Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!! - Part 1

[MakeMinesMarvel]

The ending was so close at having 'Cap's Kooky Quartet' as the new Avengers. How sad.

I love the diversity in the new line-up. Minorities Multiple Women and Androids

 

[warriorking]

Does Thor tangle with QS at any time during the movie?..

 

[Minxie]

Does Thor tangle with QS at any time during the movie?..

Not sure if it happens in the movie (but it probably does) but there's a scene in the novel where QS tries to grab Mjolnir mid-air while he's super-speeding. It doesn't end well lol.

 

[PyroChamber]

Too bad DarkPhoenix is gone, I wanted to ask how Quicksilver's effects looked.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Not sure if it happens in the movie (but it probably does) but there's a scene in the novel where QS tries to grab Mjolnir mid-air while he's super-speeding. It doesn't end well lol.

I hope we see that in the film.

 

[Tymminator]

I'm absolutely sure if and when they want to bring QS back, they will (my money is on A:IW2, probably when they bring back Cap...total guesses) but the fact is this...

If A:AoU had no heroes die, then you have those complaining that it's a "kiddie movie with no real stakes". When someone dies, you get some of the stuff from this thread.

Myself, I can't wait to see this movie and see things in context and develop my own opinion.

To DarkPhoenix and the other person who saw the movie, thanks for fielding the questions as long as you did and being good sports of it all.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Marvel & FOX most likely had a handshake agreement to split the Twins.

 

[Ninjablade]

Thanks to those who gave out spoilers. I appreciate you taking the time.

 

[claire2281]

I'm absolutely sure if and when they want to bring QS back, they will (my money is on A:IW2, probably when they bring back Cap...total guesses)

Still not sure what they're doing with Cap but I wouldn't be surprised to see him in both parts - he did an interview at the end of last year where he said he still had four more films to go including AoU. It may simply be that they're getting around that tricky 6 film contract stuff because they're shooting IW as one film but splitting it in half. Otherwise they'd be missing IM, Cap and Thor from one of the two films!

It's also not confirmed if Evans is leaving because he's mentioned before the idea of maybe keeping the Marvel stuff as his onscreen work and then directing the rest of the time. I think it's all up in the air still (hence why Stan has a nine movie contract because they really have no idea how many they'll need him for) but they'll try to hold on to their big stars for as long as they possibly can. That and I really don't see how they can do Bucky's arc justice in CW with so many other characters and plot lines in it now - it feels like that's going to need a whole other film in its own right!


Back to AoU:

Basically the only thing I find disappointing about the film at the mo is what they've done with Banner. They seem to be mostly retreading his story from last time (doesn't want to be the Hulk, can't control it) and then making him look pretty selfish by deciding he wants to abandon his friends just before a major battle (taking one of their best fighters with him) and then leaving them half way through. That's a pretty crappy thing to do tbh.

 

[legendx66]

Still not sure what they're doing with Cap but I wouldn't be surprised to see him in both parts - he did an interview at the end of last year where he said he still had four more films to go including AoU. It may simply be that they're getting around that tricky 6 film contract stuff because they're shooting IW as one film but splitting it in half. Otherwise they'd be missing IM, Cap and Thor from one of the two films!

It's also not confirmed if Evans is leaving because he's mentioned before the idea of maybe keeping the Marvel stuff as his onscreen work and then directing the rest of the time. I think it's all up in the air still (hence why Stan has a nine movie contract because they really have no idea how many they'll need him for) but they'll try to hold on to their big stars for as long as they possibly can. That and I really don't see how they can do Bucky's arc justice in CW with so many other characters and plot lines in it now - it feels like that's going to need a whole other film in its own right!


Back to AoU:

Basically the only thing I find disappointing about the film at the mo is what they've done with Banner. They seem to be mostly retreading his story from last time (doesn't want to be the Hulk, can't control it) and then making him look pretty selfish by deciding he wants to abandon his friends just before a major battle (taking one of their best fighters with him) and then leaving them half way through. That's a pretty crappy thing to do tbh.

Just for general info IW absolutely counts as two separate films for contract purposes. They don't have a choice but to do that. However hemsworth and Evans apparently said in a recent interview that they both have three films now after AOU in their contract and specifically mentioned both infinity wars

 

[Barchiel]

I love the diversity in the new line-up. Minorities Multiple Women and Androids

The term "minority" always sounded like an insult to me, as in 'being minor/less/unimportant'. Comicbook movies will rarely have much of a..."mix", as you'd say, because there aren't that many other browner characters. How many latino or asian people are in there?

Anyway, I wish that QS was at least around to make the classic squad.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Marvel & FOX most likely had a handshake agreement to split the Twins.

No.

 

[Barchiel]

Marvel & FOX most likely had a handshake agreement to split the Twins.

Actually, they both had rights to them. Marvel Studios just can't mention 'mutants' and had to change their backstory. That's why Marvel Studios is trying to trump-up the idea of Inhumans, so if they even need something "mutant-like", they could use that as an answer if they wanted.

 

[jaqua99]

Still not sure what they're doing with Cap but I wouldn't be surprised to see him in both parts - he did an interview at the end of last year where he said he still had four more films to go including AoU. It may simply be that they're getting around that tricky 6 film contract stuff because they're shooting IW as one film but splitting it in half. Otherwise they'd be missing IM, Cap and Thor from one of the two films!

It's also not confirmed if Evans is leaving because he's mentioned before the idea of maybe keeping the Marvel stuff as his onscreen work and then directing the rest of the time. I think it's all up in the air still (hence why Stan has a nine movie contract because they really have no idea how many they'll need him for) but they'll try to hold on to their big stars for as long as they possibly can. That and I really don't see how they can do Bucky's arc justice in CW with so many other characters and plot lines in it now - it feels like that's going to need a whole other film in its own right!


