Abuse of Power Thread (Cops, Governments, Etc.) - Part 1

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Tempest's post is an example of why these cops need to be properly trained. Too many times I've come in this thread to see people say things like "it's what I would have done". Guess what? It's not supposed to be what you would have done. It's about what you're SUPPOSED to do as a TRAINED OFFICER OF THE LAW. Black, white, Asian, whatever....stop killing unarmed men for nothing. Get that whole "he shouldn't have ran" stuff out of here. Because there are plenty of instances where a black man did not run and he was still killed. None of the crimes these people committed are NOT punishable by death and the way you all try to justify it is SAD. I'm so glad none of you are cops but the fact that anyone can get a badge and think the way you all do is the problem. Not the victims.

Tired of reading about trained armed professionals that fear for their lives against unarmed individuals. Tired of hearing about trained professionals that can't tell the difference between their tasers and pistols, or trained professionals that can't subdue suspects without killing them.
 
And here's the latest black man to become a hashtag: Eric Harris

http://abc7.la/1O3VQND

I'll save you all the trouble. "He shouldn't have ran. We all know a cop has the right to shoot you if you run." There.
 
Tempest's post is an example of why these cops need to be properly trained. Too many times I've come in this thread to see people say things like "it's what I would have done". Guess what? It's not supposed to be what you would have done. It's about what you're SUPPOSED to do as a TRAINED OFFICER OF THE LAW. Black, white, Asian, whatever....stop killing unarmed men for nothing. Get that whole "he shouldn't have ran" stuff out of here. Because there are plenty of instances where a black man did not run and he was still killed. None of the crimes these people committed are NOT punishable by death and the way you all try to justify it is SAD. I'm so glad none of you are cops but the fact that anyone can get a badge and think the way you all do is the problem. Not the victims.

Tired of reading about trained armed professionals that fear for their lives against unarmed individuals. Tired of hearing about trained professionals that can't tell the difference between their tasers and pistols, or trained professionals that can't subdue suspects without killing them.

And I'm tired of people saying that police should know that someone is just running because of whatever lame reason they've decided to run. Police don't have psychic abilities; they shouldn't be expected to act like they do.

Why are you running? Why are you resisting? What are you trying to hide? Why is your hand going to your waist? What's that in your hand? The amount of time it will take you to read this little paragraph is more time than it takes for a person to draw a weapon and start shooting.

Police have an instant to make a decision. Sometimes they're wrong. But you know what? There are few reports of officers shooting someone who is just standing around, minding their own business. There are just as few reports of officers shooting people who are being cooperative. In all these 'hashtag' cases, the person the officers have killed have been actively resisting arrest, or fleeing a possible arrest.

Now I'm sorry that these people have died. I know you probably don't believe that, but I am. And I understand that people don't want to go jail, particularly for small crimes. I can't blame them on that front. But I can blame them for making an officer have to make a split-second decision on how to respond.

So how would you respond? Just let the person go who is fleeing? Someone doesn't want to get arrested, you just back off, and not arrest them? Use mad martial arts skills? This isn't a movie. Soldiers are trained in hand to hand combat, but they still use guns. It's because it's safer for them. You get up close and personal with someone, and they can pull a gun or knife so quickly that you're injured before you even know what's happening.

And here's the latest black man to become a hashtag: Eric Harris

http://abc7.la/1O3VQND

I'll save you all the trouble. "He shouldn't have ran. We all know a cop has the right to shoot you if you run." There.

That was an accidental shooting. It shouldn't have happened. But yeah. The guy shouldn't have been illegally selling weapons. And he shouldn't have run.

Let me show you how callous I am. Let's balance out your boohooing over this man who was selling weapons that work their way into the hands of other, potentially more violent criminals. How many lives were saved because Eric Harris is now off the streets for good? I'm going to say that I'm not that sad that he's gone.
 
And here's the latest black man to become a hashtag: Eric Harris

http://abc7.la/1O3VQND

I'll save you all the trouble. "He shouldn't have ran. We all know a cop has the right to shoot you if you run." There.

