24: Live Another Day - Part 2

[Arrowshieldfan]

the conversation between Jack and Audrey on the phone seem to be a foreshadow on her death........at least she won't have to suffer through her husband committing treason

 

[Deserana]

You're damn right, I couldn't have said it better myself. Especially regarding the ticking clock. No other show makes me antsy over the ending. Like, the final break will happen and it will be like, "4:51" and I will get nervous and be like "Nine minutes left! What can happen!?!? Who is going to die! Blargh! I don't want it to end!"

Exactly! I love the fact you sorta know what's gonna happen but still expect something else. For example in S5 near the beginning with the airport hostage situation when you see them about to execute people you know Jack can't do **** as it would take him 5 minutes to get down there so would take 5 minutes storytime whereas in any other show the hero could magically appear in seconds. Or if Jack is 10 minutes away in a car and the villain has a gun to someones head you know they aren't gonna get there in time and makes it so hard to watch!

I was remember first time watching S7 and Jack sends someone to lure a terrorist out he says he'll be a mile away and I remember thinking "Nooooo that means you'll be at least 5 minutes getting there!!!" The real time situation makes you reassess the stakes like no other show.

I actually prefer it being broken up. I think a continuous villain has potential to get repetitive. How many episodes in season 4 were Jack almost catching Habib Marwan only to have him barely slip away at the last second. I think if they do go continuous villain, they need to be very careful to plan it all out in advance to avoid such ridiculousness.

I agree with that I just mean that maybe we know who the big bad is behind it all but maybe Jack and co don't and the other villains you'd normally get in a typical 24 season are still there except we know who the main guy is. It could flesh out the bad guy. If they rush the bad guy in for the last few episodes it's hard to feel like they're any different to the other schmucks Jack's been dealing with.

I don't think Tony would do it. Not after Jack deprived him of his vengeance. Plus, I think rescuing Jack would cheapen his sacrifice. Jack gave himself up to protect Chloe and Kim. He doesn't want anyone he loves looking over their shoulders anymore. He doesn't want the shadow over them, that they can be used to get to him. This buys their security. I think if Jack is going to get out, he'd have to help the Russian government and cut a deal. I think that could actually be a fantastic season, that is especially relevant.

The writers used drones this year, which are incredibly relevant on the global political landscape. What else is? Russia. Jack forming an uneasy alliance with them could be outstanding. This is a country that (in the show) just tried to start WWIII for their own advantage. Yuri Suvarov is a character dying to be explored (he is clearly a stand-in for Vladimir Putin and Putin in the 24-verse could be amazing). I think a lot could be done with Jack working for the Russians to earn his freedom.

I would love this. It would be a really fresh interesting angle that could lead to Jack being free which would make a great last season. The only issue I'd have is it would feel VERY different. It would have to be essentially all new characters aside from Jack as we'd mainly deal with Russians and it would be a different US President as there's no way Heller would still be it (was he still President at the end of LAD?). And there's no way of bringing back Chloe really and she's gotta be there DAMMIT!

For me, 24 is my absolute favorite television show of all time. And I've seen a ton of amazing, truly astonishing shows. To me, 24 trumps The Wire, Breaking Bad, Lost, OZ, Six Feet Under, the first 4 seasons of Dexter, and Nikita. 24 is the first tv show to truly blow me away continuously and and keep me on the edge of my seat nearly every episode. I even remember the exact moment where it became my favorite show of all time: Season 3 when Jack assassinated Chapelle--I.was.freaking. FLOORED. I couldn't believe I was watching a television show; I had never seen a hero, or anti-hero for that matter, go to such lengths to do what needed to be done to save his country.

Yeah it's definitely my favorite show. If I say some TV snobs scoff and wave their True Detective/Breaking Bad/Sopranos DVDs in the air but nothing comes close to 24. It just seems like people see it too much as mainstream Michael Bay TV action schlock when their is so much more. I have a few friends who for some reason sees it as brainless action crap having never seen an episode and just bits and pieces. But if anyway ever asks me if I could recommend a show I always reply with "Have you seen 24?". The only issue is on rewatch S1 can be quite slow and dated.

 

[kguillou]

Eh, I'm leaning to the idea that Tony had something chemically wrong with him. Severe depression or maybe a tumor or something that made him do what he did, and while in prison, he was able to sort it all out. Tony was too good of a character to go out the way he did, and now is the time for the writers to redeem him. And besides, there were rumors that one of the producers was seen having dinner with Carlos Bernard. People were speculating of them working out some sort of an agreement or contract. Would be great if those rumors came true.

