2008 NCAA Football Thread

[Green Lantern]

Now, go Cowboys!

 

[The Game]

Is this really T Tech or some imposters, wow, this display is horrid

 

[Dr. Evil]

Interesting:

Utah is 7th in BCS, Boise State is 9th. Both won today.

 

[Excel]

hahahaha

 

[Green Lantern]

And today fully proves the need for a playoff. Now there are three teams in a tie for the Big XII South title, all of which are heads and tails above the Big XII North champion. All three of them could win the National Championship, but because of the arbitrary system, two of them will get screwed.

 

[U.S War Machine]

The atmosphere was a amazing tonight and the fans. Great win! 65-21

 

[Milkman95]

Didn't see that coming, good stuff........

 

[FaT_tONle]

And today fully proves the need for a playoff. Now there are three teams in a tie for the Big XII South title, all of which are heads and tails above the Big XII North champion. All three of them could win the National Championship, but because of the arbitrary system, two of them will get screwed.

Then don't lose a game? Go figure... but in all seriousness... if the NFL had a tie breaker like this it would come down to strength of victory or something. But because the teams involved played 16 games and already have six or seven losses it's applicable to use a tie breaker like that? You can't have it both ways. Either way... someone is getting the short end of the stick. If it's eight teams then Ball St. would get left out despite running it. Or a one loss Tech would be left out. Sixteen teams and the regular season would be devalued... plus the fact that you are losing money generated from those Bowls. You can't have a twelve or sixteen team playoff that is also compatable with the Bowl schedule.

 

[Green Lantern]

Then don't lose a game? Go figure... but in all seriousness... if the NFL had a tie breaker like this it would come down to strength of victory or something. But because the teams involved played 16 games and already have six or seven losses it's applicable to use a tie breaker like that? You can't have it both ways. Either way... someone is getting the short end of the stick. If it's eight teams then Ball St. would get left out despite running it. Or a one loss Tech would be left out. Sixteen teams and the regular season would be devalued... plus the fact that you are losing money generated from those Bowls. You can't have a twelve or sixteen team playoff that is also compatable with the Bowl schedule.

Because the other divisions of college football are SO hurt by having playoffs and not bowl games. And if you want to keep the bowls, its simple. Have each game of the playoffs be a bowl game. If you had a playoffs you would be able to avoid the controversy that could arise after the SEC championship game: Say Florida wins against Alabama? They'll be playing for the BCS title, their one loss coming AT HOME, to UNRANKED Ole Miss. Whereas you have three teams in the Big XII: Oklahoma's one loss came at NEUTRAL ground to a top five team. Texas's one loss came AWAY to a top five team. Texas Tech's one loss came AWAY to a top five team. Notice a trend there? Lets take examples from other levels of the sport; In the NFL you have wildcard spots in the playoffs, do you not? Last season, the Giants finished 10-6, with a loss to the undefeated Patriots. If the NFL had a BCS system they would have been playing for the Holiday Bowl. Instead, they got shots at three of the teams that had already beat them. They took out Tampa Bay first, then knocked out a team that had beaten them twice; the Cowboys; and then beat the Packers who had also already beaten them. That set us up for what became the most memerable Super Bowl in recent history. Not because the Patriots did what at least one college team a year usually does and go undefeated, no because the underdog won, beating yet another team that they had lost to. Thats the beauty of a playoff system is that a loss in the season doesn't kill your hopes and dreams. Playing bad for a single game early in the year won't kill you. If the 2007 Giants aren't enough for you, lets go back ten years. The year is 1997. That year you had wonderchild Brett Favre, coming off his third consecutive MVP award and fresh from a Superbowl XXXI victory over the Patriots. Come playoff time it appeared the title was theirs to lose again, at 13-3. But then you had the 12-4 Broncos. The team had been heavily favored the previous year before losing to Jacksonville in the first round of the playoffs. They made the 1997 playoffs as a wildcard, and their first hand at task was to embarrass the team that had beaten them the previous year. Next up was a divisional rival that had supplied one of their losses. They won on enemy turf to get the chance to play another team that had beat them in the regular season. They beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh to advance to the Superbowl against Favre's Packers. They won the first of two consecutive Superbowls that year.