After a brief foot chase, the video shows an officer subduing Harris and Reserve Deputy Robert Bates, 73, can be heard shouting "Taser!" before a single shot rings out. "I shot him," Bates says afterward, "I'm sorry."

Pinned by multiple sheriff's deputies, a panicked Harris repeats "He shot me!" eight times before saying, "I'm losing my breath."

"F*** your breath," an officer replies.

At a press conference on Friday, Tulsa County Sheriff’s Capt. Billy McKelvey told reporters that deputies were not aware Harris had been shot, having not heard the weapon discharge.

McKelvey additionally noted that Bates' pistol and Taser had similar weights and both had laser sights. “He made an inadvertent mistake,” McKelvey said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-man-shot-deputy-meant-stun-article-1.2181787

I'm sorry but again if you intend to taze someone because your life is not in danger and then you shoot them, that is murder and you should be charged. I also find it hard to believe these cops did not know he was shot, usually when people are shot multiple times they tend to bleed.
 
California Cop Put on Leave For Allegedly Tickling Corpse

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A California cop has been placed on paid leave after allegedly playing with a corpse's feet, the New York Daily News reports. The man had been shot and killed by police after leading them on a high-speed chase in November.

Mark Geragos, the attorney representing the family of the man who was killed, told the Daily News that Bakersfield police officer Aaron Stringer pulled on the deceased Ramiro James Villegas' toes while saying "tickle tickle," manipulated the dead man's head and told a trainee that he "loved" playing with dead bodies.

"We are grossly disturbed by the ghoulish behavior of the police," Geragos said. "The family wants answers and accountability."

The internal investigation into Officer Stringer's actions at the Kern Medical Center came to light on Friday after the Bakersfield Californian obtained reports describing the incident.

The 22-year-old Villegas was shot and killed after a high-speed chase ended when he slammed into a traffic light pole, got out of his car and approached police in what they described as an aggressive manner, the Californian reports. Villegas was unarmed.

Stringer had taken his trainee, Lindy DeGeare, to see the body after interviewing witnesses at the scene. According to the Californian, Stringer did not have permission to touch the body.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...e-allegedly-tickling-corpse-article-1.2182101

What kind of psycho plays with dead bodies?
 
If there is any humor to be found, I saw a post elsewhere that made me chuckle.



:hehe:

How does anyone watch a video of someone who is running away get shot many times in the back in such a cowardly and inhumane way and justify it?

Your teenage son runs away from the police because he has a dimebag?

Boom, he deserves to die.

Your cousin runs away from the police because they crash an underage kegger.

Boom, he deserves to die.

It boggles the mind.
 
Bush Officials ​Screwed Up FBI's Case Against Blackwater, Emails Show

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Why did it take the federal government so long to prosecute the Blackwater contractors who shot up a Baghdad square in 2007, killing and maiming scores of Iraqis? Because investigators were trying to wait out the Bush administration, which wanted to go easy on the killers, recently unearthed documents show.

Four contractors face sentencing today for turning crowded Nisour Square into a free-fire zone in September 2007. But yesterday, The New York Times published excerpts from investigators' internal emails showing how they were pressured from above to back off key charges—and almost lost the entire case as a result:

The F.B.I. had wanted to charge the American contractors with the type of manslaughter, attempted manslaughter and weapons charges that could send them to prison for the rest of their lives for the shooting, which left more than a dozen Iraqis dead and many others wounded in September 2007.

But at the last minute, the Justice Department balked. In particular, senior officials were uncomfortable with bringing two machine-gun charges, each of which carried mandatory 30-year prison sentences.

"We are getting some serious resistance from our office to charging the defendants with mandatory minimum time," Kenneth Kohl, a federal prosecutor, told the lead F.B.I. agent on the case, John Patarini, as the Justice Department prepared to ask a grand jury to vote on an indictment in December 2008.

