2009 NFL Thread

[StorminNorman]

I hope Moreno breaks out the Stafford Jersey in season.

 

[Immortalfire]

He'd get flagged.

 

[StorminNorman]

It would be worth it.

If I was NFL Commissioner, touchdown dances would be rewarded. 100-500 dollar bonus checks based on quality per celebration.

 

[Excel]

^Seriously. All those excessive celebration flags did was kill the fun.

Nate Davis, Ramses Barden, LeSean McCoy are all legit. I cant believe Harvins danced was that dumb. Morenos was great (as is his jersey).

 

[StorminNorman]

Stafford destroyed Sanchez as well.

 

[Excel]

Staff gets props for originality.

 

[RAMORE]

Rookies get jiggy with it..

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This was cool some of those are really funny Of course those upper deck people shouldn't be teasing them they won't be able to do any of that

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I can count at least a dozen of them that will never so much as sniff the end zone in a regular season game.....

I'm looking at YOU Nate Davis.......

 

[NotFadeAway]

This is random, but can someone explain to me why Michael Oher fell so far in the draft after coming into the season rated as the top OT in the draft? I liked what I saw out of Oher more so than Eugene Monroe and Jason Smith. Monroe just seems soft and Smith needs to be in a zone blocking scheme. Oher has the build and athleticsm of a pure Left Tackle, he is a nasty drive blocker in the run game, started for two years at LT for Ole Miss, works hard, and has passion. Might not be the brightest bulb in the socket but good coaching can do wonders for anybody.

And, I think Andre Smith has the ability to be the best tackle taken if he can mature up. Eben Britton is also on my list of steals because I see alot of upside not just as a RT, but as a LT.

 

[SurfDUI]

I can count at least a dozen of them that will never so much as sniff the end zone in a regular season game.....

I'm looking at YOU Nate Davis.......

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Staff gets props for originality.

Yea he does
I was feena say If Moreno didn't win that jersey

 

[SurfDUI]

Man...35hunderd posts and the kickoff is damn near a summer away.
Maybe this thread should be called 2009 NFL Thread-The Offseason.

 

[Immortalfire]

Norman already tried that, and was denied.

:absolute power:

 

[BlackLantern]

I hear the new Cowboys stadium is a hovercraft

 

[StorminNorman]

This is random, but can someone explain to me why Michael Oher fell so far in the draft after coming into the season rated as the top OT in the draft?

Preseason rankings are about as meaningful in the draft as they are in deciding who wins the national championship. They are all based on projections, projections can be - and more often than not are - wrong.

Michael Oher, physically, was the most naturally gifted tackle in the draft. His technique was sloppy and he arguably underperformed.

I liked what I saw out of Oher more so than Eugene Monroe and Jason Smith.

How many Baylor or Virginia games did you watch?

Monroe just seems soft and Smith needs to be in a zone blocking scheme. Oher has the build and athleticsm of a pure Left Tackle, he is a nasty drive blocker in the run game, started for two years at LT for Ole Miss, works hard, and has passion. Might not be the brightest bulb in the socket but good coaching can do wonders for anybody.

Oher has all the ability in the world, but I disagree completely about Monroe. Eugene Monroe kept Brandon Albert, first round pick in 2008, inside at left guard - he was a successful rookie left tackle in the NFL. You can't play left tackle that well by being soft. Eugene Monroe was the most polished LT in the draft.

Smith's system at Baylor does lend himself, initially, to a zone blocking scheme. What helps him, however, is his intelligence and pure athleticism. Smith is far more athletic than Michael Oher, and as a left tackle going against speed rusher, athleticism is vital.

And, I think Andre Smith has the ability to be the best tackle taken if he can mature up. Eben Britton is also on my list of steals because I see alot of upside not just as a RT, but as a LT.

Going to the same team as Monroe, Britton will likely never get the chance to prove himself at LT. I question if Britton is athletic enough to play LT in the Pro Game.

Man...35hunderd posts and the kickoff is damn near a summer away.
Maybe this thread should be called 2009 NFL Thread-The Offseason.

Norman already tried that, and was denied.

:absolute power:

Let it be said that StorminNorman is the people's champion.

My platform is simple: 5 threads dedicated the NFL (Draft, Off season, Regular Season, Playoffs and Off the field/Business) and a thread dedicated to Sports video games.

 

[signalman]

Fran Tarkenton BLASTS Brett Favre. t:

http://www.frantarkenton.com/?m=200905

 

[FaT_tONle]

Tarkenton also blasted Eli indirectly... on that NFC Championship... he's like, "Had it been Peyton (Farve) lost to that's fine... but it was Eli..." How many Superbowls have you won again Fran?

