Superman Returns 100 Things I Learned From Superman Returns

[The Caped Knight]

49. When Lois Lane is in danger.... It's Superman to the resuce .

 

[LadyVader]

50. Nikita now works for NASA!

 

[mego joe]

49. When Lois Lane is in danger.... It's Superman to the resuce .

I wonder who saved her bacon for the 5 years that he was gone?

 

[dark_b]

49. When Lois Lane is in danger.... It's Superman to the resuce .

and in the spiderman movies MJ is always in the final battle.
its a movie

 

[spider-neil]

Really, thats weird considering the opening White House assault in X2 is better than any action scene in any of the Spider-Man movies, and that SR has more heroic, inspiring moments in that one film than any of the Spider-Man movies.



And I find that crazed Spiderman trolls will come to this board solely for the intent of starting trouble. Also, without Superman the Movie, you'd have no precious Spiderman movies to crazily cling to, not to mention STM is a MUCH better movie that the Spider-Man movies, and Raimi seems to acknowledge that with all of the Superman-esque moments in his overrated Spider-Man movies.

the opening sequence is good but PLEASE lets not start comparing singer action sequences with raimi action sequence when the clock tower/train sequence is considered one of THE action sequences of ANY genre let alone comic book movies.

as for being overrated go to rotten tomato and look up the scores for spider-man 1 & 2 and then look up the score for SR.
spider-man is frigging the godfather in comparison.

I DESPARATELY wanted a good superman movie but the movie was limp DULL (SOOO DULL) and just a bad superman the movie clone. ten bucks zod is the villian in SR2

 

[El Payaso]

Spiderman 2 action secquences were the only good thing about any Spiderman movie, yes. What's fair is fair.

 

[Manhunter]

51. The Donner cut of Superman II makes SR a better requel.
52. I appreciate the requel for preserving the spirit of Reeve's performance a hell of a lot better than I expected too.
53. Superman requels are vastly superior to Spider-man rip offs any day of the week.

 

[spider-neil]

51. The Donner cut of Superman II makes SR a better requel.
52. I appreciate the requel for preserving the spirit of Reeve's performance a hell of a lot better than I expected too.
53. Superman requels are vastly superior to Spider-man rip offs any day of the week.

51. in the donner cut superman destroys the FOS yet we see it in SR

52. no comment

53. your opinion.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

51. in the donner cut superman destroys the FOS yet we see it in SR

Well, at the end of the Donner cut Superman turns back time, so the FOS would in fact remain intact. But that doesn't really matter anyway as Superman 2(Lester or Donner cut) is not in direct continuity with SR. Singer and his writers lifted ideas from the movie such as Lex being to the FOS and Superman and Lois having a relationship(not necessarily the way we saw it in Superman 2) and pretty much ignored everything else. This is why Singer uses everyone's favorite two words "vague history" when asked how the first two Superman movies tie in with SR.

 

[buggs0268]

Spiderman 2 action secquences were the only good thing about any Spiderman movie, yes. What's fair is fair.

I and a lot of people also said that the story was good as well. If it had had a bad story, then S2 would not have made the money it had, and there would have not been the repeat viewings it had.

 

[buggs0268]

Then again, when you take both versions the kid would never happen, or have super powers.

In the Donner cut, he reverses time to before Zod and crew break out, so it is even before he and Lois bumped uglies.

In Lester's version, his mortal and so his children would have been mortal too.

 

[spider-neil]

Then again, when you take both versions the kid would never happen, or have super powers.

In the Donner cut, he reverses time to before Zod and crew break out, so it is even before he and Lois bumped uglies.

In Lester's version, his mortal and so his children would have been mortal too.

to be fair that could eaisly be explained away. an explaination could be supes powers were surpressed rather than removed so the 'super gene' was passed on. the latent gene then manifests itself 5 years after the kid is born, had the gene manifested during lana's pregnacy the baby would probably have killed her with it's kicking inside her belly.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Then again, when you take both versions the kid would never happen, or have super powers.

In the Donner cut, he reverses time to before Zod and crew break out, so it is even before he and Lois bumped uglies.

In Lester's version, his mortal and so his children would have been mortal too.

Singer is not using either of these versions though for Superman's previous relationship with Lois. SR implies they had a relationship but not the relationship they had in Superman 2(Lester or Donner cut).

The following exchange is from Stephen Skelton, author of "The Gospel According to the World's Greatest Superhero," and Singer from an interview that was posted on SHH!

