2011/2012 NBA Thread : A Season Reborn - Part 1

[Immortalfire]

I just saw NBA standings..and the Bobcats have only won 3 games. The Wizards have 7 wins, the Hornets 5.

How can any team be that bad?

 

[Poeman]

I just saw NBA standings..and the Bobcats have only won 3 games. The Wizards have 7 wins, the Hornets 5.

How can any team be that bad?

Philadelphia 76ers 9-73 1972-73

 

[Raiden]

I just saw NBA standings..and the Bobcats have only won 3 games. The Wizards have 7 wins, the Hornets 5.

How can any team be that bad?

Jordan should just fire himself as a GM and hire a real one to do the job. He may be a HOFer but when it comes to personnel decisions, he is terrible. Jordan is like the Smush Parker of GMs.

 

[steintym]

Jordan's track record in management is not good ... to say the least. Time to hand the decision making over to someone else.

His stint in DC was nothing exciting either.

 

[Hound55]

I think any player who did what Lin did for a big market team like the Knicks would get the same kind of attention. Especially when the team was blowing the season.

I do think being Asian helps though. Seeing all the Asian fans in Toronto getting excited for Lin should speak to that.

I'd agree with this.

And comparing what Lin has done in five games, to what Flip Murray did which was basically just put up points in bunches, is kind of insulting.

The guy came in to a disjointed Knicks team and straightened them out... and got them playing a composed offence. What Lin has done has been greater than what's shown up next to his name in the box score.

 

[Doc Samson]

I'd agree with this.

And comparing what Lin has done in five games, to what Flip Murray did which was basically just put up points in bunches, is kind of insulting.

The guy came in to a disjointed Knicks team and straightened them out... and got them playing a composed offence. What Lin has done has been greater than what's shown up next to his name in the box score.

And those statements right there are why this whole situation is becoming maddening. How can you say he "straightened" out the Knicks? They beat the Nets, Wolves, Raptors, Jazz, Wizards, Lakers & have the Kings tonight? Are you kidding me?! These are all mediocre to terrible teams! If he does his thing against the Heat or the Bulls, OKC or one of the upper echelon teams, I'll be the first one in here waving the flag, I promise.

But let's be real here, there's a host of horrible teams in the NBA, plenty of which that could probably stand to be contracted TBH with you. How in the world can you say the offense is "composed" when the guy is averaging around 8 turnovers against this level of competition? Caulderon was doing whatever he wanted to until they put Shumbert on him, how in the hell is this going to fly against the few good teams he has yet to play?

Furthermore, the Flip Murray comparison is definitely warranted, he came out of nowhere when Ray Allen got injured and scored 20 or more in his first 10 games, and they were winning alot of them as well. The reason it didn't register was because it was a small market number one, and number two there wasn't some type of racial dynamic to capitalize off of and make money, which the Knicks are doing as we speak. Let's not act like this is a new occurrence, it happens all the time in sports, why is it degrading Lin to speak about it now, when it's painfully obvious? When's the last time you saw so many Asian people at a Raptors game of all places? Not saying its wrong or right, but let's acknowledge that it's the main reason for this level of attention. It certainly can't be from beating bottom feeders...

 

[steintym]

I find the story interesting because I find it amazing when someone slips through the cracks with so much time, resources and money dedicated to scouting. Obviously scouting isn't an exact science, but damn it's amazing when someone seems to come out of nowhere.

I think the Tebow comparisons are crap. Lin's story reminds me more of someone like Victor Cruz.

 

[Raiden]

And those statements right there are why this whole situation is becoming maddening. How can you say he "straightened" out the Knicks? They beat the Nets, Wolves, Raptors, Jazz, Wizards, Lakers & have the Kings tonight? Are you kidding me?! These are all mediocre to terrible teams! If he does his thing against the Heat or the Bulls, OKC or one of the upper echelon teams, I'll be the first one in here waving the flag, I promise.

But let's be real here, there's a host of horrible teams in the NBA, plenty of which that could probably stand to be contracted TBH with you. How in the world can you say the offense is "composed" when the guy is averaging around 8 turnovers against this level of competition? Caulderon was doing whatever he wanted to until they put Shumbert on him, how in the hell is this going to fly against the few good teams he has yet to play?

