2009 NFL Thread

[BlackLantern]

watching Real Sports this morning...saw an interesting piece on the new head of the NFLPA, DeMaurice Smith....interesting stuff...didn't know he was a United States Attorney and a Washington power broker....he's a fan though, which is different

 

[Caped Crusader]

Get better Shockey.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/24/jeremy-shockey-hospital/

 

[Alex The Great]

God I hope Vick stays out of the NFL, that ****er did **** that's disgusting and cruel. The NFL may be the No fun league, but it's also the No **** allowed league. Beat his ass, hammer

 

[Wiseman]

God I hope Vick stays out of the NFL, that ****er did **** that's disgusting and cruel. The NFL may be the No fun league, but it's also the No **** allowed league. Beat his ass, hammer

I hope Vick comes back and plays on your favorite team.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Really, why should he not be allowed? I understand that football players often become role models for children, and I absolutely detest what he did, but the dude served his time and has been dealt his punishment. Why should we keep punishing him and keep punishing him? He's been out of the league two years now- due to jail time, no less- let him work his own way back in. I'm an animal lover, especially of dogs (I have four of my own), but Vick has been accused, tried, and sentenced. He's finished with his sentence now, let him get past it.

Seriously, how would you feel if you'd been arrested for statutory rape or some other sex crime, and you got insults and punishment everywhere you went? You wouldn't say to yourself, "I deserve that," you'd say, "I've faced my punishment, I'm not going to do it again, let it go." As cruel of an act as he's committed, he's still human, and we have to empathize at least a little.

 

[StorminNorman]

I would rather have Michael Vick on my team, a man that served his debt to society, than Pac Man Jones.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Seriously, especially since Pac Man has proven he's much more of a detriment to his actual teammates than Vick ever was.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Being an avid Steelers fan, I have to admit...

I know the Steelers organization is probably one of the most character-driven teams in the NFL in terms of personnel and decision making (I.e., they're very strict on their players not being *****ebags or distractions, and they get rid of those who become one, no matter how good he might be, like Plaxico Burress and Joey Porter)... With that said, I think it'd be a great triumph and lesson for Michael Vick to join the Steelers organization. I think a team like that could keep him in line and force him to keep his act straight (Mike Tomlin, especially, seems like an all-business, take-no-**** type of coach).

In addition that, what made the Steelers so exciting to watch during their Super Bowl XL run and performance was their dynamic trick plays- usually using Antwaan Randle El. I think Mike Vick would absolutely flourish in this way, and I'd like to see the Steelers bring in someone who can bring that element back to as much use as it was back when they won Super Bowl XL.

Just an idea.

 

[Dark Donnie]

Anquan Boldin-WR-Cardinals May. 26 - 2:16 pm et

Anquan Boldin has fired agent Drew Rosenhaus, according to ESPN's Mike Sando.

We usually hear about players switching to Rosenhaus, not away from him. Boldin is displeased with the progress of his trade demand and contract talks. Rosenhaus said in a statement that he wants to keep Boldin and hopes that Q "can return to the Rosenhaus Sports family in the near future."

Source: ESPN.com

 

[Go Web Go!]

Ha!

 

[Mister J]

Drew, how do feel about this?
Next question!

 

[Wiseman]

I hate Drew Rosenhaus, he's like a cross between jay mariotti and the villian from billy madison

 

[Go Web Go!]

I hate Drew Rosenhaus, he's like a cross between jay mariotti and the villian from billy madison

"Eric is pregnant!"

 

[Alex The Great]

A part of me wants The Patriots to get Vick, The Hood would give him all types of hell, plus Tom Brady is probably going to be not as good as usual early in the season. If Tom gets injured, They are screwed. They don't have any good backups...

 

[BlackLantern]

Really, why should he not be allowed? I understand that football players often become role models for children, and I absolutely detest what he did, but the dude served his time and has been dealt his punishment. Why should we keep punishing him and keep punishing him? He's been out of the league two years now- due to jail time, no less- let him work his own way back in. I'm an animal lover, especially of dogs (I have four of my own), but Vick has been accused, tried, and sentenced. He's finished with his sentence now, let him get past it.

Seriously, how would you feel if you'd been arrested for statutory rape or some other sex crime, and you got insults and punishment everywhere you went? You wouldn't say to yourself, "I deserve that," you'd say, "I've faced my punishment, I'm not going to do it again, let it go." As cruel of an act as he's committed, he's still human, and we have to empathize at least a little.

