6.05 - Reunion - Discussion Thread - "Spoilers"

[Kaboom]

nice review trip, i dug it

 

[triplet]

It saddens me to hear such things.

LOL!

I guess it was cool, but I didn't get a geekasm over it or anything. I know that Gotham is in the same universe as Smallville.

*shrug*

nice review trip, i dug it

Thanks, 'boom.

 

[tonytr1687]

I recently re-watched the episode on youtube and I caught something interesting. In the flashback scene where Lex and Duncan are talking about working probono for the poor, Duncan asks Lex what he thinks about the poor and his answer is something like this "I think it would drive my Dad crazy if I helped the poor." He doesnt say that he thinks the opposite of Lionel, or that the poor are ppl too or something like that. This line is kind of a metaphor for their future relationship. While Lex strives to be a better person than his dad, deep down he actually shares the same values as him, and Lex's "trying to be different than him" behavior is merely him trying to get back at Lionel.

Hope that made sense...

 

[avidreader]

I also noticed something upon viewing it again.

Lex tells his dad to have the research on Duncan on his desk by the morning.

I wonder if this research evolves into what happens to Lex in the episode Static. The astro-projection is kind of similar to

Spoiler

Lex being out of phase

 

[Gold Samurai]

LOL!

I guess it was cool, but I didn't get a geekasm over it or anything. I know that Gotham is in the same universe as Smallville.

*shrug*



Thanks, 'boom.

now I can't stop thinking that somewhere in that universe there will be a batcave and batmobile

 

[The Sage]

I've read a lot of Chloe fans asking about a spin-off for her and Ollie. I'm sure I'd watch.

Sage - I don't really understand the point you are making about Duncan attending Excelsior on scholarship. Does that not make sense to you?

If I'm a rich kid and a poor kid was going to my expensive school, I wouldn't bash him for being broke. It'd be insulting, at least to me, because it would seem that this kid must've passed his entrance exam with flying colors, probably higher than mine, which could mean he got in because of his brains while I got in because I'm rich. Probably just my point of view.

And I'm surprised that you wouldn't understand why Clark would visit Lana in the hospital. I know that you don't like her, but we're talking about Clark here: the guy that loved her for a really long time.

This is also the same Lana Lang that has shown nothing but disdain for Clark, even when it appears he's trying to help. I'm not saying Clark wouldn't care, but at least from their last few encounters he'd get the idea that she doesn't want to be bothered with him, especially with Lex's presence.

 

[AgentPat]

If I'm a rich kid and a poor kid was going to my expensive school, I wouldn't bash him for being broke. It'd be insulting, at least to me, because it would seem that this kid must've passed his entrance exam with flying colors, probably higher than mine, which could mean he got in because of his brains while I got in because I'm rich. Probably just my point of view.

Well yes, this is the adult way of viewing things, but kids don't think like adults. Children pick on those that are different than themselves. Excelsior is established as a prep school for the children of wealthy parents. Poor children accepted to the school solely on scholarship would probably be shunned.

This is also the same Lana Lang that has shown nothing but disdain for Clark, even when it appears he's trying to help. I'm not saying Clark wouldn't care, but at least from their last few encounters he'd get the idea that she doesn't want to be bothered with him, especially with Lex's presence.

But Clark didn't go to make Lana feel better; he went to see her because he still loves her, regardless of what she feels or what Lex believes. The fact that Lex was so cold to Clark is possibly indicative of his fear that Clark could win Lana back easily. Lex is jealous of Clark for many reasons, and it's not just Clark's hair.

BTW... if looks could kill...

In Clark's case, they can! LOL

 

[Spider-Gamer]

Of course looks can kill in Clark's case...he has heat vision!

 

[Serene]

If I'm a rich kid and a poor kid was going to my expensive school, I wouldn't bash him for being broke. It'd be insulting, at least to me, because it would seem that this kid must've passed his entrance exam with flying colors, probably higher than mine, which could mean he got in because of his brains while I got in because I'm rich. Probably just my point of view.

I see what you are saying, thanks for explaining. I do think that you are looking at it from your perspective (that of a much nicer guy than a bunch of spoiled rich jerks). There is a private school near me that is similar to Excelsior in that there are the regular students, and there are the "scholarship" students. And from the people I know that have sent their kids there, every knows the difference.

This is also the same Lana Lang that has shown nothing but disdain for Clark, even when it appears he's trying to help. I'm not saying Clark wouldn't care, but at least from their last few encounters he'd get the idea that she doesn't want to be bothered with him, especially with Lex's presence.

Oh, I think he knows she doesn't want him around her anymore.. she's WAY too damn hurt and pissed at him still. I think she wants to stay away from him in order to make that break. But I don't think Clark cares.. he's Clark and he cares about people, especially certain people.

 

[Whiteflag]

Oh, I think he knows she doesn't want him around her anymore.. she's WAY too damn hurt and pissed at him still. I think she wants to stay away from him in order to make that break. But I don't think Clark cares.. he's Clark and he cares about people, especially certain people.

Yes, but there's some inconsistency on Clark's part here, IMO. In "Shattered" Lana was more seriously hurt and she and Clark were much closer back then. However, when she told him, basically, that she didn't want him around, he, understandably, never went back to visit her, he "sent a card".