Other teams that have won the Superbowl as wildcard teams:

1980 Oakland Raiders - 12-5 - losses to San Diego, Buffalo, Kansas City (Home), Philadelphia, and Dallas (Home) - Playoff wins against: Houston, Cleveland (Away), San Diego (Away), and Philadelphia (Neutral)

2000 Baltimore Ravens - 12-4 - losses to Miami, Washington, Tennessee (Home), and Pittsburgh (Home) - Playoff wins: Denver, Tennessee (Away), Oakland (Away), New York Giants (Neutral)

2005 Pittsburgh Steelers - 11-5 - losses to New England (Home), Jacksonville (Home), Baltimore, Indianapolis, and Cincinnati (Home) - Playoff wins: Cincinnati (Away), Indianapolis (Away), Denver (Away), and Seattle (Neutral)

By your reckoning none of those teams deserved a second shot at the teams who had beat them. Hell by your reckoning, the 1998 Denver Broncos didn't deserve their second Superbowl because they had two losses in the regular season to Minnesota's one. But when it came playoff time, the Broncos avenged their loss to the Dolphins (38-3 fashion) and then took down the team that beat the Vikings when it mattered (Falcons, 34-17), but if it were BCS we would have had a Miami and Minnesota matchup instead.

 

[Immortalfire]

By Dan Wetzel from Yahoo Sports...

NORMAN, Okla. – College football’s leadership has hatched plenty of harebrained ideas in its annual quest to ruin the national championship chase.

The one that promises to derail the season of either Oklahoma or Texas, which, you might recall, actually beat the Sooners last month, might be the most bizarre

The Big 12 South champion could be determined by a poll of faceless, feckless and too often partisan voters far from these windswept plains.

Only a sport with such a profound lack of leadership, in this case Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe, could descend into a cross between figure skating and “American Idol.”

The Big 12 failed to come up with enough of its own criteria for breaking a three-way tie at the top of the standings, as Oklahoma, Texas and Texas Tech could produce. Instead it was willing to punt to the computers and voters who determine the BCS rankings. Whatever team is ranked highest wins the division.

Among the problems: Few of the coaches who vote in the coaches’ poll have seen anything but snippets of play from the league. They are no better than the 114 politically connected folks of various qualifications and attention spans who make up the Harris Poll. Combined, the two polls count for two-thirds of the rankings.

Each voter has personal biases, constituents to answer to and self-interests.

Since the BCS has no set standards for ranking teams, just about anything can be taken into consideration.

Should Texas get the nod because it beat Oklahoma? Should it be Oklahoma because it put together the most impressive performance of the season in blasting Tech 65-21? Should Tech be considered because a voter likes its coach?

How about strength of schedule? Or margin of victory? Coolest mascot? Color scheme? Does it matter who’s played the most recent TV game?

What if a voter missed one team’s impressive performance because he went fishing? A voter’s alma mater has been known to come into play. And doesn’t he owe the conference that got him a vote in the first place? What about the coach who’s still bitter about losing a recruit to a certain school?

It could be any of the above. No one knows.

Seriously, that’s the system: no one knows.

And, apparently, no one cares. At least when it comes to the Big 12 leadership, who unwilling to set its own rules just turned over the crowning of a champion.

Look, there is no good way to pick between three potentially 11-1 teams. Head-to-head doesn’t work since Oklahoma defeated Texas Tech, Texas Tech defeated Texas and Texas defeated Oklahoma.

It would be nice if the Big 12 at least manned up and tried though. The NFL will take the tie-breaking criteria to the bitter end. The Big Ten will penalize any team that plays an opponent from the old Division I-AA. Others favor strength of schedule.

Anything is better than outsourcing the decision, which is why confusion and chaos reign.

Entering this weekend Tech was ranked No. 2, Texas No. 4 and OU No. 5. The Sooners must leapfrog UT to have a future. (Tech, due to the severity of this loss is considered out of the mix.)

So there was OU coach Bob Stoops going for it on fourth down with 41-point lead. There were Texas officials back in Austin texting Longhorn propaganda to reporters in Norman during the third quarter.

There was Stoops, normally reserved and humble, looking uncomfortable as he politicked away his team’s loss to Texas.

“If you can’t move us in front of Texas because they beat us, then you have to keep Texas Tech in front of Texas,” Stoops campaigned. “If it’s logical for one, then it’s logical for the other.”

Fine, if you can’t put anyone ahead of anyone, then why put OU ahead of Texas?

“Because [of] how we’re playing right now,” he said. “We just beat the No. 2 team in the country, one of the few teams that was undefeated. Now we’re in the mix with everybody and, with the way we played, you would think ahead [of them].”

Does that make sense? Texas won its last game, at Kansas, 35-7. That doesn’t count as not playing well enough?