Mr. Patarini was incensed. "I would rather not present for a vote now and wait until the new administration takes office than to get an indictment that is an insult to the individual victims, the Iraqi people as a whole, and the American people who expect their Justice Department to act better than this," he replied.​

The Times focuses on J. Patrick Rowan, a top prosecutor of national security cases in the Bush administration, as an official who expressed discomfort with the stiff charges. Rowan, now in the private sector, declined to discuss the case in detail with the paper. Patarini, however, told the paper he was troubled then and now by a pattern among political leaders in the Justice Department to go soft on Blackwater contractors, including refusals to charge the Nisour attackers with second-degree murder or to punish their coworkers for lying to investigators.

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Patarini's frustration was shared by several other investigators, who preferred to wait until Bush left office rather than bring up the Blackwater guards on lesser charges, emails show:

"I think of Mohammad and his son every time they pull the rug a bit further out from under us," one agent, Thomas O'Connor, wrote. He was referring to an Iraqi man, Mohammed Hafedh Abdulrazzaq Kinani, whose 9-year-old son, Ali, was killed.

Andrew McCabe, an F.B.I. supervisor, took the grievances to his boss, John Perren, saying the Justice Department was "delaying and reducing" the indictment. "This is the latest in what has become a troubling habit by D.O.J.," he wrote...

"I would rather wait for a new administration than go forward without those charges," Carolyn Murphy, an F.B.I. agent, wrote.

And Michael Posillico, a State Department investigator assigned to the case, said, "It's hard for me to say we should wait for the Democrats, but this is one such time I have to."​

By the time a new president had come in, however, the prosecution was mired in missed deadlines and defense motions that almost sunk the entire endeavor.

Beyond the death and mayhem caused that autumn day in Baghdad, Blackwater's Nisour Square incident became a rallying cry for opponents to U.S. presence in Iraq and was a public relations debacle from which the American-led coalition never fully recovered. The convicted security contractors face maximum sentences ranging from 47 years to life in prison.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/13/u...ept-over-charges-in-blackwater-case.html?_r=2

Another addition to the ever growing and extremely long list of hate I have for W and Cheney' dumb asses
 
UPDATE: Cop Laughed About His Adrenaline Rush After Shooting Walter Scott

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According to a police recording obtained by the Guardian, North Charleston police officer Michael Slager laughed and talked about his "adrenaline pumping" immediately after shooting Walter Scott last Saturday.

During the recorded conversation, a senior police officer briefs Slager on department protocols for a police shooting, which Slager acknowledges with a laugh. Via the Guardian:

“Probably once they get you there, we’ll take you home. Take your crap off, take your vest off, kind of relax for two or three.”

“It’ll be real quick,” he said. “They’re gonna tell you you’re gonna be out for a couple of days and you’ll come back and they’ll interview you then. They’re not going to ask you any kind of questions right now. They’ll take your weapon and we’ll go from there. That’s pretty much it.”

The senior officer again reassured Slager that he would not have to explain the shooting on the record immediately. “The last one we had, they waited a couple of days to interview officially, like, sit down and tell what happened,” he said.

“By the time you get home, it would probably be a good idea to kind of jot down your thoughts on what happened,” the senior officer said. “You know, once the adrenaline quits pumping.”
“It’s pumping,” Slager said, laughing. The senior officer replied: “Oh yeah. Oh yeah.”​

Slager can also be heard on the recording answering a ringing cell phone before telling the caller, “He grabbed my taser, yeah. Yeah, he was running from me.”

Bystander video of the incident appears to show Slager plant the taser near Scott's body after the shooting.

Slager is now facing murder charges.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...chael-slager-audio-recording?CMP=share_btn_tw

You can listen to the recording at the link
 
Ex-Philly Drug Cop Admits to Taking Cash and Planting Evidence for Years

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A former Philadelphia narcotics cop testified in court today against six of his former co-workers, claiming the group stole drug money and planted evidence "too many times to count" during his nearly 15 years in the department's drug unit.

Jeffrey Walker was busted in an FBI sting in May 2013 and has been in custody since February 2014 after pleading guilty to stealing $15,000 in drug money and planting drugs in a suspect's car. He is now testifying against six other narcotics officers implicated in the FBI's investigation, including the group's alleged ringleader, officer Thomas Liciardello.

