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93rd Annual Academy Awards

Is anybody else screaming at the fact that all of the winners at the beginning of the night rambled on and on with speeches that felt like twenty minutes, and then the show ended with Frances McDormand speaking all of four sentences and Anthony Hopkins being a no show?

Disaster.
Anthony Hopkins was in his homeland of Wales sleeping while the Oscars were taking place. Not exactly sure it would have been a good idea for him to stay up until 4 AM GMT because of it.
 
I haven't seen either Boseman or Hopkins performances, so I can't judge who I felt was the "best".

That said, the Academy is old, out of step, and out of touch, so the idea that their choices probably don't resonate with alot of people isn't too surprising.

That's pretty much been par for the course the last several years at least.
 
The Moonlight fiasco still takes the cake
The Moonlight fiasco was awkward but at least it was entertaining. The producers switching the order of the show and swapping Best Picture with Best Actor expecting to end the night with a Boseman tribute without actually knowing the winner is just awkwardly cringey. The producers should have been tipped off about the big winners at the beginning of the show so they had time to rearrange the order. Unless of course they did find out and just kept it that way to prevent everyone from tuning out after watching Boseman lose. They have to know these things in advance sometimes. When Martin Scorsese won Best Director for The Departed, they had Spielberg, Lucas and Coppola come out to present it. I don't know what the excuse was this time.
 
He could‘ve get up early - and early to bed as an exception.
He had the best chances besides Chadwick
I think he‘s happy for the Award, but he doesn’t care for those award shows any more ( also BAFTA where he knew, that none of the other british actors had a chance).
He also didn’t show up last year, when he was nominated (last time was Amistad, i guess)
 
I don't see how that's an excuse for people specifically targetting him on social media, but okay.

Also he's 83 years old to keep in mind.
 
Anthony Hopkins was in his homeland of Wales sleeping while the Oscars were taking place. Not exactly sure it would have been a good idea for him to stay up until 4 AM GMT because of it.
I'm not faulting him by any means. I'm just saying, in terms of optics this couldn't have been more of a colossal ****-up. The fact that Boseman's widow was in attendance and needlessly strung along with this category swap only for her deceased spouse to lose to a man who wasn't even in attendance is not a good look. Has nothing to do with Hopkins himself.
 
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Oh I agree. They definitely messed up big time here and giving people's hopes up that Chadwick Boseman would win Best Actor is scummy to say the least. :up:
 
I’m glad I didn’t watch the ceremony, just watching people live tweet it. Only part I watched was Youn’s speech, which was awesome.
 
This is one hell of a stat for Best Actress.

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I'm not faulting him by any means. I'm just saying, in terms of optics this couldn't have been more of a colossal ****-up. The fact that Boseman's widow was in attendance and needlessly strung along with this category swap only for her deceased spouse to lose to a man wasn't even in attendance is not a good look. Has nothing to do with Hopkins himself.

Just the latest example of forced pandering by the Academy that completely backfired. "Let's rearrange the awards so that we can end with a big celebration of the dead, black actor! That will be newsworthy and appease the liberal media!"

If anything, this was a disservice to both Boseman and Hopkins.
 
Just the latest example of forced pandering by the Academy that completely backfired. "Let's rearrange the awards so that we can end with a big celebration of the dead, black actor! That will be newsworthy and appease the liberal media!"

If anything, this was a disservice to both Boseman and Hopkins.
Yep. And Chloe Zhao too. First Asian woman to win Best Director in what should have been a bigger moment, but she also fell victim to this ridiculous category swap.

I've only been watching the Oscars for fifteen years, but this is easily the worst ceremony I've seen.
 
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Everyone thinking this was a big mistake by the producers or the Moonlight/LaLaLand mix up, try watching the opening number of the 1989 Oscars on Youtube. It literally got the producer blacklisted until his death. Lucille Ball had to hold Rob Lowe's hand backstage to give him comfort.
 
Yep. And Chloe Zhao too. First Asian woman to win Best Director in what should have been a bigger moment, but she also fell victim to the category swap.

Also, virtually no clips of the movies or performances themselves? Instead offering personal backstories and anecdotes about the filmmakers and actors? What were they thinking? Not only did very few people see the nominated films this year (probably less than ever), but if someone decided to tune into the show, they wouldn't even get to see any examples of the films or performances.

Maybe I'm getting old, but I miss the Oscars of yester-year. I miss having a host, I miss the host doing the light ribbings of the movies and filmmakers in attendance, I miss the celebration of all of the films of the past year, etc. (The musical performances -- I can live without)

Even though I agree with many of the views, I am not a fan of all of the political preaching that has been becoming more and more present in the ceremony each year. That is not why anyone watches this show. There are plenty of other shows and stations to watch for that, every single day. Regina King referenced the Derek Chauvin trial in what I think was the very first sentence of the night. It's not surprising why so many viewers feel alienated from this show.
 