Tech coach Mike Leach, who along with Mack Brown (but not Stoops), has a vote, and said he’d put OU ahead of Texas.

Leach’s opinion is Leach’s opinion, which in this system is all that matters. He doesn’t have to explain or apologize. He can vote any way he dang pleases.

Everyone can, which is why this is such folly and why the Associated Press no longer allows its media poll to be included. Sportswriters would be no better. You can’t have the subjective determine the objective and call yourself a legitimate enterprise.

The BCS responded by culling the Harris Poll and giving them the ultimate power. It features a mish-mash of backgrounds. There are former players, former coaches, media members and assorted “others.”

The qualifications and commitments of each vary widely. While many are undoubtedly good selections, others raise doubts.

One voter hails from a tiny radio station in Louisiana, another from the website dedicated to East Carolina. One is a retired sports information director; another currently works for the PGA Tour. One guy is famous for crazy selections.

A couple of years ago a New York Times reporter tracked down a Harris voter at a construction site. The interview began after the voter laid down his jackhammer.

No one knows how much any of them pay attention to anything.

And since each conference selects a slate of voters, allegiance to said league (and its interests) is natural.

College football is no longer just about having the best coaches, players and schemes. It’s also about having the best political operatives.

It’s bad enough this determines the national championship matchup. That it now decides a division championship is a case of the tail wagging the dog, an illogical system overtaking the regular season as well.

Maybe Texas should hire Barack Obama’s advisor David Axelrod for the rest of the season because it might be in trouble due to a scheduling quirk. Next week Oklahoma will have another big nationally televised opportunity to impress voters against highly ranked Oklahoma State. The Longhorns, meanwhile, seem like the team everyone forgot.

Sure they beat Oklahoma straight up. But since the Big 12 has ceded control to outside factions, who knows if that’s enough? Who knows what counts and what doesn’t?

Who knows anything, really, except this is one screwed up way of doing business.

 

[Mister J]

Let the complaining, lobbying and vented disgust begin.

AP Top 25
1. Alabama (63)
2. Florida (2)
3. Oklahoma
4. Texas
5. USC
6. Penn State
7. Texas Tech
8. Utah
9. Boise State
10. Ohio State
11. Oklahoma State
12. Missouri
13. Georgia
14. TCU
15. Ball State
16. Cincinnati
17. Oregon State
18. Georgia Tech
19. Oregon
20. Boston College
20. Brigham Young
22. Michigan State
23. Florida State
24. Northwestern
25. Ole Miss

USA Today Poll
1. Alabama (56)
2. Oklahoma (4)
3. Florida (1)
4. Texas
5. USC
6. Penn State
7. Utah
8. Texas Tech
9. Boise State
10. Ohio State
11. Missouri
12. Oklahoma State
13. Georgia
14. TCU
15. Ball State
16. Cincinnati
17. Oregon State
18. Oregon
19. Brigham Young
20. Northwestern
21. Michigan State
22. Boston College
23. Georgia Tech
24. Florida State
25. West Virginia

 

[Immortalfire]

Ole Miss is ranked..good for em

 

[Badger]

The Heads of the Big 12 are a bunch of freak'n tools. Not only did they **** this up, they have continually screwed up how Big12 teams are televised.

 

[Immortalfire]

The Heads of the Big 12 are a bunch of freak'n tools. Not only did they **** this up, they have continually screwed up how Big12 teams are televised.

Big 12: "We have a 3 way tie for the southern divison. Uhh...let's let a computer and a bunch of suits decide! Yeah, that'll work great! t:

 

[FaT_tONle]

Because the other divisions of college football are SO hurt by having playoffs and not bowl games. And if you want to keep the bowls, its simple. Have each game of the playoffs be a bowl game.

Did you really have to write an essay about why we need a playoff in college football... like we haven't heard it all before... but what the heck is the point in having Bowls that serve as a first round in a playoff? Why go through the bull **** traveling and scheduling like that. It's such a ridiculous idea using the Gaylords Music City Hotel Bala Wala bowl as a first round matchup. It defeats the purpose of Bowls, and that is something the presidents will never go for. Now what you COULD do is play the first round the last week of the season... move everything back one week. That's something I wouldn't be opposed too... but if you start the playoffs during that Holiday week there is no way such a system would be compatible with the Bowls.

If you had a playoffs you would be able to avoid the controversy that could arise after the SEC championship game: Say Florida wins against Alabama? They'll be playing for the BCS title, their one loss coming AT HOME, to UNRANKED Ole Miss. Whereas you have three teams in the Big XII: Oklahoma's one loss came at NEUTRAL ground to a top five team. Texas's one loss came AWAY to a top five team. Texas Tech's one loss came AWAY to a top five team. Notice a trend there?