Walker testified in court today that the group would target "college-boy, khaki-pants types" because they were "easy to intimidate." From the Associated Press:

That matches the description of some of the drug dealers who have testified in recent weeks in the federal police corruption trial. The witnesses have said the squad stole as much as $80,000 at a time during illegal raids marked by threats and physical violence.

Walker, 46, said police brass applauded the drug squad because they made big arrests that made them look good. Squad leader Thomas Liciardello, the lead defendant, "produced big jobs, a lot of arrests," he said.

"They liked that, as far as the bosses and supervisors were concerned. It made them look good. It was nothing but a dog and pony show. That's all it is," Walker said.

Liciardello, he said, always got a cut of the money stolen or skimmed from drug suspects, while the others split the "jobs" they worked, Walker said.​

And according to the Philadelphia Inquirer's comprehensive rundown of Walker's 24-year police career, he's been dogged by corruption accusations for years:

Once in the prestigious drug unit, it took only a few years before things started to go awry and for the complaints to reach Internal Affairs. The first complaint came in 2002. Another came in '04, another in '05, and three in 2006.

The first settlement for a case with a payout attached - $75,000 - came in February 2004. After that, they kept coming.

Of the 22 complaints filed against Walker, the department sustained just one: from 2003 about a search without proper warrants. Of the 13 now-closed lawsuits filed against Walker, the city paid in seven of the cases for a total of $352,500.​

The FBI's corruption case, WPVI reports, has led to at least 160 drug convictions being overturned.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4f0e...r-says-he-stole-cash-planted-drugs-many-times

The BS war on drugs strikes again
 
Two Denver Airport TSA Agents Fired For Alleged Plot to Grope Hot Men

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CBS Denver has learned that two TSA agents at the Denver International Airport were fired in February after allegedly conspiring—on "roughly a dozen" instances—to allow one of the agents to grope the crotches of men he found attractive.

“He related that when a male he finds attractive comes to be screened by the scanning machine he will alert another TSA screener to indicate to the scanning computer that the party being screened is a female," police wrote in documents obtained by new station. "When the screener does this, the scanning machine will indicate an anomaly in the genital area and this allows (the male TSA screener) to conduct a pat-down search of that area."

Airport officials were apparently first alerted to the scheme in November of last year by an anonymous tip, but it wasn't until a supervisor observed the agents—one man and one woman—in action months later were the two fired:

On Feb. 9 TSA security supervisor Chris Higgins watched the screening area, observing the employees. “At about 0925 he observed (the male TSA screener) appear to give a signal to another screener … (the second female screener) was responsible for the touchscreen system that controls whether or not the scanning machine alerts to gender- specific anomalies, according to a law enforcement report obtained by CBS4.

According to the report, the TSA investigator then watched a male passenger enter the scanner at DIA “and observed (the female TSA agent) press the screening button for a female. The scanner alerted to an anomaly, and Higgins observed (the male TSA screener) conduct a pat down of the passenger’s front groin and buttocks area with the palm of his hands, which is contradictory to TSA searching policy.”​

The female TSA agent reportedly later confessed to the plot. No victims have come forward.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/04/...ia-manipulated-system-to-grope-mens-genitals/

The TSA is a bunch of useless morons and a huge waste of tax payer money
 
UPDATE: Tulsa Deputy Charged With Manslaughter Over "Inadvertent" Shooting

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The 73-year-old volunteer deputy who shot and killed Eric Harris after mistakenly drawing his gun instead of his Taser was charged with second-degree manslaughter on Monday, The New York Times reports.

The charge against Robert C. Bates—named the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office "Deputy of the Year" just three years ago—was announced in a statement today by the Tulsa County District Attorney's Office:

Mr. Bates is charged with Second-Degree Manslaughter involving culpable negligence. Oklahoma law defines culpable negligence as "the omission to do something which a reasonably careful person would do, or the lack of the usual ordinary care and caution in the performance of an act usually and ordinarily exercised by a person under similar circumstances and conditions."​

At a press conference on Friday, police released footage of the deadly shooting, which an officer characterized as "an inadvertent mistake." In the video, Bates can be heard shouting "Taser!" before a single gunshot rings out. "I shot him," Bates then says, "I'm sorry."

