28 weeks later

Two things annoyed me:

The husband/father had access to the military part of the safe zone. I know he ran the water, heat, etc. but seriously, why would they give him an all access card like that to areas where he clearly had no need to be in?

The soldiers were leaving to kill the wife after they learned she was infected. Where was the detour? Why did it take them so long to get to little room where she was? You would think they would have someone guarding her if they knew she was infected.


First of all.... (this is just speculation on my part )

I think because if there was a break down in some sort of heating or water in any section, ie military section, he would be needed to fix it, and they had no reason to think he would do what he did, so why wouldn't he have a key if he more or less ran the place?

and secondly, we don't really know how far from the room they were...i mean is it really a big deal to you? Honestly? Thats a conceit you have to take with movies sometimes....and they didn't actually know she was infected and a carrier when she came back, it was only when they realised that they decided to terminate her. She was in quarentine, and it's not like they knew she was a full fledged virus carrier, untill it was too late

and ten million actually sounds pretty good...Im assuming this wasn't that much more expensive than the first, so it sounds pretty promising to me...
 
Saw this last night. Liked it a lot. I really felt sorry for the mom. She went through some s**t. :csad:
 
Like Hammerhedd11 said, 28 Weeks Later made $10 million this weekend. In comparison, the first film opened with $10 million (in the US) as well. It went on to make $82 million worldwide. Maybe the sequel will have legs and good word of mouth, like the first film. I'd love to see a '28 Months Later' :up:
 
The fact of the matter is they weren't spreading it. Britian had less then 50,000 people in it at the start of the movie and thats including military personel. Anyone that could have been infected was in that area during the breakout, seeing as all civilians were contained in sector 1.

What they were spreading was death and destruction, and they were just as destructive as what they intended to stop. There were numerous instances where they tried to kill people that they KNEW WERE NOT INFECTED.
"Oh but they tried only targeting the infected," yeah, in one ****ing scene(and even in that scene, simply saying "well it's getting too tough so lets not even try" is hardly the right attitude in a crisis); again that does not excuse numerous other scenes where that OBVIOUSLY were not infected were striving desperately not be murdered by a government that relied on mindless brute force, the same thing they were attempting to stop. Again, they compounded errors, they fixed none.
They indeed did the right thing...according the bizzaro definition of 'right.'
There's a big difference between a necessary sacrifice, and a mindless slaughter.
 
First of all.... (this is just speculation on my part )

I think because if there was a break down in some sort of heating or water in any section, ie military section, he would be needed to fix it, and they had no reason to think he would do what he did, so why wouldn't he have a key if he more or less ran the place?

and secondly, we don't really know how far from the room they were...i mean is it really a big deal to you? Honestly? Thats a conceit you have to take with movies sometimes....and they didn't actually know she was infected and a carrier when she came back, it was only when they realised that they decided to terminate her. She was in quarentine, and it's not like they knew she was a full fledged virus carrier, untill it was too late

and ten million actually sounds pretty good...Im assuming this wasn't that much more expensive than the first, so it sounds pretty promising to me...

I agree with the second point but not the first. He used his key to get into the quarantine room...which is in no way connected to water/heat. He shouldn't have been able to get there.

Still a good movie though minus some flaws.
 
What they were spreading was death and destruction, and they were just as destructive as what they intended to stop. There were numerous instances where they tried to kill people that they KNEW WERE NOT INFECTED.
"Oh but they tried only targeting the infected," yeah, in one ****ing scene(and even in that scene, simply saying "well it's getting too tough so lets not even try" is hardly the right attitude in a crisis); again that does not excuse numerous other scenes where that OBVIOUSLY were not infected were striving desperately not be murdered by a government that relied on mindless brute force, the same thing they were attempting to stop. Again, they compounded errors, they fixed none.
They indeed did the right thing...according the bizzaro definition of 'right.'
There's a big difference between a necessary sacrifice, and a mindless slaughter.

So, Mr Expert, what do you suggest doing? Because trying to target only the infected sure worked didn't it :whatever:

Plus, if they killed the mom like the soldiers' suggested, then the virus wouldn't have escaped. Ditto if the dad and kids hadn't tried to get through quarentine. It was the population's fault, not the soldiers.
 
