88th Annual Academy Awards

[Sawyer]

Too bad they decided to drain all the color out of them again.

Color is for pansies!!!1!

 

[Schlosser85]

No, I thought Ant-Man was meh.

My #1 is Winter Soldier.

But I'd put several above Age of Ultron.

 

[flickchick85]

See, while I love TWS and Ant-Man, I think the MCU is full of a lot of ugly films. Like the production design and costumes look poor next to what you see on Game of Thrones, and much worse when compared to other award winning productions. Now Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Agent Carter. Those are a bit different imo. They deserve a lot of praise, including legit awards.

I personally like the bright and sunny MCU aesthetic, and I don't think it's a sign of poor production values at all. But like I said, there are exceptions - I thought Thor was a hideous film and I didn't care for the camera work in TWS, but I feel the majority hit their mark. And the costumes for most have been great, imo. I actually thought DD's cinematography was too dark and murky (the final costume iffy as well) and GoT's wigs are straight-up embarrassing, but to each their own.

I still think TDK should have won best picture in 2008. Well that or Wall-E, but I am like that.

But I totally agree there. t:

 

[Snow Queen]

I personally like the bright and sunny MCU aesthetic, and I don't think it's a sign of poor production values at all. But like I said, there are exceptions - I thought Thor was a hideous film and I didn't care for the camera work in TWS, but I feel the majority hit their mark. And the costumes for most have been great, imo. I actually thought DD's cinematography was too dark and murky and GoT's wigs are straight-up embarrassing, but to each their own.

But I totally agree there. t:

You're killing me here.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Color is for pansies!!!1!

Pansy and proud.

 

[Schlosser85]

#MutantLivesMatter

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No, I thought Ant-Man was meh.

My #1 is Winter Soldier.

But I'd put several above Age of Ultron.

Oh, I thought we were talking about last year. TWS is my favorite MCU film as well. Love it quite a bit.

 

[flickchick85]

You're killing me here.

I liked the look they were going for, I just felt like they pushed it too far to the point in some scenes I had to adjust the brightness on my screen to even see what was going on, and I've never had to do that for anything else I've watched on it.

 

[Sawyer]

#MutantLivesMatter

#OscarsSoHomosapien

 

[kedrell]

Whether you liked it is irrelevant.

How can an individual say this? "Whether I liked it" frankly is the #1 reason anybody champions a movie or not. It's all entirely subjective.

Quality craftsmanship is quality craftsmaship regardless.

The definition of 'quality' is definitely not locked. Somebody can say 'we worked really, really hard on this' and that could be 100% true yet it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to come across to the audience member.

That is why it belongs in that category. Anyone, that's being remotely honest about the film can look at it and see that it belongs in the Best Picture category. The stunt work, camerawork, storytelling, editing, art design, costuming, and production value are all top notch.

The Best Picture category is for the whole movie taken as one complete piece, right? I can't count the number of scenes and other such aspects of films that were very well done when taken on their own yet the movie as a whole sucked. There are literally thousands of movies like that. What I'm saying is that TO ME this is one of those movies. The whole is less than the sum of it's parts and I did not enjoy myself watching it. Ditto for Ex Machina BTW.

Just speaking for myself, there are a number of films I dislike, but I can admit that they deserve their awards and adoration.

By all means, I did not comment on the movie in other technical categories because there I can see more of an understandable case being made. I may not agree with it but at least I can see how some people would.

American Beauty, Slumdog Millionaire, and Hurt Locker are three BP winners that I don't like at all, but they are all three very well made films. They just aren't my cup of tea the same way Mad Max isn't yours.

See to me a movie...ANY MOVIE has 1 distinct job above all others as a piece of entertainment art. To entertain me the audience member. If a movie fails to do that then it to me has failed and is a bad movie. And no amount of well done elements that are in the movie can change that.

It's like people who separate their favorite movies of the year from what they think are the best movies of the year. I simply do not understand this mentality and never have. To me the two are inseparable. My favorite movie of the year is by definition the movie I think is the best picture(that I saw, at least) of that year. It's that way for me every year.

So I decided to post my opinions on this upcoming Oscar awards for no particular reason. I usually don't give it much concern since the movies I really like and which catch my interest are rarely represented at any awards, let alone the Oscars. I usually ignore awards completely. But I decided differently this year and let fly my opinions. Nobody needed to respond to them. They were not in any way shape or form a challenge to a debate. Debating opinions strikes me as a exercise in idiocy anyway. People are stubborn and they are going to think what they want to think and believe what suits them to believe. Trying to change that is a waste of time. I was just having my 2 cents out and that's it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I personally like the bright and sunny MCU aesthetic, and I don't think it's a sign of poor production values at all. But like I said, there are exceptions - I thought Thor was a hideous film and I didn't care for the camera work in TWS, but I feel the majority hit their mark. And the costumes for most have been great, imo. I actually thought DD's cinematography was too dark and murky (the final costume iffy as well) and GoT's wigs are straight-up embarrassing, but to each their own.