**** no we don't....Ive never bankrolled and provided facilities for a criminal enterprise...nothing would make me happier if Vick spent the rest of his days chained to a desk for 40 hrs a week...Im not saying he shouldn't make a living, but he should not be allowed the privilege of making an extravagant paycheck

 

[Mister J]

In Rosenhaus' defense, I'd like to list some of his good points that might change public opinion here:

• he enjoys collecting superhero figs/statues (I think a number of us can identify)
• he's never represented Brett Favre

... that's all I got.

 

[Mister J]

A part of me wants The Patriots to get Vick, The Hood would give him all types of hell, plus Tom Brady is probably going to be not as good as usual early in the season. If Tom gets injured, They are screwed. They don't have any good backups...

How would signing Vick change that?

 

[Wiseman]

In Rosenhaus' defense, I'd like to list some of his good points that might change public opinion here:

• he enjoys collecting superhero figs/statues (I think a number of us can identify)
• he's never represented Brett Favre

... that's all I got.

Yeah well Brett Favre is only one annoying football player. Rosenhaus represents T.O., Ocho Cinco, Plaxico Burress and any other problem player you can think off so that negates it I'd think. Plus everytime he's on tv something about his face makes me want to punch him........like, really hard

 

[BlackLantern]

you're all mad at someone, that 99.9 percent of the time, is really good at his job

 

[StorminNorman]

**** no we don't....Ive never bankrolled and provided facilities for a criminal enterprise...nothing would make me happier if Vick spent the rest of his days chained to a desk for 40 hrs a week...Im not saying he shouldn't make a living, but he should not be allowed the privilege of making an extravagant paycheck

He shouldn't be allowed the privilege of risking his health and his future entertaining millions of fans for an owner that will make more money from Vick than he will ever pay him?

That privilege?

On Q dumping Rosenhaus, good move by Q. Q has said he would accept a contract under 10 Mil a year, the Arizona Cardinals offered Rosenhaus an offer worth 8 Mil a year at least twice, even though Rosenhaus has said Arizona has not made any reasonable offer. I expect this move will mean Q will get his contract in Arizona soon.

 

[Wiseman]

you're all mad at someone, that 99.9 percent of the time, is really good at his job

I'm not mad at him, I just don't like him. There's a difference

 

[Cunning Stunts]

**** no we don't....Ive never bankrolled and provided facilities for a criminal enterprise...nothing would make me happier if Vick spent the rest of his days chained to a desk for 40 hrs a week...Im not saying he shouldn't make a living, but he should not be allowed the privilege of making an extravagant paycheck

My point is though, while at first I was quick to want to think the same way, you've got to realize that the dude has paid his dues. Honestly, how would you feel if you've legitimately made a change in your life after being punished for doing something wrong, and people still held it against you every single place you go. Again, I'd have to go with the 99.99% chance that you wouldn't say, "I deserve it," you'd say, "I've changed, let it go." There was also no clause in his contract that said, "Don't kill dogs," so I don't see why the NFL should get involved for any reason other than the fact that he was in trouble with the law (which likely is in his contract)- not why he had a run-in with the law- and he should be punished accordingly along with the other players who have had run-ins with the law.

That said, why can't these past two years be punishment enough for him? Not only did he miss thirty-two games of potential playing time, he also had to sit in jail. As much of a *****ebag as I think he is for doing such a despicable thing, he's paid his debt to the community, and still plans on helping out the Humane Society. He's doing his work to redeem himself, so let the guy play.

 

[BlackLantern]

The NFL has a personal conduct policy and the NFL is acting accordingly, they are reserving any action until all the legal issues are resolved and that's the correct thing to do

The Humane Society crap is a smokescreen, way deep down Vick doesn't really believe he did anything wrong....he is just going to go through the motions (apologize, do a PSA, etc) because he got caught

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Can you prove that, though? We have no other option than to take what he says or does at its face value until he proves otherwise.

I stated clearly I know they have a conduct policy, but I sincerely doubt that they have a list of suspensions according to their exact crimes- most likely, it's more along the lines of, "Run-in with the law: _ games; Conviction _ games; etc."

 

[StorminNorman]

The NFL has a personal conduct policy and the NFL is acting accordingly, they are reserving any action until all the legal issues are resolved and that's the correct thing to do

The legal issues are resolved...he is out of prison.

The Humane Society crap is a smokescreen, way deep down Vick doesn't really believe he did anything wrong....he is just going to go through the motions (apologize, do a PSA, etc) because he got caught

I disagree. I think Vick has changed, or at least will give him this benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.