Although I know Clark is a really good guy that always wants to do the right thing, it was a little bit weird, to me, that after he admitted he felt as if he didn't know her anymore, he rushed to the hospital to see her when she was not really that ill and knowing that most probably Lex would be there.

Maybe he wanted to warn her against the dangers of being with Lex, again. And yes, Clark still cares about her in spite of how she's treating him. That's in his nature. But I'm glad Lois told him that her being with Lex was her own choice. She's an adult and must deal with the consequences of her actions, like everybody else.

 

[spider-neil]

"Raya", dangn't!

who is that?

 

[spider-neil]

now I can't stop thinking that somewhere in that universe there will be a batcave and batmobile

technically if bruce did meet clark he'd be around 18 therefore would have no cave, no costume, no car and no gadgets but would have extensive martial arts knowledge and science savvy.

in fact bruce wouldn't even be 'scary' as he takes on that persona after his first outing as a crime fighter in gothem where he fails to scare anyone and decides he needs an edge.

 

[Cmill216]

who is that?

The chick from the Phantom Zone who helped him in "Zod".

 

[spider-neil]

The chick from the Phantom Zone who helped him in "Zod".

cheers man

 

[triplet]

technically if bruce did meet clark he'd be around 18 therefore would have no cave, no costume, no car and no gadgets but would have extensive martial arts knowledge and science savvy.

in fact bruce wouldn't even be 'scary' as he takes on that persona after his first outing as a crime fighter in gothem where he fails to scare anyone and decides he needs an edge.

I thought Bruce was older than Clark...

Clark's 19 now, he'll turn 20 before the end of the season.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Triplet, great review.

I honestly think this is one of the strongest scripts DeKnight has turned in.
I agree with you about the acting ability of the three guest stars, since they put so much into the characters.

Notice how young Lex was able to mimic many of MR's marnnerisms so well. That's good acting.t:

 

[Migu-EL]

Notice how young Lex was able to mimic many of MR's marnnerisms so well. That's good acting.t:

I agree, when young Lex made the joke about hitting the gym to pull off the tights like Warrior Angel to Duncan that was all MR.

 

[avidreader]

Yes, but there's some inconsistency on Clark's part here, IMO. In "Shattered" Lana was more seriously hurt and she and Clark were much closer back then. However, when she told him, basically, that she didn't want him around, he, understandably, never went back to visit her, he "sent a card".

I wouldnt put it down to inconsistency. You're comparing something that happened in Season 3 with something that's happened in Season 6. Both Clark and Lana have been through alot since then, and both have matured a great deal.

Clark's actions now in Season 6 have progressed to the point where he is starting to do things, simply because he sees it as the right thing to do and it's something he wants to do and he believes in.

His actions arent being driven any more by simply trying to fit in. In other words its not so much about doing things to please other people and make himself look good in their eyes.

Maybe he wanted to warn her against the dangers of being with Lex, again. And yes, Clark still cares about her in spite of how she's treating him. That's in his nature.

He still cares about her and he always will. He knew that she had been knocked out to the point that she was unconscious, so I'm sure he really wanted to make sure that she was okay.

But I'm glad Lois told him that her being with Lex was her own choice. She's an adult and must deal with the consequences of her actions, like everybody else.

I am too. Lana did make the choice on her own to be with Lex and she also made the choice to be in partnership with him while she was still with Clark, knowing full well that Lex couldnt be completely trusted .

So, I dont want to see Clark constantly beating himself over the head for pushing Lana into the arms of Lex, when it was clearly her decision.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Lois said it perfectly when she told him to stop beating himself up all the time.

 

[avidreader]

Lois said it perfectly when she told him to stop beating himself up all the time.

But dont you think that that is a Superman trait. It really boils down to him wanting to look out for those that cant look out for themselves.

 

[Brainiac 8]

But dont you think that that is a Superman trait. It really boils down to him wanting to look out for those that cant look out for themselves.

I agree, Superman, even as an adult makes everything that happens his responsibility. There was a story not so long ago where he was fighting two versions of the Parasite, when something happened and one of the died.

Superman apologised to the dead parasite for not being able to prevent his death. That is what differentiates Supreman from other heroes.t:

 

[avidreader]

I agree, Superman, even as an adult makes everything that happens his responsibility. There was a story not so long ago where he was fighting two versions of the Parasite, when something happened and one of the died.

Superman apologised to the dead parasite for not being able to prevent his death. That is what differentiates Supreman from other heroes.t:

That's just weird.

 

[Brainiac 8]

That's just weird.

He takes responsibility for others, good and bad.


Did you realize my spelling and grammar were horrible in that post.

 

[Serene]

I am too. Lana did make the choice on her own to be with Lex and she also made the choice to be in partnership with him while she was still with Clark, knowing full well that Lex couldnt be completely trusted .

So, I dont want to see Clark constantly beating himself over the head for pushing Lana into the arms of Lex, when it was clearly her decision.

I agree it was her decision and ultimately it's her responsibility and her's alone.

But I also acknowledge that it's a decision that she would never have made had he not broken up with her.

But yes.. what's done is done, and despite the circumstances she chose to give Lex a chance knowing full-well that he's crossed the line on numerous occasions. It almost seems like she thinks she can "save" Lex from himself.. which is silly, of course.

I have no doubt that she will pay for her naiveté before this season is over, and everyone will be able to rejoice.

 

[Brainiac 8]

^ LOL, Serene this forum wouldn't be the same without you.