See, I don't seem them as bright and sunny. A lot of the time they look washed out, or overly dark, depending on whether they need to hide something or not. It is one of the reasons I adore the "old footage" in Ant-Man. Looks so much better then the majority of their films. The films are also full of the CGI fog I dislike a lot. Now if we want to talk bright and sunny, TFA and Fury Road beckon. The depth of color and the incredible lived in nature of things. Something else.

I think Jessica Jones looks better then Daredevil, but Daredevil had a nice, defined look. I agree on the final costume, but I dug the look of everything else, especially his first suit.

But I totally agree there. t:

 

[DarthSkywalker]

How can an individual say this? "Whether I liked it" frankly is the #1 reason anybody champions a movie or not. It's all entirely subjective.



The definition of 'quality' is definitely not locked. Somebody can say 'we worked really, really hard on this' and that could be 100% true yet it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to come across to the audience member.



The Best Picture category is for the whole movie taken as one complete piece, right? I can't count the number of scenes and other such aspects of films that were very well done when taken on their own yet the movie as a whole sucked. There are literally thousands of movies like that. What I'm saying is that TO ME this is one of those movies. The whole is less than the sum of it's parts and I did not enjoy myself watching it. Ditto for Ex Machina BTW.



By all means, I did not comment on the movie in other technical categories because there I can see more of an understandable case being made. I may not agree with it but at least I can see how some people would.



See to me a movie...ANY MOVIE has 1 distinct job above all others as a piece of entertainment art. To entertain me the audience member. If a movie fails to do that then it to me has failed and is a bad movie. And no amount of well done elements that are in the movie can change that.

It's like people who separate their favorite movies of the year from what they think are the best movies of the year. I simply do not understand this mentality and never have. To me the two are inseparable. My favorite movie of the year is by definition the movie I think is the best picture(that I saw, at least) of that year. It's that way for me every year.

So I decided to post my opinions on this upcoming Oscar awards for no particular reason. I usually don't give it much concern since the movies I really like and which catch my interest are rarely represented at any awards, let alone the Oscars. I usually ignore awards completely. But I decided differently this year and let fly my opinions. Nobody needed to respond to them. They were not in any way shape or form a challenge to a debate. Debating opinions strikes me as a exercise in idiocy anyway. People are stubborn and they are going to think what they want to think and believe what suits them to believe. Trying to change that is a waste of time. I was just having my 2 cents out and that's it.

You try to champion films here? I am shocked, shocked to find that out.

 

[flickchick85]

See, I don't seem them as bright and sunny. A lot of the time they look washed out, or overly dark, depending on whether they need to hide something or not. It is one of the reasons I adore the "old footage" in Ant-Man. Looks so much better then the majority of their films. The films are also full of the CGI fog I dislike a lot. Now if we want to talk bright and sunny, TFA and Fury Road beckon. The depth of color and the incredible lived in nature of things. Something else.

They look bright and colorful to me. *shrug*

Mad Max had a highly stylized look that I wouldn't compare to the others. Everything was to the extreme because of the whole "Miller wanted black-and-white" thing. With TFA, I LOVED the look of the Jakku scenes and the forest, but when they went to darker interiors (like Han's freighter or the inside of Starkiller base during the climax), I didn't care as much for how that stuff looked.

I think Jessica Jones looks better then Daredevil, but Daredevil had a nice, defined look. I agree on the final costume, but I dug the look of everything else, especially his first suit.

Jessica Jones looked great, no argument there. And I love the look of Agent Carter as well.

 

[Snow Queen]

Jessica Jones was definitely the better looking of the two, though I quite liked Daredevil's as well and didn't run into issues (as far as I recall) seeing anything. With those two and Agent Carter looking so nice, it's surprising the films look so poor, generally speaking.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They look bright and colorful to me. *shrug*

What am I suppose to say to this? You have given me nothing to argue.

Jessica Jones looked great. And I love the look of Agent Carter as well.

I love the production design of Agent Carter, but the cinematography is a tad bit too soft for me. I don't know if that is a production thing or the fact that ABC has a crappy HD signal.

 

[kedrell]

I do have to say, despite being a HUGE MCU fan, I really can't understand how AOU could deserve a BP spot. If Kedrell would mind elaborating on that and some of his other comments, I think we could all have a very nice conversation.

