Guardians of the Galaxy Adam Warlock

[pr0xyt0xin]

Spoiler

After his synthezoid body is trashed

I think there's a real possibility of Vision merging his consciousness with the soul gem and becoming the MCU Adam Warlock.

I like this idea if *only* for the poetic story arc of Jarvis being in the first MCU movie and being the hero that defeats Thanos.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Sidenote: Paul Bettany and Elizabeth Debicki are both 6'3"

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Looks like Adam Warlock was set to be a major character in Vol. 2 but will now likely show up in Vol. 3.

http://www.slashfilm.com/adam-warlock-guardians-of-the-galaxy/

 

[Web-Head]

Who would everyone like to see play Adam Warlock?

 

[David H.]

How about...

 

[TheVileOne]

Looks like Adam Warlock was set to be a major character in Vol. 2 but will now likely show up in Vol. 3.

http://www.slashfilm.com/adam-warlock-guardians-of-the-galaxy/

Make Magus the villain. That'd be perfect for a third Guardians movie.

Keeping Adam Warlock out of this movie was a smart decision. That character deserves his own dedicated plot and story.

 

[Vartha]

Yeah but WHEN? There isn't time to place him anywhere between the films Marvel has planned between now and IW.
Unless the beginning of the IW is what wakes Adam up

 

[TheVileOne]

Well, it would be the third movie Vartha, which would probably be in the next phase around 2020 or so.

 

[DoubleO88]

Its ****ing stupid Adam wont be involved in Infinity War like what kind of logic is that? Somehow Mantis was more important? GTFO

 

[Inhuman117]

Its ****ing stupid Adam wont be involved in Infinity War like what kind of logic is that? Somehow Mantis was more important? GTFO

Read The GOTG Vol 2 Spoiler Thread than you know it

 

[SomeOldGuy]

I'm thrilled to hear that Gunn is planning GotG3 around Adam Warlock, and I hope we get the whole Church/Magus/Pip the Troll treatment, too! But even if not, great, great news. Another one of my favorite characters that I never thought I'd get a chance to see on screen.

 

[Lilbaz]

Its ****ing stupid Adam wont be involved in Infinity War like what kind of logic is that? Somehow Mantis was more important? GTFO

She was more important to gotg 2 and that is what gunn cared about.

 

[DoubleO88]

Ive seen the movie, Mantis doesn't really do anything that important that warrants her over Adam Warlock, she's kinda just comic relief. But after seeing the movie I'm glad Warlock wasn't in it, based on how they made Ayesha and the Soverien they would've made him into a buffoon.

 

[Mike Murdock]

They're not remotely interchangeable roles, though.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

How about...

 

[legendkillin]

Yeah but WHEN? There isn't time to place him anywhere between the films Marvel has planned between now and IW.
Unless the beginning of the IW is what wakes Adam up

That could be what wakes him but that would mean he was in the cocoon tomb for 2-3 years. I would think Ayesha needed him ready quickly to prove her worth to the committee.

 

[MbJ]

Its ****ing stupid Adam wont be involved in Infinity War like what kind of logic is that?

The logic that Marvel's movies are never 100 percent straight off the page adaptations?

How about...

Oooh. I like.

 

[Drizzle]

Who would everyone like to see play Adam Warlock?

I said it in another thread as well, but I think Dan Stevens would be perfect.

 

[jaqua99]

The logic that Marvel's movies are never 100 percent straight off the page adaptation?

This is a bit different. Thanos is a big character, a popular one. Unlike other big characters, Thanos doesn't have too much of a supporting cast. His children are in the films, sure.

But as far as foils, or significant characters he has a genuine relationship with, there are two, death, and Adam. Adam and Thanos have a character defining relationship. Perfect foils. It's a fantastic relationship to read about as a fan, and to many, that relationship is a big part of Thanos' character. Using that character IN the MCU without having any relationship with Thanos, as well as having no presence in a film based off a historic arc that heavily features their relationship is bound to fustrate some people
Thor got his Loki, Cap got his supporting characters, Thanos has one major relationship in Adam, who is also in the MCU. To passively write off fustration towards that is arrogant, in my opinion.

Nothing personal just passion for a character.

I would not be surprised if Adam has a role in part 2. Especially if the Guardians have any sort of rule in part 2

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I said it in another thread as well, but I think Dan Stevens would be perfect.

Yes

 

[MbJ]

This is a bit different.

