6.04 Arrow - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Pickle-El]

anyone else disappointed we didnt get a wet t-shirt shot of Lois when she was getting dunked in that trough? I SO that they were going there with the white shirt





yes, I'm a pig

You're hoggin the Pen!

Easily the best episode this season......could be one of my all time favorites. I must see it again soon and decide. Pure .

 

[TrailerCues]

Okay.. one more point, now that I've rewatched the ep: What the hell are they doing with Lois and Chloe's relationship? More specifically, this is the second ep that I thought Chloe was showing signs of cousin-envy.

And talking Lois into "trusting" her.. then almost bragging to Clark about how she "may have forgot to tell Lois.." about the image of the crest that she was able to render. Man..I wonder if they are trying to build resentment and envy between those two. It's really just an extension, I suppose, of what we saw at the end of "Facade" when Lois was ruffling Clark's wet hair, and Chloe looked on with an "Oh, ****.. not again" look on her face.

They are probably setting up the stage for Lois to start being taken serious as a reporter & will get more stories & probably be offered a job at the planet somewhere down the line with Chloe still working where she is working & Chloe will eventually get jealous to the point of no return & go bonkers & end up in a nut place like mom

 

[The Caped Knight]

They are probably setting up the stage for Lois to start being taken serious as a reporter & will get more stories & probably be offered a job at the planet somewhere down the line with Chloe still working where she is working & Chloe will eventually get jealous to the point of no return & go bonkers & end up in a nut place like mom

It looks like they are heading excatly down that direction. [Lois has already made to front page headline stories.] This by no means has gone unoticed. In Fact I won't be surprised if Perry White is already taken an intrest in Lois Lane's carrer in journalism as a Reporter. [setting up the stage for him to hire her as a full time Ace Reporter upstairs @ The Daily Planet when he becomes Editor - and-Chief .]

 

[The Caped Knight]

I'd also like to mention I'm glad Smallville doesn't have anymore Famous pop, country, teen etc.... music and is just plain old pure instrumental music .

 

[muscaremy]

ey was it just me or did the arrow call clark beav.... during the robbery

 

[WompuM]

you know, i was really against the compund bow starting off, but this is a young, gadget arrow ollie and honestly, a compound bow that is full of gadgets itself is perfectly plausible. I know we wont be seeing any boxing gloves but hey, you never know.
Ollie fires an arrow at Lex's mansion after Lex is working out, misses Lex and hits his boxing gloved. I would crap a taco salad if that happened.

 

[Zorex]

Weeeeeeeeee

lovely shot

I thought the whole element of her trying to find out GA's identity was amazingly classic Lois Lane. And of course, she got kidnapped to boot. If that's not Lois, than I don't know what is.

Yep, Lois is heading into journalism, and getting into trouble because of it. This I like

 

[Assassin]

ey was it just me or did the arrow call clark beav.... during the robbery

yea he did.

 

[Assassin]

Now all we need is to bring back Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg. That my friend would make for one hell of a season ender.

Um..look up episode 11 i believe, what ever number it is, its called justice

 

[Zing79]

That last scene in the barn is just so ridiculously good, it’s hard to put into words. You can see it all in the span of 5 minutes. The angst is gone; the strength of conviction is there. The true nature of his bond to Lois is just beneath the surface.

I’m sure they’ll pull it back just as quickly as they showed it off. But it’s right there in that scene. A brief but powerful glimpse of the man he’s going to become very soon.

You know, most of us don’t even realize it -- it’s such a gradual thing that we continue to stick to the same beliefs we had about the character, because we think nothing’s changed. Our perception is that the character never learns, never grows.

1+1+1…+1 is such a gradual change in numbers that it doesn’t phase us. What’s the difference between 114 and 115 really? How about 107 and 115? None of us sees it. We ignore the fact the count has been running so long that we miss the obvious chasm that exists between 1 and 115?

 

[KalKai]

 

[Assassin]

some one get a gif of the arrow hitting the bullet

 

[Katsuro]

Man, it's about time someone finally told Clark to get off his butt and become a superhero. Chloe even called him a superhero, and he didn't correct her.

 

[KalKai]

some one get a gif of the arrow hitting the bullet

 

[triplet]

Hee!
So nice to see that we still share a brain on a few things.

I think there is an intentional ambiguity to our new Ms. Lana....I kinda love it.

LOVED this ep too. I need to rewatch it later, but man.. did they put a LOT into this episode, and the balance was just about perfect. I prefer a bit more Clark in my shows, but since this was an ep to intro Ollie, I can let it slide.. This time.

Yeah, definitely not enough Clark, especially in the first couple of acts, but he was so supermanly in the final acts it more than made up for it in my mind.



Loved this ep.

 

[Assassin]

Thanks

 

[Whiteflag]

Great gifs Kalkai! (Saving the ones with Clark)

 

[ssj wolverine]

Much better than that piece of garbage last week. But what is up with TW being a guest star for the past two episodes? I actually liked the Green Arrow but I think it is time for TPTB to remember who this show is supposed to be about. Lana? What can I say. That scene in the elevator made me laugh so hard. She is about as threatening as Minny Me. That scene totally came out of left field. I usually want her to die but now I want her to die slow and painfully. Loved that fact that there is still evil in my boy Lionel. I was worried that Chloe would be upset with Clark destroying her files but I was glad that she understood his reasoning. Last but not least Lois = annoying.

