8.12 - Bulletproof - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[The Guardian]

Great stuff, I love Clark's influence on everyone around him, cool stuff!!!up:

 

[Tron5000]

Son of a b****.

 

[gtkilla]

Wow...so is this like the 70th time they've gotten back together?

 

[greenlantern248]

I guess so gtkilla, I thought he was finally going to make that leap that the world needs him more when he asked Danny if it was hard to put his family through emotions.

I thought this was really the first episode this season that I was meh about, it was good to see Oliver back and as Green Arrow.

 

[The Guardian]

Wow...so is this like the 70th time they've gotten back together?

No no no, you're missing two 0's it's the 7000th time they've gotten back together!!!

 

[Prison Mike]

the episode felt like a step back. Everything was going well until that last minute.

 

[SV Fan]

the episode felt like a step back. Everything was going well until that last minute.

I have to agree with that, other then the final scene definantly one of the better episodes all season. The Lana worship from Tess was at least believable(unlike last week) if you base it on past history.

 

[ironman29758]

yeah, Lex is one crazy dude. I wonder how he bugged Tess' optic nerve though.

I thought it was through the neckless but it is only use to block the optic nerve thing. I wanted to see more of Emil and John get his powers back but it was a good episode. seven.five/ten

 

[Prison Mike]

I thought it was through the neckless but it is only use to block the optic nerve thing. I wanted to see more of Emil and John get his powers back but it was a good episode. seven.five/ten

maybe you're right. I didn't quite get the explanation that Lana gave (I often don't understand the science mumbo jumbo Smallville spits out because it's usually crap).

Overall, this episode wasn't quite as good as the last two episodes. In fact, it ranks in the middle-low end on my list.

 

[greenlantern248]

See Jonn still must have his powers and took the bullet to show that he wasn't a "cape" and I know we can't have a character looking like Jonn's true form running around, but in Smallville if he didn't have his powers,
1. Jonn would have been dead on the fall back to earth after saving Clark,
2. He would look like his true self,
3. He wouldn't have made Detective so quick with out some sort of mental help

I don't know I'm just ranting.
Like I said before the episode had great moments to it, I like Clark going undercover to find the truth, even if he doesn't write it for the Planet. Lex using Tess as his eyes and ears is just creepy and messed up. The Tess, Lana fight that was sweet, I didn't care for the end to much though.
So I would put this probably one of my least favorite episodes this season

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I didn't care for this episode.

 

[RagingTempest]

I thought it was a good episode.

Things I liked:

-John Jones/MM being back

-Clark going undercover and acting like Superman for the majority of his scenes (except for the last!)

-Danny Turpin

-Oliver/Green Arrow's return

-Lana and Tess' catfight

-The revelation of Lex using Tess as his ears and eyes.

-Tess cutting Lex off for good.

-The shot of Lex Luthor declared dead on the Daily Planet newspaper (Jesus, how many times has he been declared dead, lol.)

-Clark, Oliver and MM talking about being a team!

Things I didn't like

-The last scene (with Lana leaving in 2 episodes, did the writers really need to anger fans with that scene as it made Clark seem foolish once again. oh well..)

 

[The Caped Knight]

Well it comes as no surprise to me that this episode overall was disappointing . (I said this way back when I read the spoilers .) Yes this episode had great moments . But overall it was Garbage .

As it stands the first half of season 8 soared to new heights towards the superman mythology . so far the second half has been week .

It's amazing how much of a negative influence lana has both in this series & Clark .

You can clearly see a contrast between the two

With lana, Clark has more issue with uncertainty ... his maturity is basically thrown out the window and replaced with doubt, confusion and a great deal of insecurity .

With Lois, Clark actually is a lot tougher, his determination and confidence is clear . and he shows much more maturity .

 

[Prison Mike]

Well it comes as no surprise to me that this episode overall was disappointing . (I said this way back when I read the spoilers .) Yes this episode had great moments . But overall it was Garbage .

As it stands the first half of season 8 soared to new heights towards the superman mythology . so far the second half has been week .

It's amazing how much of a negative influence lana has both in this series & Clark .

You can clearly see a contrast between the two

With lana, Clark has more issue with uncertainty ... his maturity is basically thrown out the window and replaced with doubt, confusion and a great deal of insecurity .

With Lois, Clark actually is a lot tougher, his determination and confidence is clear . and he shows much more maturity .

well I blame Clark for being so uncertain and immature when he's around Lana. Lana has said every time that he's destined for great things. It's Clark that is falling back all by himself. I just don't want Lana to break up with him once again. I hope it's mutual by the time she leaves.

 

[Mikelus]

I think people have to stop blaming Lana for Clark's actions, Clark is an adult, he's responsible for his actions, Lana is not forcing him to do anything, he's the one having doubts about what type of life he really wants. All this Lana hatred is kind of misogynistic, just too easy to blame her instead of CK.

The episode was good for the most part, nice scenes with Turpin, Ollie and MM, plus some development regarding Tess, now we know why she decides the merger.

 

[Syncos]

Wow...so is this like the 70th time they've gotten back together?

I still resolve that they're not back together. Even if that's what Clark's aiming for. It's going to be shut down in the next episode.

Overall I really liked this episode. I hope to see more of Dan.

 

[epc11223]

im surprised no one is mentioning the extremely brief glimpse of lex in his power suit. just before the cat fight, lana was looking at the information on the drive that she stole from tess, and they have a "version 1" and "version 2", where version 1 has a bald headed person in some sort of suit. i can only speculate that it is supposed to be lex.

overall, not too terrible an episode, but i had a feeling it wouldnt be as good as the previous two. i would get a picture of the suit, but no way of capturing it. those who taped (old school, i know) or dvr'd it, check it again, im pretty sure its there.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I think people have to stop blaming Lana for Clark's actions, Clark is an adult, he's responsible for his actions, Lana is not forcing him to do anything, he's the one having doubts about what type of life he really wants. All this Lana hatred is kind of misogynistic, just too easy to blame her instead of CK.

