunes was the women's champ, but I was sitting there at an ungodly hour last night because McGregor sold this fight for people who don't even care about UFC.

Obviously we have a lot of crossed wires here, the whole British thing was utterly miles off on your part, I'm sure there were more English people wanting McGregor to lose than win, and I wasn't aware Conor attacked a ref, which is disgraceful. The other points of divide is you take what McGregor says seriously, as I said above, I don't, it's an act to sell tickets IMO. You believe he really attacked that bus off his o0wn bat, where I think it was a stunt to hype the fight, one that clearly went badly wrong.

So it comes down to this, if you believe everything is 100% real that you have seen and heard. It's a slur spewing, bus attacking ******* vs an animalistic thug and his animalistic camp of thugs that also contains a 9/11 linked terrorist.........Not much to choose from, the biggest scumbag though? Dana White, he keeps both employed and overlooks everything, in my view also orchestrating a lot of this stuff, because all he cares about is the money. After last night Khabib should have been stripped of the title and kicked out of UFC, if the bus thing was legit, Conor should have been kicked oiut of UFC, what will happen? A December 31st or January 1st rematch that makes even more money.

 

[B]

I think Khabib took Conor's tactics and showed what happens if someone who can back it up actually pulled them. Which is exactly why that stuff shouldn't be allowed in the UFC in the first place. But Conor being allowed to do this forever. Remember when he jumped out of the cage to get into Jose's face? Well we are seeing someone who isn't going to pose, but actually do something.

Why are you playing it off as Khabib just did what Conor did.. but harder & tougher as if it's some sort of dick measuring contest? In what reality attacking people in a mob is considered hard or tough, I don't know.. where I'm from that's usually considered cowardice.

Let's not also brush under the carpet & forget what triggered "Conor's tactics" that Khabib then did harder & tougher apparently. It was Khabib that along with 5 or 6 goons that cornered, threatened & slapped Artem Lobov when he was alone. Then when the same hard, tough gangster that's not a poser according to you was met with the same scenario of being outnumbered by McGregor & his goons he was wasn't such a tough man. It should really be called Khabib's tactics if we want to talk semantics. It's pathetic on all counts & there's nothing big or tough about any of the 3 scenarios from anyone involved.

I think it is telling how many MMA fighters, boxers and commentators are reacting to this situation in general. Most aren't condoning what Khabib did, but they understand it. Because this is what the UFC has allowed to run rampant from Conor. Someone else turned it on him, and suddenly it's a issue. Here are some examples.

Spoiler

Suddenly it's an issue? McGregor & his goon's bus incident was a massive issue & much like this, it's indefensible & inexcusable.

Also considering there is footage of Conor attacking Khabib's corner man apparently before Khabib's team "attacked" Conor, what does that say about Conor there? Was he attacked, or did he attack someone else and get attacked back?

You mean after Khabib his team have already instigated & attacked McGregor's team? You can't attack someone, when you & your people are in the process of being attacked, anything after Khabib left the cage & started the brawl is self defense if any of them came near him.

Khabib leaving the octagon almost seemed like it was orchestrated to some extent to leave McGregor isolated in the cage.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Why are you playing it off as Khabib just did what Conor did.. but harder & tougher as if it's some sort of dick measuring contest? In what reality attacking people in a mob is considered hard or tough, I don't know.. where I'm from that's usually considered cowardice.

Let's not also brush under the carpet & forget what triggered "Conor's tactics" that Khabib then did harder & tougher apparently. It was Khabib that along with 5 or 6 goons that cornered, threatened & slapped Artem Lobov when he was alone. Then when the same hard, tough gangster that's not a poser according to you was met with the same scenario of being outnumbered by McGregor & his goons he was wasn't such a tough man. It should really be called Khabib's tactics if we want to talk semantics. It's pathetic on all counts & there's nothing big or tough about any of the 3 scenarios from anyone involved.