Back to AoU:

Basically the only thing I find disappointing about the film at the mo is what they've done with Banner. They seem to be mostly retreading his story from last time (doesn't want to be the Hulk, can't control it) and then making him look pretty selfish by deciding he wants to abandon his friends just before a major battle (taking one of their best fighters with him) and then leaving them half way through. That's a pretty crappy thing to do tbh.

It's not like the writers didn't consider this. It's probably part of his arc. He doesn't have solo movies so his arc is fleshed out when he does appear. Avengers 1 he came to "terms" with Hulk, but still had deep issues. Ultron brings those out, and Banner relapses, BAD this time, to the point where the Hulk even feels it?

Sounds like an arc to me, it just takes place in the individual psyche that contains banner and Hulk

 

[Barchiel]

Not sure if it happens in the movie (but it probably does) but there's a scene in the novel where QS tries to grab Mjolnir mid-air while he's super-speeding. It doesn't end well lol.

It does. On the trailer when QS hits Cap, it happens before that.

 

[Barchiel]

Too bad DarkPhoenix is gone, I wanted to ask how Quicksilver's effects looked.

Exactly like they looked on the trailers, the light-blue stream of after-image glow. Enjoy it while you can, you won't see any speedsters again in the MCU...

 

[claire2281]

Just for general info IW absolutely counts as two separate films for contract purposes. They don't have a choice but to do that. However hemsworth and Evans apparently said in a recent interview that they both have three films now after AOU in their contract and specifically mentioned both infinity wars

Makes senses. Definitely ties it with what Evans said in December about having four films still to come out. I would assume that they negotiated contract extensions before even announcing IW was two films because you don't really want to do something like that and have your 3 biggest stars missing half of it!

They may kill Cap at the end of CW, may leave him in a coma or something or may not have that part in at all. I suppose with the Russo's doing this and IW it makes it easier for them because they know how they're going to bring him back and can carry the plotlines through

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

The term "minority" always sounded like an insult to me, as in 'being minor/less/unimportant'.

Well in the United States we're part of the minority it is what it is

 

[Barchiel]

Makes senses. Definitely ties it with what Evans said in December about having four films still to come out. I would assume that they negotiated contract extensions before even announcing IW was two films because you don't really want to do something like that and have your 3 biggest stars missing half of it!

They may kill Cap at the end of CW, may leave him in a coma or something or may not have that part in at all. I suppose with the Russo's doing this and IW it makes it easier for them because they know how they're going to bring him back and can carry the plotlines through

I hope not. This will be the THIRD TIME Cap "died", each in his own movies. Saved because he was frozen in part 1, saved because Bucky pulled him out of the water on part 2, and being in a convenient coma on part 3?

 

[claire2281]

It's not like the writers didn't consider this. It's probably part of his arc. He doesn't have solo movies so his arc is fleshed out when he does appear. Avengers 1 he came to "terms" with Hulk, but still had deep issues. Ultron brings those out, and Banner relapses, BAD this time, to the point where the Hulk even feels it?

Sounds like an arc to me, it just takes place in the individual psyche that contains banner and Hulk

I just think it sounds a bit repetitive considering he came to terms with it last time and Tony's belief in him was absolute. It's treading a lot of familiar ground and it's a pity to do that when he has such little screen time as it is. I would've liked to have seen them done more with him and I'm not keen on the idea that he would just leave them to fight this battle.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs that he goes to abandon his friends before this battle even starts (and wants Nat to go too) and disappears off half way through anyway.

 

[Barchiel]

Well in the United States we're part of the minority it is what it is

It's never is what it is. Heck, Italians, Irish, and Jewish people were considered "non-white" years ago. Hispanics will be considered "white or white/hispanic" soon since their numbers will dominate. Rules change when you want to keep rule lol. But back to the topic

 

[claire2281]

I hope not. This will be the THIRD TIME Cap "died", each in his own movies. Saved because he was frozen in part 1, saved because Bucky pulled him out of the water on part 2, and being in a convenient coma on part 3?

Whilst I wouldn't count 2, it'd suit me if they didn't bother rather than having to come up with some convoluted way of bringing him back. Basically, if it serves the overall plot then great but don't do it just because it happens in the comic and then have to tie themselves in knots to dig themselves out of a hole.

 

[Barchiel]

I just think it sounds a bit repetitive considering he came to terms with it last time and Tony's belief in him was absolute. It's treading a lot of familiar ground and it's a pity to do that when he has such little screen time as it is. I would've liked to have seen them done more with him and I'm not keen on the idea that he would just leave them to fight this battle.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs that he goes to abandon his friends before this battle even starts (and wants Nat to go too) and disappears off half way through anyway.

My biggest problem with it is that it means there's no chance of making She-Hulk until he shows back up!

 

[Barchiel]

Whilst I wouldn't count 2, it'd suit me if they didn't bother rather than having to come up with some convoluted way of bringing him back. Basically, if it serves the overall plot then great but don't do it just because it happens in the comic and then have to tie themselves in knots to dig themselves out of a hole.

I just don't understand why he'd just wake up when it's time to battle Thanos.

I think they should set up the scene for Crossbones to take him out and have Spider-man swoop in to stop him and save the day. Sounds funny, but it'd give Spider-man a good entrance into the MCU.

 

[MbJ]

I love the diversity in the new line-up. Minorities Multiple Women and Androids

Yeah it took them two movies but it's a nicer mix at least.