According to the Tulsa World, Bates is an insurance company executive who has donated thousands of dollars in equipment to the Sheriff's Office since being made a reserve deputy in 2008, including "multiple vehicles, guns and stun guns."

"There are lots of wealthy people in the reserve program," a Sheriff's Office spokesperson told the paper. "Many of them make donations of items. That’s not unusual at all."

Tulsa police say Bates previously worked in law enforcement for one year, from 1964 to 1965.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/u...ughter-after-mistaking-handgun-for-taser.html

Who could have guessed letting rich old idiots become deputies would ever turn out bad?
 
Ex-Philly Drug Cop Admits to Taking Cash and Planting Evidence for Years

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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4f0e...r-says-he-stole-cash-planted-drugs-many-times

The BS war on drugs strikes again

The BS war on drugs?? I definitely do not think that is the issue here. Corrupt a-holes running around like a scene from the movie Training Day is.

UPDATE: Tulsa Deputy Charged With Manslaughter Over "Inadvertent" Shooting

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/u...ughter-after-mistaking-handgun-for-taser.html

Who could have guessed letting rich old idiots become deputies would ever turn out bad?

I believe this is the guy you wanted charged with murder after you posted another article about it and I questioned your thoughts on what he should be charged with. I almost told you at the time that, based on the article, it was not even close to the needed elements for murder and sounded like a manslaughter case based on negligence.
 
I didn't necessarily mean murder specifically but I did want him charged with something
 
Dash Cam Shows Cop Intentionally Run Over an Armed Suspect With His Car

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Cops claim an Arizona police officer acted of necessity when he slammed into an armed suspect with his car, sending the man flying into the air.

The incident was captured on several dash cams, thanks to a number of police vehicles that responded to the February 19 call for a man firing shots into the air with a shot gun.

According to CNN, that man—36-year-old Mario Valencia—had been involved in a string of crimes earlier that day.

At 6:45 a.m., Valencia robbed a 7-Eleven in Tucson with a metal object in his hand. Authorities said he was dressed only in his underwear.

He was charged with theft.

A little more than an hour later, police said, Valencia set a fire at a church for which he was charged with arson of an occupied structure.

Just after that he entered a home and stole a car, police said.

Authorities said he drove to a Walmart where he stole a .30-30 rifle and ammunition. He fled the store with Walmart employees in pursuit.​

A Marana lieutenant tells CNN Valencia pointed the rifle at officers, refused several requests to drop the weapon, and threatened to kill himself before Officer Michael Rapiejko stepped on the gas and slammed into him from behind.

The impact sent Valencia flying into the air, landing him in the hospital in serious condition. He was released two days later and transferred to jail.

Detractors question why, for example, that many officers couldn't establish a perimeter or try to negotiate with with Valencia.

But Tucson police chief says he supports Rapiejko, characterizing the hit as the best option he had and suggesting that it might have saved Valencia's life.

"If we're going to choose between maybe we'll let him go a little bit farther and see what happens, or we're going to take him out now and eliminate any opportunity he has to hurt somebody, you're going to err on the side of, in favor of the innocent people," Police Chief Terry Rozema told CNN. "Without a doubt."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/14/us/arizona-police-run-over-suspect/

Not really sure how to feel about this one. The man clearly had some kind of mental issues and he had a loaded weapon pointing it at officers, but damn, running his ass down with the car seems pretty freaking extreme. What's everyone's thoughts on this?
 
Dash Cam Shows Cop Intentionally Run Over an Armed Suspect With His Car

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/14/us/arizona-police-run-over-suspect/

Not really sure how to feel about this one. The man clearly had some kind of mental issues and he had a loaded weapon pointing it at officers, but damn, running his ass down with the car seems pretty freaking extreme. What's everyone's thoughts on this?

Where do you see him pointing a gun at officers?! :huh: To me, this is more open and shut than the Mike Brown case. Brown is debatable but the officer just ran dude over in cold blood here.
 
I'm talking about what was reported, he had a loaded weapon and he was pointing it at officers during the standoff according to the article. We can't go off of the 5 seconds of him being run down since the whole standoff was a lot longer than that. But I still think running him over with a car was pretty damn extreme.
 