I'm not saying he can't be upset. I'm saying the specific argument that there is no logic in making an Infinity War movie without Adam Warlock isn't necessarily true, because Marvel's movies are never straight off the page adaptations to begin with. Infinity War is already shaping up to be radically different than the Infinity Gauntlet storyline its based on by featuring many prominent characters who weren't in the original story or having some of those who were in small roles in the story take on much bigger parts here (such as Vision's greatly enhanced role).

So to argue you can't possibly do the movie without Warlock is shortsighted, since we don't know how closely the story is going to adhere to the original.

And on a more general level, saying you can't make a movie without Character X is usually hyperbolic to begin with. I remember way back when The Avengers was announced there was a vocal group of fans who were outraged about Black Widow and Hawkeye replacing Ant-Man and the Wasp, and asked the same questions: "How do you make an Avengers origin movie without two of the founding members?!" and "What sort of sense does it make to do an Avengers movie without Ant-Man and the Wasp?!" Shockingly, that ended up working out fine as well.

 

[jaqua99]

I'm not saying he can't be upset. I'm saying the specific argument that there is no logic in making an Infinity War movie without Adam Warlock isn't necessarily true, because Marvel's movies are never straight off the page adaptations to begin with. Infinity War is already shaping up to be radically different than the Infinity Gauntlet storyline its based on by featuring many prominent characters who weren't in the original story or having some of those who were in small roles in the story take on much bigger parts here (such as Vision's greatly enhanced role).

So to argue you can't possibly do the movie without Warlock is shortsighted, since we don't know how closely the story is going to adhere to the original.

And on a more general level, saying you can't make a movie without Character X is usually hyperbolic to begin with. I remember way back when The Avengers was announced there was a vocal group of fans who were outraged about Black Widow and Hawkeye replacing Ant-Man and the Wasp, and asked the same questions: "How do you make an Avengers origin movie without two of the founding members?!" and "What sort of sense does it make to do an Avengers movie without Ant-Man and the Wasp?!" Shockingly, that ended up working out fine as well.

My point isn't about logic, or how rational that stance is, Mbj. It's about personalization and interaction. Given the difference, I agree, logic points to not have Adam in it given the timeline of character introductions, and loose adaptions. Logically, I agree, personally, I hate it, and it sucks, but it is what it is..a simple movie.

My point is that people are personally invested in the character, and getting fustrated at the lack of Warlock and Thanos IS warrented..regardless of if making that relationship happen is illogical.

If voicing a "lack of logic" to describe the lack of Warlock is how one rationalizes their (very valid) feelings, who cares? No need to discredit his logic, because he wasn't using logic. That's how communication breakdowns and arguements happen on these boards. However he choses to express that is on him.

Appologies if it seems I'm coming at you..it's just a plea to let people be, there's just a lot of tension these boards. We are all people, at the end of the day

 

[Tony Stark]

It's clear that Vision is fulfilling Adam Warlock's role in Infinity War, only with the mind gem not the soul gem. I am still hopeful that Adam will inherit the soul gem after the events of Infinity War, but he's not going to be involved and that's OK.

What the did with Vision is similar to what they did with Ego. Ego is somewhat of an amalgamation of Ego and J'Son from the comics, in addition to making him a Celestial. They just needed something that would explain why Peter would be able to wield the infinity stone.

The ultimate goal of any of these films is to make a good film. Introducing new characters, especially as wide scale as Infinity War will be, could possibly hurt the story telling. We know who Vision is, and we know why he has the gem, that's one issue out of the way so they can deal with other plot points in the film.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I happen to agree. While Vision may fill the role Adam does, its not like he has all of Adam's characteristics. We will still see an intimidating Adam Warlock in the MCU, just in a different role. Similarly to Pym and Stark in reference to the Ultron mythos. Some may consider this too a mistake, but it certainly made for smoother storytelling. I still kinda wish they'd have given Pym a nod though at the very least.

 

[MbJ]

It's clear that Vision is fulfilling Adam Warlock's role in Infinity War, only with the mind gem not the soul gem. I am still hopeful that Adam will inherit the soul gem after the events of Infinity War, but he's not going to be involved and that's OK.

What the did with Vision is similar to what they did with Ego. Ego is somewhat of an amalgamation of Ego and J'Son from the comics, in addition to making him a Celestial. They just needed something that would explain why Peter would be able to wield the infinity stone.

The ultimate goal of any of these films is to make a good film. Introducing new characters, especially as wide scale as Infinity War will be, could possibly hurt the story telling. We know who Vision is, and we know why he has the gem, that's one issue out of the way so they can deal with other plot points in the film.

Exactly this.