Yeah... Florida wins their conference with one loss... they deserve to be in there... period. Alabama doesn't. That's why they call it the SEC Championship. As far as the Big 12 South... it's a mess. But this doesn't happen often. No way you can make an arguement for Tech with what happened in Norman last night. As far as tie breakers... more than enough common games to add up the style points. All Texas had to do was play a decent defensive series on Tech's last possession and we wouldn't even be talking about this.

Lets take examples from other levels of the sport; In the NFL you have wildcard spots in the playoffs, do you not? Last season, the Giants finished 10-6, with a loss to the undefeated Patriots. If the NFL had a BCS system they would have been playing for the Holiday Bowl. Instead, they got shots at three of the teams that had already beat them. They took out Tampa Bay first, then knocked out a team that had beaten them twice; the Cowboys; and then beat the Packers who had also already beaten them. That set us up for what became the most memerable Super Bowl in recent history. Not because the Patriots did what at least one college team a year usually does and go undefeated, no because the underdog won, beating yet another team that they had lost to. Thats the beauty of a playoff system is that a loss in the season doesn't kill your hopes and dreams.

I'll go the other way... the trash of a playoff system is having a 9-7 or 10-6 team get in there and be able to get hot at the right time and win three straight games to get into a Superbowl over a 14-2 team. That's the NFL. This is college football. Best regular season of any sport. A sixteen team playoff and all that goes out the window.

Playing bad for a single game early in the year won't kill you. If the 2007 Giants aren't enough for you, lets go back ten years. The year is 1997. That year you had wonderchild Brett Favre, coming off his third consecutive MVP award and fresh from a Superbowl XXXI victory over the Patriots. Come playoff time it appeared the title was theirs to lose again, at 13-3. But then you had the 12-4 Broncos. The team had been heavily favored the previous year before losing to Jacksonville in the first round of the playoffs. They made the 1997 playoffs as a wildcard, and their first hand at task was to embarrass the team that had beaten them the previous year. Next up was a divisional rival that had supplied one of their losses. They won on enemy turf to get the chance to play another team that had beat them in the regular season. They beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh to advance to the Superbowl against Favre's Packers. They won the first of two consecutive Superbowls that year.

Why are you talking about the NFL?

Other teams that have won the Superbowl as wildcard teams:

1980 Oakland Raiders - 12-5 - losses to San Diego, Buffalo, Kansas City (Home), Philadelphia, and Dallas (Home) - Playoff wins against: Houston, Cleveland (Away), San Diego (Away), and Philadelphia (Neutral)

2000 Baltimore Ravens - 12-4 - losses to Miami, Washington, Tennessee (Home), and Pittsburgh (Home) - Playoff wins: Denver, Tennessee (Away), Oakland (Away), New York Giants (Neutral)

2005 Pittsburgh Steelers - 11-5 - losses to New England (Home), Jacksonville (Home), Baltimore, Indianapolis, and Cincinnati (Home) - Playoff wins: Cincinnati (Away), Indianapolis (Away), Denver (Away), and Seattle (Neutral)

By your reckoning none of those teams deserved a second shot at the teams who had beat them. Hell by your reckoning, the 1998 Denver Broncos didn't deserve their second Superbowl because they had two losses in the regular season to Minnesota's one. But when it came playoff time, the Broncos avenged their loss to the Dolphins (38-3 fashion) and then took down the team that beat the Vikings when it mattered (Falcons, 34-17), but if it were BCS we would have had a Miami and Minnesota matchup instead.

Impressive research... wrong thread though... you don't like having a regular season where there are absolutely no meaningless games... I can't help you. It just happens to be different.

With all that said... I could live with an eight team playoff... but the first step is a plus one. The fact is... there will more than likely always be a an undefeated mid major or one loss BCS conference team that gets left out. That's life. More teams than eight and it's not college football anymore.

 

[Green Lantern]

Yeah... Florida wins their conference with one loss... they deserve to be in there... period. Alabama doesn't. That's why they call it the SEC Championship. As far as the Big 12 South... it's a mess. But this doesn't happen often. No way you can make an arguement for Tech with what happened in Norman last night. As far as tie breakers... more than enough common games to add up the style points. All Texas had to do was play a decent defensive series on Tech's last possession and we wouldn't even be talking about this.
I'll go the other way... the trash of a playoff system is having a 9-7 or 10-6 team get in there and be able to get hot at the right time and win three straight games to get into a Superbowl over a 14-2 team. That's the NFL. This is college football. Best regular season of any sport. A sixteen team playoff and all that goes out the window.