 

[AirKnight82]

I noticed that lois is getting a bit annoying as she becomes a reporter/article writer. I loved it when Lana decided to get in that guys face on the elevator. It was a great epi all in all, and hope they show GA and Clark working together in future episodes. I'm just wondering what will Chloe do if Lois ever gets a job at the Daily. Laterz

 

[AllThingsComic]

I enjoyed the episode with 2 minor annoyances, Lana in the elevator, rrriiiigggght! All of a sudden she's threatening people? Give me a break, it's time for her to go!! Her purpose is done on the show, time to go! Second, Ollie has been training and conditioning his body for how long now and Lois has the agility to take his bow away from him? Give me a break now. Episode was great bar those two corny moments. Ollies speech at the end was the best part of the show! It almost gave me hope(not really) for a Justice show!

 

[NHawk19]

I liked this ep a lot things really came along nicely and we finally get to see that actual DC costumed heros will exist in the Smallville Universe.

Things I liked:

Lionel, he's sort of in the same place Lex was in season one. Lex summed it up with his comments about how his dad has been trying to be a good man for so long he may acctually believe he is one.

I liked the Chloe take on Lois' article. I know most see it as a sign of jealousy but remember Chloe was an editor in HS and that (or whatever is above it) may be more in line with her aspirations. While with Lois we know she ends up being a reporter.

Lois, Dont tell me they actually gave her direction?!?! its about time.

Lana, she may be a b**** but somehow with this incarnation of her it fits.

Lex, MR seemed really on.

and Finally Green Arrow. There was just great interaction and his character really challenged Clark's beliefs on right & wrong, and results vs. methods used. The costume to be honest I knew what was going and who GA was and with the way the hood and glasses sat on him in the dark it was at times tough to distiguish. I dont know that it would be the same in daylight but that seems to be a problem with everyone who hides their identity.

Things I didnt like:

There wasnt much, except that Clarks story seems to be getting a little side tracked in favor of other things. However, it may be necessary to do so because Clark really isnt in a good place right now and only interacts with people to save them with exception of Chloe.

All in all great episode even if I thought at times GA was a little like a certain other caped crusader, however it really didnt bug me because they do have similar gimmicks.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Good show I just don't understand why they dont write the Green Arrow to act like the Green Arrow instead of Batman.

 

[AgentPat]

A couple of more scenes with Clark and it would have been right up there with my favorites.

Yes!

And that's an interesting observation by you and Triplet regarding Lana. Cause I was thinking, WTH!

I'm still thinking WTH 'cause that blackmail stuff, whether real or a smoke screen, had to come from somewhere. This is one of the reasons I think people are frustrated with Lana. She's all over the freakin' map, calling Clark on his lies and seeing right through them in one episode, and being completely clueless, crying like a blithering scored GF the next. How can she be so smart yet so dumb at the same time?

So now what? The writers are setting her up this season to be smarter than Lex *AND* Lionel by having her "act" as Lex's lover while she foils their plan for developing the ultimate weapon? I wouldn't put it past them to take her character in that direction, but going from cheerleader to coffee shop owner to art student to Mata Hari Just. Doesn't. Fly. It really bugs me that they think viewers will buy that character arc with her. Jeeze, wasn't being possessed by a 500 y.o. dead witch enough?

Honestly, I really, REALLY wish they could have just left her as Clark's oblivious girlfriend that he saved from some horrible misfortune every third episode or so. At least they could have ran with some humor in that interpretation and kept the serious stuff between Clark and Lex. Oh well. *sigh*

Loved that last scene with Ollie and Clark in the Loft. Perfection!

People come down so hard on the ubiquitous loft scenes, but they are often the best scenes in every episode. This one ranks right up there with Naman and Sageeth.

Great gifs Kalkai! (Saving the ones with Clark)

Beetcha to it. LOL

And I agree with Avid (again), more white T-Shirts for Clarkie.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I think people are taking that Lana scene wrong. It wasn't out of character for her, she was putting on an act. I think after the whole fiasco with the camera in her bedroom she knows Lex is watching her. Especially since she was in the LuthorCorp elevator where she knows damn well Lex can see her.

Notice how she didnt act surprised when Lex told her that he "didnt know blackmail was one of her talents." If she didnt think she was being watched her first question would've been "how the hell do you know about that?"

 

[Brainiac 8]

That last scene in the barn is just so ridiculously good, it’s hard to put into words. You can see it all in the span of 5 minutes. The angst is gone; the strength of conviction is there. The true nature of his bond to Lois is just beneath the surface.

I’m sure they’ll pull it back just as quickly as they showed it off. But it’s right there in that scene. A brief but powerful glimpse of the man he’s going to become very soon.

You know, most of us don’t even realize it -- it’s such a gradual thing that we continue to stick to the same beliefs we had about the character, because we think nothing’s changed. Our perception is that the character never learns, never grows.

1+1+1…+1 is such a gradual change in numbers that it doesn’t phase us. What’s the difference between 114 and 115 really? How about 107 and 115? None of us sees it. We ignore the fact the count has been running so long that we miss the obvious chasm that exists between 1 and 115?

Good points Zing, the development is deffinatly there.