2011/2012 NBA Thread: Where Weather Happens

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Where does everyone sit on LeBron right now?

I was a huge fan from his draft day up to "The Decision."

I would probably still follow him intently if not for The Decision and the pep rally. Free agents move on, it's a part of the league but you don't need to make an event out of it nor do you have a light and smoke show before you've won anything.

The constant criticism does seem to be overboard though. It almost makes me want to start rooting for him again.
 
Well The Decision was the NBA's idea and that pep rally was the franchise idea. None was LBJ idea at all so he cannot get blamed for that. All he did was agree to those things and it really did no harm to nobody.
 
Personally, I wasn't disappointed with the spectacle of the Decision, just the decision itself, to willingly go to another superstar's team, when he was still in his prime. I felt it took something away from the league (and also when Melo did it) because it's better to have multiple teams in contention, in particular small markets. It's what makes the NFL what it is, the parity of talent.

On a deeper level, I felt that Lebron took something away from himself and the fans from a competitive standpoint. 3 rings in Miami will never mean the same as just 1 in Cleveland, and the fact is, if people look at it clearly, his Heat team isn't much better than what he had there the last three years anyway. There's no guarantee they'll win anything, and if that's the case, it'll be a monumental mark on his legacy.
 
Well The Decision was the NBA's idea and that pep rally was the franchise idea. None was LBJ idea at all so he cannot get blamed for that. All he did was agree to those things and it really did no harm to nobody.

The Decision was Lebron's idea not the NBA's he bought the block of time from ESPN. That's why Jim Grey, who has no affiliation with the NBA or ESPN did the interview.
 
Personally, I wasn't disappointed with the spectacle of the Decision, just the decision itself, to willingly go to another superstar's team, when he was still in his prime. I felt it took something away from the league (and also when Melo did it) because it's better to have multiple teams in contention, in particular small markets. It's what makes the NFL what it is, the parity of talent.

On a deeper level, I felt that Lebron took something away from himself and the fans from a competitive standpoint. 3 rings in Miami will never mean the same as just 1 in Cleveland, and the fact is, if people look at it clearly, his Heat team isn't much better than what he had there the last three years anyway. There's no guarantee they'll win anything, and if that's the case, it'll be a monumental mark on his legacy.

The worst part is that he said this a few years earlier:

It’s also important to me to make the team I’m on now the best. I don’t want to go ring-chasing

Sometimes when I'm watching the Heat I feel that the better team would have been James staying in CLE and Bosh joining him.
 
The worst part is that he said this a few years earlier:

It’s also important to me to make the team I’m on now the best. I don’t want to go ring-chasing

Sometimes when I'm watching the Heat I feel that the better team would have been James staying in CLE and Bosh joining him.

I agree. People like to point to their record that first season he left, but they also lost Shaq, Varaejao was hurt, Mo Williams was in and out with injuries until he was traded along with Moon, Jamison was hurt, so was Parker, Big Z was gone, I mean the whole entire team was decimated in addition to him leaving. He had a solid team built around his game, a bunch of spot up shooters he could kick out to when driving the ball, and decent defenders/rebounders to secure the misses and start the fast breaks.
 
LeBron was being an idiot during the entire season leading up to the Decision. He was constantly making tongue in cheek remarks about opting out. I thought it was pretty disrespectful to the Cavs fans that their star was already talking about leaving town while he was still in uniform.
 
I agree. People like to point to their record that first season he left, but they also lost Shaq, Varaejao was hurt, Mo Williams was in and out with injuries until he was traded along with Moon, Jamison was hurt, so was Parker, Big Z was gone, I mean the whole entire team was decimated in addition to him leaving. He had a solid team built around his game, a bunch of spot up shooters he could kick out to when driving the ball, and decent defenders/rebounders to secure the misses and start the fast breaks.

Yeah LBJ had good role players in Cleveland, he just did not have the mentality to lead a team. Bosh should of joined him in Cleveland, only person that should of left was Mike Brown. I think Byron Scott would of def done a way better job in Cleveland had it been the LBJ squad.
 
The Decision was Lebron's idea not the NBA's he bought the block of time from ESPN. That's why Jim Grey, who has no affiliation with the NBA or ESPN did the interview.

I'm pretty sure that Jim Gray is still involved with ABC/ESPN, he at least was during that time.
 
Good to see the refs aren't biased like in the other Heat series.

"Come on Eddie!"
"TECHNICAL"
 
If we were playing anyone else he wouldn't have gotten that Tech.
 
Okay maybe it's not because of the Heat but you CANNOT deny that shouldn't have been called a technical.
 
Didn't Mister J say if anybody starts in with that conspirezzzeee s**t he was gonna ban em?
 
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It pains me to think about Boston this year without all of the injuries.
Green,Bradley,Wilcox all could have made a difference in this game.
 
Boston looked old. Well, except for that bastard, Garnett. :argh:
Didn't Mister J say if anybody starts in with that conspirezzzeee s**t he was gonna ban em?
It was more rid of the thread of the particularly thick-skulled, but hey, tomato-tomahto if it comes down to it.

As an aside, if Ed Malloy was suddenly given the rest of the postseason off, I'd be for it. He's not biased. He's clueless.
 
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