In case I was not clear enough, I said I never expected a BP nom for AoU and it not getting it doesn't surprise me in the least, nor does it bother me at this point. I've long ago accepted that the Academy and I almost never see eye to eye. Maybe once in my lifetime when RotK won a decade ago were we sympatico. I'm 40 years old now so that's once in all those decades. So I'll not argue the merits of AoU getting BP. What would be the point. As far as I'm concerned I enjoyed it more than any other film this year and so that settles it as far as my own opinions are concerned. Sure, Creed and Spotlight came close as well. I gave them both the same grade as I gave AoU, a 9/10. Those are the only 3 movies I gave that high a score to this year. And only 1 is nominated for BP. So I disagree with the Academy once again on that. What else is new. My post was simply a statement of opinions rather than a challenge for a debate. But some people around here don't seem to be able to lets contrary opinions go without commenting on them. Whatever, to them they can enjoy the exercise in futility.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Jessica Jones was definitely the better looking of the two, though I quite liked Daredevil's as well and didn't run into issues (as far as I recall) seeing anything. With those two and Agent Carter looking so nice, it's surprising the films look so poor, generally speaking.

Less CGI means less need to hide it. It is one of the reasons why in think the training camp stuff in TFA looks so good. Outside of Steve, they didn't really need to do much in terms of CGI, so they were good to just like the cinematography shine.

 

[flickchick85]

What am I suppose to say to this? You have given me nothing to argue.




I love the production design of Agent Carter, but the cinematography is a tad bit too soft for me. I don't know if that is a production thing or the fact that ABC has a crappy HD signal.

No, they're using one of those soft filters that they used to use on female characters in old movies all the time, lol. It's stylistic preference, but I dig it. I just think it works for their whole "retro" feel.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

In case I was not clear enough, I said I never expected a BP nom for AoU and it not getting it doesn't surprise me in the least, nor does it bother me at this point. I've long ago accepted that the Academy and I almost never see eye to eye. Maybe once in my lifetime when RotK won a decade ago were we sympatico. I'm 40 years old now so that's once in all those decades. So I'll not argue the merits of AoU getting BP. What would be the point. As far as I'm concerned I enjoyed it more than any other film this year and so that settles it as far as my own opinions are concerned. Sure, Creed and Spotlight came close as well. I gave them both the same grade as I gave AoU, a 9/10. Those are the only 3 movies I gave that high a score to this year. And only 1 is nominated for BP. So I disagree with the Academy once again on that. What else is new. My post was simply a statement of opinions rather than a challenge for a debate. But some people around here don't seem to be able to lets contrary opinions go without commenting on them. Whatever, to them they can enjoy the exercise in futility.

You don't want to debate on a discussion board? You just want to come in, make an obvious inflammatory statement and then walk out and say, "Who me?"

I can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with that...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No, they're using one of those soft filters that they used to use on female characters in old movies all the time, lol. It's stylistic preference, but I dig it. I just think it works for their whole "retro" feel.

I like it as well. I think I didn't make my point clear. I understand the idea behind the look, it is just a bit too soft for me, like a lot of shows on ABC.

ABC has a rather crappy HD channel. I am not even sure if they broadcast in 1080p yet. There is always a jump between the blu-ray and broadcast, but it is stark with ABC.

 

[kedrell]

Nothing in the MCU thus far has deserved an Oscar outside of a technical one like SFX.

That's one opinion and I respect your right to hold it. I thoroughly disagree as over the last 7 years they've been in business 5 of those years they have had my favorite movie of each year among their ranks. But that's just my own opinion.

 

[Sithborg]

What I see a lot is that people need to separate what they like with quality, and vise versa. I am bored of the MCU, but I don't necessarily think they are bad movies. And there are ton of movies that I like that I know are not very good, quality wise.

A good chunk of the Oscar nominees aren't for me. Doesn't mean they are bad films.

 

[kedrell]

You don't want to debate on a discussion board? You just want to come in, make an obvious inflammatory statement and then walk out and say, "Who me?"

I can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with that...

So disagreeing with the majority(around here) is the measure of inflammatory? Boy have we gone downhill then.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What I see a lot is that people need to separate what they like with quality, and vise versa. I am bored of the MCU, but I don't necessarily think they are bad movies. And there are ton of movies that I like that I know are not very good, quality wise.

A good chunk of the Oscar nominees aren't for me. Doesn't mean they are bad films.

It is just a weird argument. Especially when you enter a theater a fan of something already giving it a high mark before you see a single frame.

I love TFA. It is my favorite film I saw last year. #2 and 3 would be Fury Road and Inside Out. I'd say the last two are legit Best Picture contenders imo, while I'd only think about a nod for Abrams and editing in the big categories for TFA. And when I think about it, probably not. I still have to watch a few of the Best Picture contenders, and I am sure a few would knock him out.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So disagreeing with the majority(around here) is the measure of inflammatory? Boy have we gone downhill then.

You know what you did. You do it in TFA forum. Just because it is your opinion doesn't mean you have to be rude about it.