I agree with the second point but not the first. He used his key to get into the quarantine room...which is in no way connected to water/heat. He shouldn't have been able to get there.

Still a good movie though minus some flaws.


He pretty much ran the place though, and had access to all areas....like I suppose any Janitor does.

Remember too it was kinda hasty....the place has just been converted into a military station, it wasn't originally, so they probably didnt' have the time or inclination to try and make new keys that restricted acess.
 
the music in this movie is awesome

for those curious for that song that was played during the chase scene in the fields in the beginning and various parts of the movie its called...

In the House, In a Heartbeat - John Murphy
 
So, Mr Expert, what do you suggest doing? Because trying to target only the infected sure worked didn't it :whatever:

Plus, if they killed the mom like the soldiers' suggested, then the virus wouldn't have escaped. Ditto if the dad and kids hadn't tried to get through quarentine. It was the population's fault, not the soldiers.

No, it didn't stop the spread of the virus like shooting at people that obviously weren't infected, and setting people on fire that obviously weren't infected did (and again, I repeat, THEY ONLY TRIED NOT KILLING THE INFECTED ONCE VERY BRIEFLY, then immediately stopped trying and resorted to the same mindless slaughter they were supposed to be trying to contain; not to mention during that one brief sequence, the infected and those that weren't were mixed in together, they continued trying to kill people even when they were seperated and it wasn't even the least bit necessary to fire at civilians). It was the populations fault(a small portion of the population)that the problem began, then the militarys fault that the problem was compounded and a bad situation became a far worse one...with some exceptions, hence why I said the film has a great anti-government, yet still pro-soldier theme. It's actually quite disturbing that so many people are trying to justify mindless savagery that obviously isn't going to, and didn't help one bit.
What I suggest doing is not setting fire to your own men that obviously are not infected(NOT GOING TO STOP THE INFECTED!!!! OBVIOUSLY!), not firing at people that again obviously are not infected(AGAIN! OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO STOP THE INFECTION!!!!); I suggest this because I can distinguish the difference between a necessary sacrifice, and a simple mindless slaughter. What the government did in this film is the equivelant of trying to stop the spread of an out of control fire by...starting an even bigger fire.
 
the music in this movie is awesome

for those curious for that song that was played during the chase scene in the fields in the beginning and various parts of the movie its called...

In the House, In a Heartbeat - John Murphy

Great music loved it in the first one, dont think they used it to its full advantage in this one tho
 
No, it didn't stop the spread of the virus like shooting at people that obviously weren't infected, and setting people on fire that obviously weren't infected did (and again, I repeat, THEY ONLY TRIED NOT KILLING THE INFECTED ONCE VERY BRIEFLY, then immediately stopped trying and resorted to the same mindless slaughter they were supposed to be trying to contain; not to mention during that one brief sequence, the infected and those that weren't were mixed in together, they continued trying to kill people even when they were seperated and it wasn't even the least bit necessary to fire at civilians). It was the populations fault(a small portion of the population)that the problem began, then the militarys fault that the problem was compounded and a bad situation became a far worse one...with some exceptions, hence why I said the film has a great anti-government, yet still pro-soldier theme. It's actually quite disturbing that so many people are trying to justify mindless savagery that obviously isn't going to, and didn't help one bit.
What I suggest doing is not setting fire to your own men that obviously are not infected(NOT GOING TO STOP THE INFECTED!!!! OBVIOUSLY!), not firing at people that again obviously are not infected(AGAIN! OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO STOP THE INFECTION!!!!); I suggest this because I can distinguish the difference between a necessary sacrifice, and a simple mindless slaughter. What the government did in this film is the equivelant of trying to stop the spread of an out of control fire by...starting an even bigger fire.

So basically, your soloution is to pray, bend over, and kiss your ass goodbye. I really, really hope you aren't running a country if something like this ever happened, we might as well just commit suicide anyway with you and people like you in charge.