Furthermore, the Flip Murray comparison is definitely warranted, he came out of nowhere when Ray Allen got injured and scored 20 or more in his first 10 games, and they were winning alot of them as well. The reason it didn't register was because it was a small market number one, and number two there wasn't some type of racial dynamic to capitalize off of and make money, which the Knicks are doing as we speak. Let's not act like this is a new occurrence, it happens all the time in sports, why is it degrading Lin to speak about it now, when it's painfully obvious? When's the last time you saw so many Asian people at a Raptors game of all places? Not saying its wrong or right, but let's acknowledge that it's the main reason for this level of attention. It certainly can't be from beating bottom feeders...

Doc, I get what you're saying, but before Lin was made a starter, the Knicks (with their "big three" of Melo, Amare, and Chandler) had lost to the following teams: Warriors, Raptors, Bobcats, Suns, Bucks, and Cavs, as well as other top teams. Yes, Knicks are having a softer schedule right now, but even when they face a mediocre team doesn't mean it's an automatic victory for them, if you look at their past losses. I don't know if Lin will turn out to be the next Steve Nash or just a flash in pan, but one thing for certain: the Knicks won't be winning 6 straight games if Lin wasn't given the opportunity to be the starter on this team.

 

[CConn]

I don't get why the Asian thing is important.

Yao Ming already taught us that Asians can play basketball.

 

[Darthphere]

I don't get why the Asian thing is important.

Yao Ming already taught us that Asians can play basketball.

Well yeah they can play basketball....but can they play it well? Lin is showing us it's possible, at least for a 6 game stretch.

 

[Poeman]

I don't get why the Asian thing is important.

Yao Ming already taught us that Asians can play basketball.

They dont teach 7 ft 6inches

 

[CConn]

I was being sarcastic.

 

[Darthphere]

I'm pretty sure they teach 7 ft 6 inches in China. And by teach I mean they torture you by stretching your body to ridiculous lengths with weak feet.

 

[The Apocalypse]

For people still doubting Lin because of the teams they are playing, just stop. That's a horrible argument.

 

[steintym]

BTW - Where did the new Memphis uniforms come from? They look ridiculous.

 

[enterthemadness]

Better question, what is a Lin, why were ladies talking about him on The View, and why was I watching it?

 

[Paroxysm]

For people still doubting Lin because of the teams they are playing, just stop. That's a horrible argument.

I know, look at the Raptors game, he had so many turn overs but came through when it mattered. It's not how you start, it's how you finish.

 

[Anubis]

BTW - Where did the new Memphis uniforms come from? They look ridiculous.

Those are throwbacks to......I don't know, when the Generals (you know, that team that the Globe Trotters beat the s**t out of all time time?) used to operate out of Memphis. Yeah. That'll work.

 

[enterthemadness]

Pax, don't give the Lakers any hope of making the playoffs with that "It not how you start" stuff. I demand a Playoffs with no Lakers, stuff that in you mail box, ESPN.

 

[Poeman]

Lin had an excellent game facilitating with some amazing passes. He barely looked for a shot and the Knicks blew out the Kings by the end of the 1st quarter

 

[Lobo]

13 assists in 26 minutes

 

[steintym]

Those are throwbacks to......I don't know, when the Generals (you know, that team that the Globe Trotters beat the s**t out of all time time?) used to operate out of Memphis. Yeah. That'll work.

Works for me ... Your explanation, not those uniforms. The uniforms are awful.

 

[The Apocalypse]

I know, look at the Raptors game, he had so many turn overs but came through when it mattered. It's not how you start, it's how you finish.

And the games before that we were playing without Stat and Melo. With the exception of Chandler and Lin all those starters should be coming off the bench, Fields included. So don't give me "we beat crap teams." Its bball, the most straight forward sports around. You either know how to play or you don't. This kid knows how to play, he's the best play maker we've had in a while.

 

[Anubis]

Works for me ... Your explanation, not those uniforms. The uniforms are awful.

I think the problem lies in them being baggy like today's uniforms. Give em some nut huggers, some tube socks, and some of them Kareem goggles, and they might look kinda awesome.

 

[steintym]

Now you're talking