I blame Clark too . But you can't deny that lana is not at fault . She's had negative influence . Clark's used her as an excuses through out this entire series run . He rather be with her and forsake his destiny . Than be The Hero he's destined to become at this point in his life .


The world is in need of a savior that will be inspiration to many. A light to those who have lost their way in the darkness. A champion of justice, etc... Deep down Clark knows he's that he's the one . But what's holding him back is his desire to be with lana, when he himself knows it's just not ment to be .

 

[Webhead2006]

Well tonights episode i thought was pretty good, had a few flaws but still enjoyed the episode. I liked the main plot for the episode was about john jones getting shot and finding who was the ones that did it to him. I was kinda hoping he would have gotten his powers back in this episode but maybe they are going to have phil morris in one of the last episodes of the season and he gets his powers back then. It was nice that doctor emil hamilton was in the episode like early rumors had sucks he was just a very small bit role.

The actor for dan turnpin i thought was pretty good pick even though he was in the show once before way back in season 1 episode 3. I liked he had a family and was conflicted in his job loyalities. The going under cover as a cop for clark was a nice subplot for the episode and i thought that was done very well. I loved he had the name joe forman(probably taking jorel and whitney forman's names together) then the city of coast city got mentioned again. That is a real dc comics city right?

The green arrow was also good in the episode. Nice to see things are still not peachy keen with clark and ollie. But it was nice to hear ollie and john jones have had some interactions between each other. Though sucks it happened in the wonderful world of offscreenville.

As for the lana/tess plot i didnt really care for it much. Though it is nice to her have a conflict and scenes with tess and i thought the lanafu fight scene was pretty good. Now what a twist with lex using tess's body as a video camera. Cant wait to see where that leads too. Also nice to see they were laying some seeds for episode 14 in the episode with the merger talks.

As for the lana and clark stuff. At the start of the episode i thought it was nice and clark's talk with chloe at isis about lois was nice. Though i didnt like at the end of the episode clark was being a bit of old clark and wanting to be with lana. Though she is only there for two more episodes so we know by the end of episode 14 their relationship/love has to be over in some form since kk isnt likely to be in the show any more besides if their is a 9th season or if this season is the end for the series ender.

In the end pretty good episode and another quality episode for the most part. So i would rate this episode i say a 7 out of 10. Knocked out a few points on things i didnt like in the episode.

 

[mellyM]

I think people have to stop blaming Lana for Clark's actions, Clark is an adult, he's responsible for his actions, Lana is not forcing him to do anything, he's the one having doubts about what type of life he really wants. All this Lana hatred is kind of misogynistic, just too easy to blame her instead of CK.

The episode was good for the most part, nice scenes with Turpin, Ollie and MM, plus some development regarding Tess, now we know why she decides the merger.

I totally agree

 

[Hobodeluxe]

things I liked

The Great Gazoo hanging from the rearview of Jonn's car.
Seeing Lex's power suit (Prometheus) on the puter screen
Emil Hamilton being mentioned. But really could he disguise alien physiology in a surgery room? And what about Jonn's real form? How can he lose his power and stay human looking?
anyhoo I think that scene with Lana at the end will be our last.
he's going to realize he loves Lois more.

if they are using a new team this season it's working for me. the writing and the acting is better.

 

[Tron5000]

im surprised no one is mentioning the extremely brief glimpse of lex in his power suit. just before the cat fight, lana was looking at the information on the drive that she stole from tess, and they have a "version 1" and "version 2", where version 1 has a bald headed person in some sort of suit. i can only speculate that it is supposed to be lex.

overall, not too terrible an episode, but i had a feeling it wouldnt be as good as the previous two. i would get a picture of the suit, but no way of capturing it. those who taped (old school, i know) or dvr'd it, check it again, im pretty sure its there.

Yeah, that was pretty sweet. Perhaps the suit is the Promotheus project, which Tess said is vital to keeping Lex alive.

 

[SV Fan]

I think people have to stop blaming Lana for Clark's actions, Clark is an adult, he's responsible for his actions, Lana is not forcing him to do anything, he's the one having doubts about what type of life he really wants. All this Lana hatred is kind of misogynistic, just too easy to blame her instead of CK.

I blame the writers/producers and the fact they try to pass off this as entertainment. The reason I dislike Lana is because when she and Clark are in a scene it regresses to crap like this(Clark becoming a lovesick fool). So basically when it comes to stating who and what I hate it's easier to just say Lana because so much of her storyline involves crappy angsty romantic plots with Clark , so it much easier to say Lana then trying to explain exactly what I hate in long winded paragraphs like this.

I was perfectly fine with the Lana storyarc this episode with tess

 

[Webhead2006]

ya totally any time there is lana and clark in any romantic ways it takes clark down a peg from good hero development into the crap lovesick foolish BDA from years past.

 

[Prison Mike]

I blame Clark too . But you can't deny that lana is not at fault . She's had negative influence . Clark's used her as an excuses through out this entire series run . He rather be with her and forsake his destiny . Than be The Hero he's destined to become at this point in his life .


The world is in need of a savior that will be inspiration to many. A light to those who have lost their way in the darkness. A champion of justice, etc... Deep down Clark knows he's that he's the one . But what's holding him back is his desire to be with lana, when he himself knows it's just not ment to be .

how is that lana's fault. it seems like it's 100% Clark's fault by the way you described it.