I think Pactrick Wyman and Jordan Breen, put it best:



There is a reason Conor and a dozen people attacked a bus full of people, and then ran away. He does not want any part of that. I don't know if it is full of bad language because of the videos linked in it, but look up Bloody Elbow's, "All the Champion's Men: A look at the shady figures linked to UFC champ Khabib Nurmagomedov." One dude is a poser, the other isn't. Not saying that is a good thing, but it is what it is. One guy tries to act like he grew up and lives in an episode of the Sopranos or the Wire. The other one actually did.

Suddenly it's an issue? McGregor & his goon's bus incident was a massive issue & much like this, it's indefensible & inexcusable.

Except in this very thread Hunter is acting like Conor did nothing wrong. He is excusing it as a part of fight promotion. It's happening in this very thread, has been happening with Conor for a long time. Look at the amount of fighters and journalist pointing out how last night was a natural conclusion to what Conor has been allowed to do.

You mean after Khabib his team have already instigated & attacked McGregor's team? You can't attack someone, when you & your people are in the process of being attacked, anything after Khabib left the cage & started the brawl is self defense if any of them came near him.

Khabib leaving the octagon almost seemed like it was orchestrated to some extent to leave McGregor isolated in the cage.

Have you seen the video? Conor tries to jump out of the ring, and his team or NSAC staff won't let him. So he just starts hitting the guy who jumps up next to him, who isn't even looking at him. Considering how many people were trying to stop Khabib, why do you assume he meant any harm to anyone? It wasn't until Conor hit him that others jumped in the cage to attack him.

This isn't the first time this has happened by the way. It has happened in a Floyd Mayweather fight. Floyd stoo in the corner, waiting for everything to end. Conor did not do that.

 

[legendkillin]

Khabib doesn’t deserve the payday of a rematch. No one wants to see one of the most exciting strikers ever on the ground for minutes at a time. He could sell Holloway, Ferguson or Woodley more than Khabibs boring ass.

Khabib’s style is everything casual fans hate about MMA. I have no desire to see a sequel though I have no idea where Conor goes from here.

Maybe you should watch boxing or just kickboxing. The concept of Mixed Martial Arts seems lost on you. He lost a fight where any style can be used. Casuals like yourself have no reason to say a style is boring if you don't take time to educate yourself.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

I can appreciate how technically sound someone is while calling them boring as hell. Being on the ground for 4 of 5 minutes maintaining top control is boring no matter how much skill it requires.

Anyway, I just wanna say this wasn’t the usual Khabib mauling. It was completely dominant and completely on his terms but Mcgregor did an admiral job defending the majority of the fight. The ground and pound has been much worse Khabib’s previous opponents. Conor’s did a great job minimizing actual damage from the bottom, as his face showed after the fight. Could he make the adjustments to make a more interesting rematch? Probably not.

The most realistic chance of a Khabib losing his 0: Woodley.

 

[Iceman]

I wish the Ferguson Pettis fight hadn’t been affected by broken hands. That was a classic after 2 rounds and I would have liked to see Pettis get another one of those huge hits in and then Johnson recover again and pressure him till the end.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Yeah, Ferguson is scary. He’s like a better Diaz. Doesn’t seem like he can be knocked out and keeps coming forward. I don’t think Mcgregor could take him either.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I can appreciate how technically sound someone is while calling them boring as hell. Being on the ground for 4 of 5 minutes maintaining top control is boring no matter how much skill it requires.

Anyway, I just wanna say this wasn’t the usual Khabib mauling. It was completely dominant and completely on his terms but Mcgregor did an admiral job defending the majority of the fight. The ground and pound has been much worse Khabib’s previous opponents. Conor’s did a great job minimizing actual damage from the bottom, as his face showed after the fight. Could he make the adjustments to make a more interesting rematch? Probably not.

The most realistic chance of a Khabib losing his 0: Woodley.

How often does Khabib finish? And he didn't even get a choke in. He was just squeezing Conor's head and Conor couldn't take the beating anymore.. He broke Conor and then was still ready for another fight.