How come when a white officer shoots a suspect that happens to be black it is always targeted as a racist shooting?

In the case of the spring break gang rape, if it is true it was all black men raping a young white woman... isn't that a racial hate crime :confused:

http://www.news.com.au/world/north-...to-catch-rapists/story-fnh81jut-1227304409753

First of all I reported on that gang rape in the stupid thread because those guys are idiots but it is not an abuse of power. Racist crap happens to people of all colors on a daily basis, but you can scroll right on back through this thread is that the law enforcement has a systemic bias against African Americans that tends to get them killed. Not every police shooting is considered racist but if you look at the overall picture it's pretty clear that police in most areas treat black men differently than their white counterparts. That's not to say all or even most cops are racist but there have been plenty of studies done that show some of it is deeply ingrained into our culture. As soon as I find a story that involves an abuse of power I post it in here, doesn't matter if what the color of anyone involved is. The sad fact is that for some reason it seems young black men aren't given as much leeway as other ethnicities, I just reported on a white guy that was high on some drug called flakka and he attacked a cop after being tazed twice and tried to stab the cop with his own badge. That was just posted in the stupid thread a few hours ago, and yet we also have a cop who pulls over a guy for a supposed bad taillight and proceeds to damn near empty a clip in him as he jogs away because he had a warrant out for child support and then he tries to plant a tazer by him so he can get away with the murder. The only reason he was caught was because a citizen filmed it with his cell phone.

Also it annoys the f*** out of me when people try to pull this BS about cops killing black people by calling it racist and pointing to some story about what some dumbass wannabe thugs do to some white person. Showing racism that exist on the other end of the spectrum does not negate or justify racism on the other end of the spectrum

EDIT: And FYI a hate crime has to be done with motivation to target someone specifically because of their race, gender or sexual orientation. Those a**holes just raped her because she was drunk and they thought they could get away with it. Her skin color was of no difference to them
 
It would only be considered a racial hate crime if they had said they intended to do it to a certain group of people specifically. These guys are just ****ing ********.
 
First of all I reported on that gang rape in the stupid thread because those guys are idiots but it is not an abuse of power. Racist crap happens to people of all colors on a daily basis, but you can scroll right on back through this thread is that the law enforcement has a systemic bias against African Americans that tends to get them killed. Not every police shooting is considered racist but if you look at the overall picture it's pretty clear that police in most areas treat black men differently than their white counterparts. That's not to say all or even most cops are racist but there have been plenty of studies done that show some of it is deeply ingrained into our culture. As soon as I find a story that involves an abuse of power I post it in here, doesn't matter if what the color of anyone involved is. The sad fact is that for some reason it seems young black men aren't given as much leeway as other ethnicities, I just reported on a white guy that was high on some drug called flakka and he attacked a cop after being tazed twice and tried to stab the cop with his own badge. That was just posted in the stupid thread a few hours ago, and yet we also have a cop who pulls over a guy for a supposed bad taillight and proceeds to damn near empty a clip in him as he jogs away because he had a warrant out for child support and then he tries to plant a tazer by him so he can get away with the murder. The only reason he was caught was because a citizen filmed it with his cell phone.

Also it annoys the f*** out of me when people try to pull this BS about cops killing black people by calling it racist and pointing to some story about what some dumbass wannabe thugs do to some white person. Showing racism that exist on the other end of the spectrum does not negate or justify racism on the other end of the spectrum

EDIT: And FYI a hate crime has to be done with motivation to target someone specifically because of their race, gender or sexual orientation. Those a**holes just raped her because she was drunk and they thought they could get away with it. Her skin color was of no difference to them

Agreed! How anyone can pull the race card on that rape situation is beyond me. It is no comparison at all.
 
It would only be considered a racial hate crime if they had said they intended to do it to a certain group of people specifically. These guys are just ****ing ********.
That sums it up right there. Whether it's racially motivated or not hasn't been stated anywhere I'm aware of but I have not been following it either. Some of these stories you just see what was alleged and you don't want to get into the lurid details.
 
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