Tony did some near reprehensible things in season 7 but I truly believe that the old Tony is still there and he can be redeemed.

 

[Deserana]

Eh, I'm leaning to the idea that Tony had something chemically wrong with him. Severe depression or maybe a tumor or something that made him do what he did, and while in prison, he was able to sort it all out. Tony was too good of a character to go out the way he did, and now is the time for the writers to redeem him. And besides, there were rumors that one of the producers was seen having dinner with Carlos Bernard. People were speculating of them working out some sort of an agreement or contract. Would be great if those rumors came true.

Jon Cassar said in an interview that he loves working with Carlos Bernard and they're good friends (obviously could just be producer shtick) so I'm sure if they can figure out a way to do it they will.

I can't see how they would it would sorta ruin his character if they made him good again. I'd just think they'd spend his character arc with a is-he-bad/isn't-he-bad sort of thing. However, this bluray extra that involves Tony could prove otherwise.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Incredible finale! Jack and Belcheck infiltrating the ship was badass and I thought the way they played with Audrey's death was really well done, although I immediately thought "second shooter" when we saw Kate walking her back to her car.

Kate phoning Jack to tell him while she knew he was in the middle of a mission to stop WWIII was ridiculous but it acted as a trigger for some awesome action and Jack finally giving Cheng what he's had coming for over a decade via a conveniently placed Samurai sword!

Heller's bittersweet comments about his Alzheimers helping him past the pain of Audrey's death was so emotional, yet they popped it with Jack sacrificing himself for Chloe and that amazing little exchange as they passed each other for the exchange. What I loved was that Jack still had an awesome threat ready for the Ruski!

I hope this isn't the end but then again I never expected Jack Bauer to have a happy ending, so what will, will be. This mini series event surpassed all expectations for me and there still isn't a character on TV that comes close to Jack Bauer!

 

[Hunter Rider]

I don't think Tony would do it. Not after Jack deprived him of his vengeance. Plus, I think rescuing Jack would cheapen his sacrifice. Jack gave himself up to protect Chloe and Kim. He doesn't want anyone he loves looking over their shoulders anymore. He doesn't want the shadow over them, that they can be used to get to him. This buys their security. I think if Jack is going to get out, he'd have to help the Russian government and cut a deal. I think that could actually be a fantastic season, that is especially relevant.

The writers used drones this year, which are incredibly relevant on the global political landscape. What else is? Russia. Jack forming an uneasy alliance with them could be outstanding. This is a country that (in the show) just tried to start WWIII for their own advantage. Yuri Suvarov is a character dying to be explored (he is clearly a stand-in for Vladimir Putin and Putin in the 24-verse could be amazing). I think a lot could be done with Jack working for the Russians to earn his freedom.

Absolutely agreed, while a covert team of Kate, Belcheck and Chloe trying to rescue Jack sounds cool, it would not honor his sacrifice, unlike Luke they need to heed Yoda!

The only way Jack will ever stop the Russians from coming after him is if he can broker a deal, he has his pardon in the US., now he needs to clear up the mess with the Russians and there's no point in escaping as he'd just be back on the run. I definitely think if there is one more day....hey! there's an idea for a title! Then it will be Jack's quest to get in the black with Russia so he can go home.

 

[Donut]

Or Russia gives Jack a mission or two that they consider important but Jack will only do it with people he trusts & they can bring in Kate, Chloe & Russian guy & that will be Jacks ticket home & while Chloe is around she can dig for evidence maybe that she can use against the Russians. Or I can imagine Chloe spending her days looking for anything as evidence to use against the Russians to get Jack back & them off of their back. I guess we will be left wondering if Heller ever wondered what happened to Jack

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

maybe for season 10, Kate and Chole set up a private military firm.....that tackles covert operation recruting military personal, former CTU, FBI, and CIA agent dedicate to rescue Jack and other struck in a foreign nation....I think for the last season 10, there should be no govenment agencies because there is always a mole......they can still be but only a minimal role

 

[kvz5]

Agreed. I can see the Russians needing Jack for something and if Jack does it, the Russians will back the eff off.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

Agreed. I can see the Russians needing Jack for something and if Jack does it, the Russians will back the eff off.

so basically the Russian offering to let Jack go if he do their dirty work for them probably as a assassin

 

[Donut]

maybe for season 10, Kate and Chole set up a private military firm.....that tackles covert operation recruting military personal, former CTU, FBI, and CIA agent dedicate to rescue Jack and other struck in a foreign nation....I think for the last season 10, there should be no govenment agencies because there is always a mole......they can still be but only a minimal role