One could make the argument that that is EXACTLY what Florida is doing now. They lost to a mediocre team, early in the season, with enough time to get hot enough to backdoor their way into the national championship.

Why are you talking about the NFL?

Because its the most comparable and well known to compare. I could dig up research on FCS Subdivision champions if you really want, since they have had a playoff forever.

Impressive research... wrong thread though... you don't like having a regular season where there are absolutely no meaningless games... I can't help you. It just happens to be different.

I don't want a meaningless regular season, I'd just rather they didn't sacrifice the post season for that purpose. BCS has resulted in controversy more often than not, and more often than ANY playoff system ever has.

With all that said... I could live with an eight team playoff... but the first step is a plus one. The fact is... there will more than likely always be a an undefeated mid major or one loss BCS conference team that gets left out. That's life. More teams than eight and it's not college football anymore.

You don't want more than an 8 team playoff but you're fine with 68/117 teams making bowl games? Thats more than half the field that get into the post season. But 12 or 16 is too many. Dear god, what would happen?!? *gasp*

--- On to more 'relevant' comparison ---

College Football Championship Subdivision (Formerly Division I-AA)

Currently has all the magic feeling of CFBS schools (trust me I've been in the atmosphere of one of those schools) do they have bowl games? Not a one. This year they have a 16 team playoff. Next year they have a 20 team playoff.

In 1998 the University of Massachusetts was the 11th seed out of the 16 teams, with an 8-3 record. They went on to beat Georgial Southern 55-43 to win the title that year. Current threepeating champion Appalachian State had an 8-3 record the first of the three years they've won. By BCS standards neither of those teams would have even made a meaningless BCS bowl game, let alone the title game. Appalachian State won last year, but also had the third best record in the Division, even though they beat a ranked team from the division above them early in the season (sorry Wolverine fans).

 

[FaT_tONle]

One could make the argument that that is EXACTLY what Florida is doing now. They lost to a mediocre team, early in the season, with enough time to get hot enough to backdoor their way into the national championship.

Back door their way??? They'd be tied for best record among BCS conference teams... don't be a fool.

Because its the most comparable and well known to compare. I could dig up research on FCS Subdivision champions if you really want, since they have had a playoff forever.

That's great...

I don't want a meaningless regular season, I'd just rather they didn't sacrifice the post season for that purpose. BCS has resulted in controversy more often than not, and more often than ANY playoff system ever has.

With sixteen teams... two loss teams will get in. Three loss teams would probably get it. That means second opportunities despite losing key games during the season.

You don't want more than an 8 team playoff but you're fine with 68/117 teams making bowl games? Thats more than half the field that get into the post season. But 12 or 16 is too many. Dear god, what would happen?!? *gasp*

Once again... Bowl games are not intended to be playoff games. They give schools that had decent years one game to generate revenue for their schools/conferences. A playoff that eliminates those Bowls would leave a lot of teams empty handed despite having a decent season.

--- On to more 'relevant' comparison ---

College Football Championship Subdivision (Formerly Division I-AA)

Currently has all the magic feeling of CFBS schools (trust me I've been in the atmosphere of one of those schools) do they have bowl games? Not a one. This year they have a 16 team playoff. Next year they have a 20 team playoff.

In 1998 the University of Massachusetts was the 11th seed out of the 16 teams, with an 8-3 record. They went on to beat Georgial Southern 55-43 to win the title that year. Current threepeating champion Appalachian State had an 8-3 record the first of the three years they've won. By BCS standards neither of those teams would have even made a meaningless BCS bowl game, let alone the title game. Appalachian State won last year, but also had the third best record in the Division, even though they beat a ranked team from the division above them early in the season (sorry Wolverine fans).

Once again you fail to acknowledge that college football (Division I-A) is simply different. They want the entire season to be taken into account. They do not want 9-3 or 8-4 teams to get hot at the end and win everything. And I prefer at least one sport out there to take that into consideration.

 

[FaT_tONle]

BCS standings

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Oklahoma
4. Florida
5. USC
6. Utah
7. Texas Tech
8. Penn State
9. Boise State
10. Ohio State

Texas should get in the title game regardless of what OU does the rest of the season. Might be a problem if the Longhorns lose in the Big 12 Championship though.