I can't believe you don't grasp the basic concept....if everyone is a potential infected victim (which everyone in that room was), they could escape and spread the virus. They didn't kill the kid (who as you pointed out didn't look infected) and look what happened....YOUR souloution of trying to help every body is ultimately what some of the soldiers did, and then you see what happens to that idea at the end. If they had shot everyone, the virus would not have got as far as it does by the end of the movie, so clearly your way was wrong.

I know, we could ask all the infected if they would kindly stand away from the non infected so we could shoot them :whatever:
 
whatever solution there would be to stopping the virus, it wouldn't have made as good of a movie...plain and simple. we all know that blowing up a sector or shooting uninfected people won't solve the problem but in the end you have to put your thinking cap aside and just enjoy the ride. the whole concept of a 'zombie' is far fetched anyway...if you can believe in the concept of 'zombies' then i don't see why it's so hard to believe the captain's orders.

besides...it's easy to say 'that wouldn't work so it's dumb that they even tried' while sitting safely in front of your computer but you never know what decisions you'd make until you're in that situation.
 
whatever solution there would be to stopping the virus, it wouldn't have made as good of a movie...plain and simple. we all know that blowing up a sector or shooting uninfected people won't solve the problem but in the end you have to put your thinking cap aside and just enjoy the ride. the whole concept of a 'zombie' is far fetched anyway...if you can believe in the concept of 'zombies' then i don't see why it's so hard to believe the captain's orders.

besides...it's easy to say 'that wouldn't work so it's dumb that they even tried' while sitting safely in front of your computer but you never know what decisions you'd make until you're in that situation.


I do agree about that, but stormy's idea (only shoot the infected! save everyone!) failed miserably in the movie...in fact, by the end of the movie, the army soldiers who disobeyed orders made things a billion times worse. OK The blow it all up plan didn't work wonders, but they did help eliminate most of the infected, and they could have cleaned up if those soldiers had just listened to orders.

I must also add that this is kind of the point of the movie, to debate things like this....I mean, I get your point about suspension of belief, but that's nots what is going on here, just different viewpoints on how things were handled. I fully believe thats part of the point of the movies, to make you think and that everyone sees the situation and characters in different lights.
 
I saw it over the weekend -- not bad.

There was indeed too much shaky-cam, but since I was expecting it, I was able to deal with it. The middle part dragged a bit, but the eye-popping firebombings at the end were amazing. I'd recommend it for horror fans and those who liked the first film - 8/10.
 
So a question, did the kid rage out and kill the dude from lost and his sister or did he just accidently infect someone else and trigger it off in france?
 
So a question, did the kid rage out and kill the dude from lost and his sister or did he just accidently infect someone else and trigger it off in france?


Might wanna spoiler tag that :P

it's unclear....it could have been either one. I'm willing to go with second since he didn't seem to display symptoms of the infected, so I'm guessing it was accidental
 
So a question, did the kid rage out and kill the dude from lost and his sister or did he just accidently infect someone else and trigger it off in france?

Since he was reacting the same as his mother, we're supposed to assume that he was immune to the rage virus but also a carrier. He would have accidentally infected someone else -- maybe his sister or a doctor or something.
We'll find out in 28 Months Later - if it ever gets made.


BTW, the teenage girl, Imogen Poots (haha - "poots") has the most gorgeous eyes I think I've ever seen.
 
Since he was reacting the same as his mother, we're supposed to assume that he was immune to the rage virus but also a carrier. He would have accidentally infected someone else -- maybe his sister or a doctor or something. We'll find out in 28 Months Later - if it ever gets made.


BTW, the teenage girl, Imogen Poots (haha = "poots") has the most gorgeous eyes I think I've ever seen.

I agree she has beautiful eyes :D

and they weren't immune to the actual virus, just the symptoms- sadly they still carried the virus, which causes even more problems.
 
^ Yeah, that's what I meant - immune to the symptoms only.
 
