The Dark Knight Rises 6 Minutes of TDKR footage attached to Mission Impossible 4! - - Part 11

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Does anyone think we'll be seeing a new batman suit at some point in the movie and nolan just hid it or do you think it was only slightly modified?
 
No, it's true. Digital Imaxs playing MI4 get the new trailer, and standard theaters get the trailer with Sherlock Holmes 2. 70mm IMAX's with MI4 get the prologue.
 
There are a few things I just cant get over in the trailer, how much confidence Bane just oozes especially when he walks, how haunting and amazing that chant is and how amazing the batwing looks. My jaw dropped when they revealed it.
 
Rags, You going to see MI:4 or did you get a refund?
 
Wait. So if I go see Sherlock Holmes in digital IMAX, it won't have the trailer?
 
Boom said:
Wait. So if I go see Sherlock Holmes in digital IMAX, it won't have the trailer?
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SH2 isn't IMAX silly :oldrazz: if you go see MI4 in digital IMAX then you get to see the trailer :woot:.
 
I understand the need for things to be kept somewhat on "track" but the comparison between the director of said film and another film and it's relation to one's enjoyment of said film (footage) as a whole is hardly off track by measure. When we get into why eating your greens is good for you then perhaps. But who I am...

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First, you're establishing a false dichotomy between action and storytelling in film: one is not achieved at the expense of the other. It's not a zero-sum game. I don't know why you say that a movie which puts the story first "would almost certainly have no action along with a lot of other stuff." That kind of logic implies that big-budget action-packed projects can't have a cohesive story at its core, which -- come on, that's not true.
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Well if the assertion that any of bay's 8 movies haven't had a story at their core can be thrown all about, the nature of the summer action film vs summer story film needs to be explored. I've simply accused Nolan of doing (perhaps to a lesser degree) some of the very same things Bay does.
A car on a roof is sensational cinema at it's best. The scene could have gone a lot of different ways but the "tank is flying on roof tops." As one character in the film mentions in bewilderment. As if next he's about to say, "I must be in a silly michael bay movie."

Second, you're establishing another false dichotomy between storytelling and entertaining: I made that distinction in how I view Nolan and Bay's film-making styles, but that does not mean that they are polar opposites and you can only achieve the one by sacrificing the other. Sure, criticize Nolan's execution (and I do: the Inception skiing scene leaves a lot to be desired) but to say that his action scenes are unnecessary for his storytelling is a bit much. Unnecessary in that context is "remove this scene from the movie and it won't change the impact of the scene that comes right after"; I would disagree with the examples you provided. Something would be changed. Something would be lost.
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The thing you're missing is that their styles aren't being measured on the same material. Would Bay turn Bruce Waynes meeting with his superiors into Shia's 5 minute meeting with Malkovich? This is the (traditional and celebrated)approach with comedy. Bay's "style" and Nolans style is similar when the material is similar along with their approach to a few other things. The Rock in many ways warrants a comparison to The Batman films. Not Shia and the aliens in the toy commercial. In that comparison I see a lot of similarities. Right down the the over the top and needlessly sensational car chase.

Yes when bay makes comedies, then in true comedy fashion entire scenes exist as gags and do not directly affect the following scenes. No argument there. Is that bays style, well that depends. I assume you're heard of David Gordan Green? Brilliant filmmaker and on again off again stoner comedy guy. What's his style I wonder.

What I am not willing to accept assertions that Nolan and Bay are similar film-makers, simply because they can both get the studios to approve of their astronomical budgets.
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That would be a straw man. I simply said they aren't as different as many would believe and not for the simple reason you think I said.

Oh, now Michael Bay's misogyny is a "misconception"? And "anti gay bs"? No, I'm sorry: I can't allow that. I can't allow that at all. James Bond has nothing to do with it. The blatant fanservice of Your Highness has nothing to do with it. Michael Bay being a Jew has nothing to do with it. His treatment of women, on and off camera, has everything to do with it, and your dismissive assertion that his female characters are "empowered" is not good enough an excuse, for Bay or for any other director. It just so happens he's the one we're talking about right now.
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I see, so you're talking about him as person? My mistake, I really have no opinion on this seeing as how I don't know the man personally. My bad. On camera? Have you seen the Crank films?

good luck with your exams though.
 
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or just into a digital version of MI4.

Are you still going? We're arriving at 10
 
Miranda Fox said:
Inception...oh, you mean the film where a female character turns out to be more talented at dreaming than all the males (in fact, if we take what people said about Mal at face value, both her and Ariadne were better at building dreams than the guys.) The film where a female character saves the male 'hero' at the end by finally getting him to wake the **** up? (so to speak)

Pray tell, how is that anti-women?
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I don't care if she's more talented at dreaming. That would be like a stripper being more talented at dancing or a killer more talented at killing...or rather a killer more talented at dreaming. Many bay films have a female saving the guys...one might argue they all do.

I have to refresh my memory on Inception but wasn't she the antagonist? Wasn't she mentally unstable and neglectful of her children? What's nolan saying about the contemporary family with that? Is the man simply more capable or raising let alone caring about his family? But I digress, it's not a matter of Inception being against women it's a matter of none of these films being any better or worse than each other. Including bays.

Bay has done all that and more so your point is...what?
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My point is that it's film, and if you actually have a problem with such things take it up with most filmmakers in western culture and not Bay alone.
(and no, bay has not "done that and more."

Honestly, I don't hate Michael Bay. I also don't think Michael Bay hates women. I think he sees us as sex objects and little else, and while that is extremely offensive I don't find it hateful so much as *****ey.
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Fair enough. I think by that measure, men are used as sex objects in film as well. Tough world I suppose.
 
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I just entered the thread and found Marvin trying to defend the idea that Michael Bay DOESN'T see women as mere sex objects to Miranda...what a brave man!

So I've just seen the trailer...for the 14th time...still amazing, can't wait to go to sherlock 2 tomorrow just to see it (oh i guess Sherlock will be fun too!)
 
I just entered the thread and found Marvin trying to defend the idea that Michael Bay DOESN'T see women as mere sex objects to Miranda...what a brave man!

So I've just seen the trailer...for the 14th time...still amazing, can't wait to go to sherlock 2 tomorrow just to see it (oh i guess Sherlock will be fun too!)
 
I suppose I'm just waiting till I see the trailer for myself to shift gears.
 
Anti Goku said:
Does anyone think we'll be seeing a new batman suit at some point in the movie and nolan just hid it or do you think it was only slightly modified?
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I'm fairly certain the Bane Vs Bats at city Hall is there final battle so...

no new suit


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