 

[Immortalfire]

Texas should get in the title game regardless of what OU does the rest of the season. Might be a problem if the Longhorns lose in the Big 12 Championship though.

If Texas gets in even if they didn't win the Big 12, I will kill every last person involved with the Bull Crap Series.

 

[FaT_tONle]

If Texas gets in even if they didn't win the Big 12, I will kill every last person involved with the Bull Crap Series.

I said the same thing the last page or two of this thread... don't know if you are messing with me... but we agree. HAVE to take USC if that happens... I'll admit that would be the worst BCS debacle since 2003 with LSU/USC splitting it... however... the AP has OU ahead so they can still finish first in the AP poll if Alabama loses and we'd get another split title. That would at least be somewhat fair. Word is the Sooners will leapfrog Texas with a win over OSU anyhow.

 

[Green Lantern]

Back door their way??? They'd be tied for best record among BCS conference teams... don't be a fool.

Backdoor in the way that their one loss came early and to a much worse team than say, Texas's or Oklahoma's or Texas Tech's.

With sixteen teams... two loss teams will get in. Three loss teams would probably get it. That means second opportunities despite losing key games during the season.

What you don't seem to understand is that the regular season is not MEANT to be a playoff type situation. Not any other sport has it so that you are pretty much eliminated from competition with a single loss, or all but done with two losses. You say making a playoff would make for a meaningless regular season, I say that it would only be 'meaningless' for that handful of powerhouse teams that have the scope, recruitment and luck to win every game every year. For that team that can't manage that it makes the regular season more meaningful. Say you have a team thats already lost two games, what do they have to play for? The Motor City Bowl? Drop down to that next level of the same sport, you have a three loss team four weeks into the season. That team is still playing for a shot at a National Championship, not just the chance to play midnight to someone elses Cinderella story.
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Once again you fail to acknowledge that college football (Division I-A) is simply different. They want the entire season to be taken into account. They do not want 9-3 or 8-4 teams to get hot at the end and win everything. And I prefer at least one sport out there to take that into consideration.

Once again, after a loss in week 4 (and again, to a team that ABSOLUTELY should NOT have beaten them, especially in GAINESVILLE) the Florida Gators are doing just that. They got hot at the end of the season, and they are favorites to overcome Alabama and play for the Crystal Football.

 

[U.S War Machine]

BCS standings Texas should get in the title game

 

[Trainwreck2100]

If Texas gets in even if they didn't win the Big 12, I will kill every last person involved with the Bull Crap Series.

If OU loses to OSU then #7 Tech plays for the Big 12 title, so UT could theoretically be #2 and not even play in their championship game.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Backdoor in the way that their one loss came early and to a much worse team than say, Texas's or Oklahoma's or Texas Tech's.

The loss did come to bad team... but the bottom line is... they won the biggest games on their schedule. They are more than deserving of being in there. Makes no sense taking two teams from the same conference. I hope these voters and computers are using NFL like tie breakers to decide the Big 12 South. If that's the case I really don't have a problem with FLA getting in over a Big 12 South runner up.

What you don't seem to understand is that the regular season is not MEANT to be a playoff type situation. Not any other sport has it so that you are pretty much eliminated from competition with a single loss, or all but done with two losses. You say making a playoff would make for a meaningless regular season, I say that it would only be 'meaningless' for that handful of powerhouse teams that have the scope, recruitment and luck to win every game every year. For that team that can't manage that it makes the regular season more meaningful. Say you have a team thats already lost two games, what do they have to play for? The Motor City Bowl? Drop down to that next level of the same sport, you have a three loss team four weeks into the season. That team is still playing for a shot at a National Championship, not just the chance to play midnight to someone elses Cinderella story.

If the mid majors are complaining... then why are they taking these deals that expand the BCS field? They have no one else to blame but themselves. These schools are content with having a better shot at merely getting into a BCS bowl and getting their payday... it comes down to that. The fans care more about national titles than the schools do. Whether that's right or wrong... I'll leave that up to you.

Once again, after a loss in week 4 (and again, to a team that ABSOLUTELY should NOT have beaten them, especially in GAINESVILLE) the Florida Gators are doing just that. They got hot at the end of the season, and they are favorites to overcome Alabama and play for the Crystal Football.

I don't know how winning eight or nine straight games constitutes as getting hot at the very end like these NFL teams in December. It's a good arguement... but you can't tell me a team that wins the second best conference in CF that has the same record as everybody else doesn't belong in that title game. That's all there is too it.

 

[Immortalfire]

My favorite Huskers fan ever..Superman79 is back!! t: