Abuse of Power Thread (Cops, Governments, Etc.) - Part 1

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

It's freaking stupid Kev, no way does any normal citizen get away with that

 

[BrollySupersj]

Video Shows Idaho Police Gun Down Mentally-Ill Pregnant Woman

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/apr/03/idaho-police-shooting-jeanetta-riley-video

Vid at the link, another instance of the mentally ill being killed by the police

That's just horrible, is this not why cops carry tasers, batons, and pepper spray? To perform non lethal take downs? This woman needed help, not be pumped full of foreign projectiles.

 

[Teelie]

How do you confuse a taser and a gun? Complete BS.

Some of those models are made to resemble the grip of a gun so that they feel familar when using them. Obviously someone in the design department didn't realize making a taser or stun gun feel like a firearm was a bad idea.

I don't know what kind the officer had in this case although it sounds like he should not have been a cop at all.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

The TSA Is Using Behavior Screening To Identify Undocumented Immigrants

The Transportation Security Administration uses full-body scanners and other equipment to gauge whether travelers are a threat or not. And as much as it sucks to go through the TSA’s invasive X-ray and scanning checkpoints, it turns out the TSA’s tactics are pretty messed up even when they’re low-tech.

One of the TSA’s lowest-tech methods of sniffing out potential terrorists— Screening of Passengers by Observation Techniques, or SPOT, which is seriously just deciding whether or not someone is sketchy based on how they act—has been used to identify unauthorized immigrants far more than it has terrorists, according to The Intercept:

But in one five-week period at a major international airport in the United States in 2007, the year the program started, only about 4 percent of the passengers who were referred to secondary screening or law enforcement by behavior detection officers were arrested, and nearly 90 percent of those arrests were for being in the country illegally, according to a TSA document obtained by The Intercept.​

The TSA spent $900 million on a program that essentially boils down to “hey look out for nervous-looking people who don’t speak English.”

This just goes to show you that the TSA doesn’t even need to turn on the body scanner to step way over the line. SPOT is only a screening methodology by name—it is thoroughly unscientific profiling. The Intercept’s report makes it clear yet again that airport security is in desperate need of an overhaul.

Update 5:15 ET: A TSA spokesperson contacted me with a statement on how the agency’s behavioral screening program—which is now called Behavior Detection and Analysis, not SPOT—works:

“Behavior detection, which is just one element of the Transportation Security Administration’s (TSA) efforts to mitigate threats against the traveling public, is vital to TSA’s layered approach to deter, detect and disrupt individuals who pose a threat to aviation.

“Terrorists have used a variety of items and ways to attempt to inflict harm to aircraft — everything from shoes to liquids — but consistent across all methods of attack is the malicious intent of the actor. Looking for suspicious behavior is a common sense approach used by law enforcement and security personnel across the country and the world, that focuses on those behavioral indicators, rather than items, and when used in combination with other security layers helps mitigate a variety of threats.

“The Behavior Detection and Analysis (BDA) program is designed to detect individuals who exhibit anomalous behaviors indicating they fear discovery and may pose a risk to aviation security. The program was created by TSA, using behavior analysis techniques that have been successfully employed by law enforcement and security personnel both in the U.S. and internationally. No single behavior alone will cause a traveler to be referred to additional screening or will result in a call to a law enforcement officer (LEO). Officers are trained and audited to ensure referrals for additional screening are based only on observable behaviors and not race or ethnicity.”​

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/...tion-program-targeting-immigrants-terrorists/

The TSA is a joke, my mom worked there for 12 years and said almost everyone that works there is a complete idiot

 

[mrvlknight21]

Reserve Deputy Who Shot and Killed Suspect Meant to Use Taser

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/crim...cle_67394595-5b09-59d1-a791-ae543e4cfcd1.html

Why the hell does some 73 year old guy have a badge and a gun in the first place? So if I get into an altercation with someone and shoot and kill them and tell the cops, "Oh I meant to use my taser." no murder charges for me then huh? What a bunch of BS

How do you confuse a taser and a gun? Complete BS.

It has happened before.
The ironic thing is the item pictured here is NOT a Taser. Rather, it's a stun gun. There are some ignorant people working in the media....unfortunately, their voice is heard more often than knowledgeable individuals. That said, I didn't see that photo in the article when I went to it through the link. Did DJ Kiddvicious add the picture of the incorrect item in an attempt to emphasize a point?

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

No I know that wasn't an accurate representation of the weapon used but that was the one used for the original article. Doesn't explain why this man isn't facing murder charges though, that is some BS

 

[mrvlknight21]

No I know that wasn't an accurate representation of the weapon used but that was the one used for the original article. Doesn't explain why this man isn't facing murder charges though, that is some BS

You can't be serious. Did we read the same article? You think the reserve deputy should face murder charges????

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Your damn right he should, he even said he only intended to use his taser which would me he was not in mortal danger. So if I shoot someone and say, oops I meant to use my taser, I'm not gonna go to prison for 25 to life? He had no business even having a badge, he was freaking 73

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Video of Cop Shooting Black Man in Back Leads to Murder Charge

A South Carolina cop who shot an unarmed black man in the back before apparently planting evidence near his dead body was arrested and charged with murder after graphic video of the shooting surfaced Tuesday.

According to the Post and Courier, the officer—North Charleston Patrolman Michael Slager—told authorities he "feared for his life" when 50-year-old Walter L. Scott took his taser during a traffic stop.

During the foot chase, Scott confronted Slager, according to the statement from the officer’s lawyer. Slager got out his Taser to subdue the man, but Scott took the device during a struggle, the statement said. That’s when the officer fired at Scott several times because he “felt threatened,” it added.​

But on Tuesday, video footage obtained by Scott's lawyers showed a distinctly different chain of events. Via the New York Times:

The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr. Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr. Scott turns to run.

Something — it is not clear whether it is the stun gun — is either tossed or knocked to the ground behind the two men and Officer Slager draws his gun, the video shows. When the officer fires, Mr. Scott appears to be 15 to 20 feet away and fleeing. He falls after the last of eight shots.​

After telling Scott—who had collapsed—to put his hands behind his back, Slager handcuffed his wrists and jogged back to the spot where they struggled. There, he picks something up off the ground and, a few seconds later, tosses what appears to be the taser on the ground near Scott's body.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/u...der-in-black-mans-death.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0

I hope he rots in prison

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I like how quickly he regained composure and handcuffed him and planted the taser near the body.

 

[Charlatan]

I like how quickly he regained composure and handcuffed him and planted the taser near the body.

it happens almost every day. the difference is this time someone got a good quality video of it. It will be interesting to see if the charges stick though since the law says they can shoot a fleeing suspect if they think he might be a danger to the public.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

it happens almost every day. the difference is this time someone got a good quality video of it. It will be interesting to see if the charges stick though since the law says they can shoot a fleeing suspect if they think he might be a danger to the public.

I know it's are natural state to lie even from childhood when we do something wrong and don't want to get caught.

I wonder if the "I feared for my life" is going to be phased out by police associations.




And not being able to run down a 50 year old who was running at a barely jogging pace.

 

[Kar]

Video of Cop Shooting Black Man in Back Leads to Murder Charge



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/u...der-in-black-mans-death.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0

I hope he rots in prison

Imagine if this wasn't caught on camera? It'd be Darren Wilson and Mike Brown all over again, with people on here believing every word the cop said. Its things like this video that make it hard for people to believe anything most cops have to say.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I'm still of the mindset that this kind of thing is the exception rather than the rule but you are correct that when things like this happen it makes every cop look bad regardless if they are one of the good ones or not.

 

[Asgard]

I just saw the video. There is no way those cops can try and justify that shooting. He shot Scott in the back as he was running away. He was at least 20 feet away before he started firing. And it clearly shows him picking up the taser and tossing it near the body so it would bolster his lie about Scott taking the stun gun away from him. That **** was infuriatingly horrible.

Imagine if there was no video. This murderer couldve walked free.

 

[Breogan]

It will be interesting to see if the charges stick though since the law says they can shoot a fleeing suspect if they think he might be a danger to the public.

If so, the murder charge won't stick. and he'll get off, at 00:18 you can see the tazer knocked out of the cops hand. This will be used to argue he was a "threat/danger to the public".

That he later picked up the tazer and moved it near the body, will cost him his job, but not the shooting.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I don't follow the logic that knocking a taser out of the cops hand somehow makes him a danger to the public

 

[Docker2.0]

Imagine if this wasn't caught on camera? It'd be Darren Wilson and Mike Brown all over again, with people on here believing every word the cop said. Its things like this video that make it hard for people to believe anything most cops have to say.

Sorry bro but Mike Brown is debatable. But I get your point and you are right. But you have people who still defend the cop like he's a saint. It's crazy. And people say racism left when Obama was elected.

 

[loretta]

Imagine if this wasn't caught on camera? It'd be Darren Wilson and Mike Brown all over again, with people on here believing every word the cop said. Its things like this video that make it hard for people to believe anything most cops have to say.

Well, Eric Garner's death was caught on camera but Pantaleo wasn't even indicted. Also victim-blaming will be at it's highest again - "he shouldn't have run away"- Faux News

 

[Breogan]

I don't follow the logic that knocking a taser out of the cops hand somehow makes him a danger to the public

I'll highlight it for you again, with emphasis, since there will be determination to ignore this part.
I guarantee you the lawyers will not though. The cop has already made the feared for his life claim.

the law says they can shoot a fleeing suspect if they think he might be a danger to the public.

That's likely what they will argue.

Also at 2:10 he picks up his taser again, so there goes any plant evidence, they'll argue he was just keeping track of it.

 

[Asgard]

it happens almost every day. the difference is this time someone got a good quality video of it. It will be interesting to see if the charges stick though since the law says they can shoot a fleeing suspect if they think he might be a danger to the public.

I think it has to be proven that he was an immediate danger to the cop or the public. Like if he had a weapon in his hand or if the cop witnessed him murdering someone before running.

Thats why the cop picked up the taser from where he shot Scott and planted it near his body. That way he can lie and say he took his taser from him and ran. He could then use that to try and justify his shooting of an armed suspect. Which he tried to do.

That cop should get life in prison or death.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

He stopped him for a broken tail light. Not drugs, gun possession, or be on the lookout for a "black male" bulletin.

Tasers don't work everytime. That's a known fact. If pepper spray doesn't blind a suspect, it doesn't suddenly mean you can now shoot them.


I still don't see how public threat is a logical defense.

 

[RockSP]

Well, Eric Garner's death was caught on camera but Pantaleo wasn't even indicted. Also victim-blaming will be at it's highest again - "he shouldn't have run away"- Faux News

John Crawford. Tamir Rice. The list goes on. We'll see what happens with this case. Actual guilt doesn't mean much as has been proven time and again.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's funny how the department's story changes after the media releases the video.

But where's the harm in treating cops as saintly heroes instead of remaining skeptical for justice-oriented reasons.

 

[Asgard]

http://www.abcnews4.com/story/28725...hot-killed-by-north-charleston-police-officer

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. (WCIV) -- The attorney for a North Charleston police officer who shot a 50-year-old man during a confrontation at a traffic stop Saturday says his client believes he followed proper procedure.

The incident began about 9:30 a.m. Saturday when Officer Michael Slager, 33, pulled 50-year-old Walter Scott over for a broken tail light at the corner of Remount and Craig roads.

Police and witnesses say Scott tried to run from Slager before turning to fight for the officer's Taser. It was during that scuffle that the officer fired his service weapon, fatally wounding Scott.

According to an incident report, officers heard Slager say over the radio that he had deployed his Taser and "seconds later" he said "Shots fired and the subject is down. He took my Taser."

Attorney David Aylor released a statement Monday that reiterated the police report.

“This is a very tragic event for all of the families," Aylor said. "I believe once the community hears all the facts of this shooting, they'll have a better understanding of the circumstances surrounding this investigation. Officer Slager believes he followed all the proper procedures and policies of the North Charleston Police Department.”

Police said Monday that Slager, who has been employed with the NCPD since December 2009 after serving in the Coast Guard, was placed on administrative duty.
Scott's family and friends gathered Sunday at the spot where Scott took his last breath.
"I still don't believe it to this day that he is gone,” said Anthony Scott, Walter's brother. “It happened so sudden and there is still so many unanswered question, it's just hard to believe."
Anthony Scott says the story coming from police officials doesn't sound like his brother.

“My brother is a kind and sweet person,” said Anthony Scott. “He talked to everybody, knew all our family members by name, anybody that came in touch with Walter loved him.”
Anthony Scott says his brother leaves behind a fiancee, kids, two siblings, parents and lots of people who say they loved him. Anthony Scott says he is going to miss watching football with his brother.

“He loved the Cowboys. We had planned to go to go see them play but I guess that won't happen now,” said Scott surrounded by family.
Those who went to gather to remember Scott prayed, gave speeches, and placed flowers in the spot they say he died.

Local community activists placed signs near where Scott died that read "Black Lives Matter," and "Was It Necessary?"

Members of the local chapter of NAACP, the National Action Network, and the People's Coalition say they want to make sure a fair investigation takes place into the officer-involved shooting.

Family say they won't rest until they know exactly what happened between the time he pulled over into the Advanced Auto Parts store parking for the traffic stop until the moment he died near a pawn shop up the street.
“All we want is the truth, and we'll go through anything to that so my brother can rest in peace,” said Scott.
The State Law Enforcement Division has taken over the investigation.

Look at the lies. Worst part is that without video evidence, he would have been exonerated.