Skelton: Gotcha. Yes, from Superman II. And the whole giving up the powers, becoming Clark, being intimate.
Singer: Well, I didn't really stick to that. Y'know, the mylar bed. And the cocktails in the Fortress of Solitude. I wouldn't want to bring that up. All I wanted to reference is they had had a previous, there was some sort of previous relations between them.

link: http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4972

 

[dark_b]

I and a lot of people also said that the story was good as well. If it had had a bad story, then S2 would not have made the money it had, and there would have not been the repeat viewings it had.

i personal think that repeat viewings are when the movie has a lot of action. i think people like to see action in the theater. rather than on teh dvd at home. and i think thats why spidermna makes so much money.

plus it has a right balance between humor,action,love story for a spiderman movie.

but i still think its all about the action. and i dont think that people are because of that dumb.

 

[El Payaso]

I and a lot of people also said that the story was good as well. If it had had a bad story, then S2 would not have made the money it had, and there would have not been the repeat viewings it had.

S2 story was S1 story. Nice guy scientist admired by Peter tries something, goes wrong and ends up being a villiain. And not that the nice guy scientist turning into a villiain because of an experiment going wrong is the most original thing ever. But worse movies have been very successfull before.

 

[dark_b]

S2 story was S1 story. Nice guy scientist admired by Peter tries something, goes wrong and ends up being a villiain. And not that the nice guy scientist turning into a villiain because of an experiment going wrong is the most original thing ever. But worse movies have been very successfull before.

i dont think that this was the main story. i think the main story in 1 was that peter becomea hero.in 2 he doesnt wantto be the hero anymore because he wants a live on hes own.
i think it is enough story for a spiderman movie. it is enough serious and enough funny plus it has superhero action.

 

[Angry Sentinel]

(#50 whatever). Even Superman 'jobs' to needing to make him more interesting to a degraded society.

(#51 whatever). I guess I know why Jesus and Mary got it on in the Davinci Code... how else would we continue the Superman/ Jesus comparisons.

(#51 whatever comes after that). I could enjoy the movie despite it's flaws.

....A 'baby daddy'??? that's huge.

 

[04nbod]

to be fair that could eaisly be explained away. an explaination could be supes powers were surpressed rather than removed so the 'super gene' was passed on. the latent gene then manifests itself 5 years after the kid is born, had the gene manifested during lana's pregnacy the baby would probably have killed her with it's kicking inside her belly.

did i miss something?lana?

 

[Immortalfire]

51. The Donner cut of Superman II makes SR a better requel.
52. I appreciate the requel for preserving the spirit of Reeve's performance a hell of a lot better than I expected too.
53. Superman requels are vastly superior to Spider-man rip offs any day of the week.

Spider-Man ripoffs? Lmao

 

[Manhunter]

Spider-Man ripoffs? Lmao

In Sp2 he gives up his powers for a chance at a normal life, in Sp3 he's going to face off against his dark side, I can't wait for Sp4 when he battles Nucular Man.

Maybe this time we'll get a chance to figure out exacty where he's taking Ms. Warfield to...

CG action sequences aside, Spider-Man movies blow harder than Zod on main street.

 

[echostation]

oh please let's stop comparing Superman with the Spidey films... .both were excellent in their own right and feature some classic story and character arcs and some new fresh takes on different things.... both franchises are solid (at least superman 1 and 2 and to an extent returns)... just enjoy them each and stop bloody comparing them... think of all the relative crap that has come out as well or even just disappointments like Daredevil Theatrical release, Fantastic Four, Elektra and just thank God hollywood didn't mess really really really badly with these two characters to that extent.

 

[Manhunter]

oh please let's stop comparing Superman with the Spidey films... .both were excellent in their own right and feature some classic story and character arcs and some new fresh takes on different things....

Well one had some fresh takes on different things, and the other one follows the formula to a T. But I agree, let's stop comparing the two.

The less I think of the city of New York issuing permits to conduct fusion experiments in a residential zoned brownstone, the better.

 

[El Payaso]

i think it is enough story for a spiderman movie.

That I cannot discuss.

it is enough serious and enough funny plus it has superhero action.

Like every superhero movie.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

The only thing i learned from superman returns..is you can never make a fanboy happy.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

the opening sequence is good but PLEASE lets not start comparing singer action sequences with raimi action sequence when the clock tower/train sequence is considered one of THE action sequences of ANY genre let alone comic book movies.

Considered that by whom? You? That's the problem with the Raimi-obsessed people. They think nothing can be compared to him, and blindly might I add.

as for being overrated go to rotten tomato and look up the scores for spider-man 1 & 2 and then look up the score for SR.
spider-man is frigging the godfather in comparison.

Hardly. That's the definition of 'overrated', ya know? That's when it's MY OPINION that people overrate the movies.

Spiderman 1 and 2 have also been out longer, more people have seen them, and the movies have 'set in' more. I think a lot of people are still on the fence about SR.

I DESPARATELY wanted a good superman movie but the movie was limp DULL (SOOO DULL) and just a bad superman the movie clone. ten bucks zod is the villian in SR2

I'm pretty sure it was said that Zod wouldn't be the villain in 2.