Jack just saved London & stopped World War 3. Even if Heller is no longer the President. The U.S. Government would have to recognize that. Or at least that CIA base that Jack helped out with. Its safe to say that as far as the U.S. Government is concerned. Jack Bauer cleared his name simply due to his actions. Because no terrorist traitor would come out of hiding & do what Jack did. Even Mark recognized that Jack was not who the Government said he was. Surely if the London & U.S. Governments found out about Jack being with the Russians. Something would be done

 

[antsman41]

Jack would never work for the enemy, being undercover is one thing but willingly fighting for the bad guy so he can live isn't Jack's MO.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

Jack just saved London & stopped World War 3. Even if Heller is no longer the President. The U.S. Government would have to recognize that. Or at least that CIA base that Jack helped out with. Its safe to say that as far as the U.S. Government is concerned. Jack Bauer cleared his name simply due to his actions. Because no terrorist traitor would come out of hiding & do what Jack did. Even Mark recognized that Jack was not who the Government said he was. Surely if the London & U.S. Governments found out about Jack being with the Russians. Something would be done

I guess if the US govt find out what happen to Jack in Russia.......I would think they would rescue him but I think Moscow demand a prisoner swap but too similar to season 6

 

[kvz5]

so basically the Russian offering to let Jack go if he do their dirty work for them probably as a assassin

Not necessarily. It could be something related to national/international security.

 

[flickchick85]

I don't think Tony would do it. Not after Jack deprived him of his vengeance. Plus, I think rescuing Jack would cheapen his sacrifice. Jack gave himself up to protect Chloe and Kim. He doesn't want anyone he loves looking over their shoulders anymore. He doesn't want the shadow over them, that they can be used to get to him. This buys their security. I think if Jack is going to get out, he'd have to help the Russian government and cut a deal. I think that could actually be a fantastic season, that is especially relevant.

The writers used drones this year, which are incredibly relevant on the global political landscape. What else is? Russia. Jack forming an uneasy alliance with them could be outstanding. This is a country that (in the show) just tried to start WWIII for their own advantage. Yuri Suvarov is a character dying to be explored (he is clearly a stand-in for Vladimir Putin and Putin in the 24-verse could be amazing). I think a lot could be done with Jack working for the Russians to earn his freedom.

I love the sound of this!

Ya know, Jon Cassar may have been doing his best to shut down all the "next season" talk over the last month or so every time he was asked, but another EP Manny Coto's most recent response to the inquiry of more seasons was, "Well, all it really takes is a story that fires us up.” That's about the most encouraging response we could hope for at this juncture, I'd say. And for the record Matt, I totally think your story would be enough to fire them up. Get on it, writers! t:

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Let's hope those guys are reading this stuff, because that's their storyline right there. Cassar is just playing coy, I'm expecting an announcement of some sort at the 24 panel at SDCC.

 

[kguillou]

Yeah. From what I hear this is Fox's second highest rated show next to American Idol, I would think Fox definitely wants more 24 next year.

 

[Deserana]

Just came across this http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s9...e-isnt-a-next-instalment.html#~oKbbyktfi8Hpn9

Something that I thought was interesting was

We need to just get away for a month so we can all just catch our breath again and be human beings again, because you're just in such a heightened state when you shoot the show. And then we can start talking about if there's going to be another 24

So it seems like there will be meetings in a few months? I mean it's gotta be sooner rather than later. Kiefer isn't getting younger. Cassar also said they may touch on Jack's age if they are to bring it back.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Kiefer still looks damn good, I'd argue he looks just as good as he did in season 8.

 

[JP]

Bingo. As such, I am content with the writers and Keifer coming back as often as they'd like. They will always be welcome in my living room.

Always.

 

[afan]

Love this season.......
Anyone else mention...Was Jack contemplating suicide after Kate's call re. Audrey's death?....if so why?

 

[Tim_Riggins]

For a second, I had my doubts but that's not who Jack is, it's probably misdirection, you just kept waiting for that moment to come when he was gonna go berserk.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

Love this season.......
Anyone else mention...Was Jack contemplating suicide after Kate's call re. Audrey's death?....if so why?

the suspicion of Jack entertaining the thought was brought up earlier in some posts...

 

[runawayboulder]

You could argue that Jack basically committed suicide by turning himself over the Russians.

 

[afan]

You could argue that Jack basically committed suicide by turning himself over the Russians.

My thought exactly........which makes the "deal with the Russians" theory sort of irrelevant........unless a development makes it necessary for Jack to chose to "survive".