A Sickly Sequel
Wednesday May 16 12:53 PM ET

With 28 Weeks Later, the Brits prove that it's not just Hollywood that has the temerity to revisit a film that didn't need to be revisited.
By Brent Simon, FilmStew.com

In 2003, Danny Boyle's 28 Days Later helped put a new, rabidly charged spin on the post-apocalyptic sub-genre, telling the story of an English coma patient (Cillian Murphy) who awakens to find what on the surface appears to be an eerily empty London in fact overrun by victims of a "rage virus." Shot in gritty fashion on digital video for only $8 million, the film was a tremendous summer success for distributor Fox Searchlight, which used a canny grassroots marketing plan and drew upon bubbling, post-September 11 world anxiety to evoke dreadful parallel delight (unspeakable violence delivered with an unnerving fervor). In the end, the film scared up $45 million domestically and another $37.5 million overseas.

Opening at 1,100 more venues than its predecessor, 28 Weeks Later pulled in $10 million this past weekend, just under the 2003 film, but on par with zombie maestro George Romero's 2005 entry Land of the Dead, and good for second place at the box office behind Spider-Man 3's sophomore frame. The movie's creative execution, though, represents a headlong plunge off the first film's fairly reasoned cliff, and may jeopardize future franchise viability if justifiably sour word-of-mouth proves as contagious as the movie's viral plague.

Proffering quite literally only a small handful of evocative shots and momentary, impressionistic tones and moods, 28 Weeks Later is a disappointment both as a narrative continuation of 28 Days Later and merely as its own stand-alone thrill ride. Its putative emotional centerpiece — a sequence involving a mass escape which turns into a military shooting gallery — is a piece of cheap, empty theater, exacerbated by illogical staging. The film is marked by certain political allusions — talk of re-populated "green zones" and the like, all patrolled by American-led armed NATO forces — but does little to interweave these into the story in a significant and meaningful way.

28 Weeks Later opens on a working-class British couple, Don (Robert Carlyle) and Alice Harris (Catherine McCormack), holed up in a rural cottage with a handful of other survivors. When security is breached, Don opts for self-preservation and flees in somewhat cowardly fashion, believing his wife to have been unable to be saved. Nearly six months later, the plague has apparently run its course, and society is being cautiously reproduced. Don is reunited with his two kids — teenager Tammy (Imogen Poots) and the younger Andy (Mackintosh Muggleton), sent away abroad for safe-keeping prior to the outbreak — and talks around Alice's death a bit.

Desiring some keepsake or memento of their mother, Tammy and Andy slip out of the contained area and return to their house, where they come across a strung-out Alice, who is infected with the rage virus but possessing of a special genetic immunity that suppresses its effects. Medical official Scarlet (Rose Byrne) examines Alice and immediately ascertains her importance in possibly creating a vaccine that will reverse the virus, but Don slips in past security and makes a weepy apology to his wife.

When they swap saliva, he becomes infected, and thus the rampaging virus is off and running again. Tammy and Andy escape containment with Scarlet, and this trio eventually joins up with Army sniper Doyle (Jeremy Renner), whose hesitancy over cruelly but necessarily gunning down fleeing masses in wholesale fashion gives way to a new resolve when he's told that Andy likely has the same genetic makeup that could drive research for a cure.

28 Weeks Later is directed by Spaniard Juan Carlos Fresnadillo (Intacto), whose execution doesn't measure up to the script's few scenes of imagination. These include a motorboat escape that partially opens the movie, a willfully implausible helicopter-as-weapon bit also seen in Robert Rodriguez's Grindhouse segment and another episode of flight in which the chased party must avoid a deadly nerve gas being used to quell an uprising of the infected.

The very best that can be said of 28 Weeks Later is that it grabs hold of a frenetic pace and doesn't let go, but Fresnadillo utilizes too many cuts in his editing scheme — a contrivance that extends even to a simple scooter ride — and the movie is a bungled mess of misinformed plot strands and poorly delineated spatial relationships. The film's action scenes often literally make no sense, and so they become merely wearying instead of tension- or anxiety-provoking.

On the plus side, composer John Murphy's synth-driven score conveys a lilting sense of emo-doom. It clings to you, even if nothing else about 28 Weeks Later does.


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