Also, virtually no clips of the movies or performances themselves? Instead offering personal backstories and anecdotes about the filmmakers and actors? What were they thinking? Not only did very few people see the nominated films this year (probably less than ever), but if someone decided to tune into the show, they wouldn't even get to see any examples of the films or performances.

Maybe I'm getting old, but I miss the Oscars of yester-year. I miss having a host, I miss the host doing the light ribbings of the movies and filmmakers in attendance, I miss the celebration of all of the films of the past year, etc. (The musical performances -- I can live without)

Even though I agree with many of the views, I am not a fan of all of the political preaching that has been becoming more and more present in the ceremony each year. That is not why anyone watches this show. There are plenty of other shows and stations to watch for that, every single day. Regina King referenced the Derek Chauvin trial in what I think was the very first sentence of the night. It's not surprising why so many viewers feel alienated from this show.

I just edited my post above. This is easily the worst Oscar ceremony I've ever watched. Nevermind the disastrous misfire at the end. Whoever thought it was a good idea to not include clips should never be allowed to produce an awards show ever again.

The fact that Joe Schmoe used to be a telemarketer doesn't make me want to watch his short film, now does it? Those clips are often the first exposure people get to those films. Horrible, horrible decision.
 
I will say the ceremony did start off strong... even the preshow where I thought the musical performances was one of the highlights of the whole night.










 
I just edited my post above. This is easily the worst Oscar ceremony I've ever watched. Nevermind the disastrous misfire at the end. Whoever thought it was a good idea to not include clips should never be allowed to produce an awards show ever again.

The fact that Joe Schmoe used to be a telemarketer doesn't make me want to watch his short film, now does it?

Exactly. I actually liked the cinematic look, cinematography, and presentation of the show, which I thought was a cool touch. But there was not much else to enjoy.
 
Just the latest example of forced pandering by the Academy that completely backfired. "Let's rearrange the awards so that we can end with a big celebration of the dead, black actor!

But... but...

In planning the final presentation, the Oscar producers (surely) must have considered “What if Boseman doesn’t win?” as a distinct possibility. After all, Oscar history is full of famous snubs. E.g.: For the 1996 awards, the iconic Lauren Bacall was deemed a shoo-in and sentimental favorite for Best Supporting Actress. A) She had (amazingly!) never even been nominated before. B) She was getting on in years; and this was likely to be her last shot. And the winner is… Juliette Binoche.

:ebr:
 
But... but...

In planning the final presentation, the Oscar producers (surely) must have considered “What if Boseman doesn’t win?” as a distinct possibility. After all, Oscar history is full of famous snubs. E.g.: For the 1996 awards, the iconic Lauren Bacall was deemed a shoo-in and sentimental favorite for Best Supporting Actress. A) She had (amazingly!) never even been nominated before. B) She was getting on in years; and this was likely to be her last shot. And the winner is… Juliette Binoche.

:ebr:

The move was done with ratings in mind, which is extremely ****ty considering Boseman's widow was there. If there was even the slightest possibility that Boseman would lose, the category should have been done in its normal slot. Moving it to the end called that much more attention to it.
 
But... but...

In planning the final presentation, the Oscar producers (surely) must have considered “What if Boseman doesn’t win?” as a distinct possibility. After all, Oscar history is full of famous snubs. E.g.: For the 1996 awards, the iconic Lauren Bacall was deemed a shoo-in and sentimental favorite for Best Supporting Actress. A) She had (amazingly!) never even been nominated before. B) She was getting on in years; and this was likely to be her last shot. And the winner is… Juliette Binoche.

:ebr:

It also gave the impression that Best Actor was more important than Best Picture in general, which doesn't make any sense.
 
Even though I agree with many of the views, I am not a fan of all of the political preaching that has been becoming more and more present in the ceremony each year. That is not why anyone watches this show. There are plenty of other shows and stations to watch for that, every single day. Regina King referenced the Derek Chauvin trial in what I think was the very first sentence of the night. It's not surprising why so many viewers feel alienated from this show.

It's why a host is needed. To lighten the atmosphere and call out things. Basically they're the audience surrogate. Going host-less has always been a dumb decision.

Everyone thinking this was a big mistake by the producers or the Moonlight/LaLaLand mix up, try watching the opening number of the 1989 Oscars on Youtube. It literally got the producer blacklisted until his death. Lucille Ball had to hold Rob Lowe's hand backstage to give him comfort.

Train wreck or secretly brilliant?

 
For people who complain about winners making statements on social justice of political issues, I have to say I much prefer that over whatever the hell Frances McDormand was doing last night. Was she ****faced?
 

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