 

[Immortalfire]

Let it be said that StorminNorman is the people's champion.

My platform is simple: 5 threads dedicated the NFL (Draft, Off season, Regular Season, Playoffs and Off the field/Business) and a thread dedicated to Sports video games.

I will not have you flooding my forum with such silliness as off season, and off the field business.

You'll get the one thread that covers the season, playoffs and off season combined and like it. Talking separately about the draft is fine, and I make the Super Bowl thread.

So says me.

 

[BlackLantern]

and you'll like it

 

[SurfDUI]

I will not have you flooding my

Man damn...your slip is showin'.
add another line.

 

[Immortalfire]

Surf is blind to the word forum.

 

[BlackLantern]

I don't get it, and even if I did....it wouldn't be funny

 

[RAMORE]

Here's an intersting article about the Bucs QB situation:

Bucs' weakness: Quarterback

May 28, 2009 11:00 AM

Posted by Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson

Quarterback is the most important position on the field and right now, I just don't see a great option for the Buccaneers in 2009. Of course, Josh Freeman could grab this job by the throat and go on to have a long, successful career, but right now he is a very raw prospect in terms of footwork, decision-making and ability to read and manipulate defenses. A year on the bench would do Freeman -- and the Buccaneers -- a lot of good for the long term.

Scouts Inc.: Weaknesses
• AFC: South | East
• NFC: North | South


That leaves Byron Leftwich (whom I expect to win this job), Luke McCown, Josh Johnson and Brian Griese, who probably will be the odd man out before getting involved in the preseason competition. There is plenty for new coach Raheem Morris to choose from, but none of these quarterbacks gets me excited for the immediate future.


Cliff Welch/Icon SMI
Veteran Byron Leftwich is the likely front-runner to be the Bucs' starter at quarterback.
To the Bucs' credit, they have an excellent offensive line. It rarely gets mentioned as one of the best lines in the league, but I expect that to change this season. This young and very talented group is on the verge of coming together and excelling as a unit. That and the addition of running back Derrick Ward will provide Tampa Bay with a formidable rushing attack. The running game should take plenty of pressure off whoever wins the quarterback job.

Not only should there be a strong running game in place, but the short-to-intermediate pass options also should be formidable. Ward excels in this department, and adding Kellen Winslow, a big, sure-handed target, also should help the starting quarterback quite a bit.

Still, you can't hide the quarterback in the NFL, and for Tampa Bay to compete in a very difficult division, one of these quarterbacks has to play well. I am betting on Leftwich to win the job. McCown has tools, but he is more inconsistent, takes too many risks and is lacking on game experience, with only 238 passing attempts.

Leftwich has a big arm and is very tough. He takes care of the football much better than McCown and obviously has more experience. But his faults are substantial as well. Leftwich has a very long delivery that allows opposing defensive backs time to get to the ball and exposes the ball during his delivery to pass-rushers much more than the ordinary quarterback's release. He also is immobile and takes an awful lot of big hits in the pocket. Leftwich has never played 16 games in a season. Lastly, his accuracy is far from ideal; he has eclipsed a 60 percent completion percentage (60.5 percent in 2004) only once in his career. There is a reason why few teams knocked on his door the past two times he was on the open market.

While Winslow is a fine addition for what he can bring on the field, the mixture of him and Antonio Bryant, Tampa Bay's top wide receiver, is potentially combustible if the quarterback play is substandard. While wildly talented, both of these players have been known to publicly voice their displeasure about how things are going on the field. And both players want the ball in their hands.

Who knows? Maybe Freeman pulls a Joe Flacco and manages the offense in his rookie year while displaying physical tools that few quarterbacks in this league have. But Flacco had an elite defense to keep every game close. I have little faith in Tampa Bay's once-very proud defense to keep just about every contest close. The Buccaneers' offense is going to have to score points and a fair amount of those points are going to be attributed to who is delivering the football. Therein lies the problem.

Scouts Inc. watches games, breaks down film and studies football from all angles for ESPN.com.




Also they are saying the bucs are looking at Harrison but I think that would be a horrible idea he'll want too much money.

 

[kane9321]

No comments on vince young?

 

[Go Web Go!]

I found a couple of his comments yesterday to be straight-up laughable:

1. He said he wants to "pick up where I left off." Does that count the first 2 games of the 2008 season or are we going back a couple of years here?

2. He said that if he wasn't going to get playing time then he's going to have to make a career decision, that there's a team out there that would give him that time. Vince, uh, that's not up to you.

 

[Excel]

I have a feeling Young will be back in sooner than he thinks.