Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!! - Part 3

[haephestus]

Hawkeye is no longer an Avenger at the end of the film?

It doesn't look like it. Before leaving for the final confrontation with Ultron, Hawkeye basically promises his wife/partner that it will be his last mission and that (if he survives) he'll return to the farm and stay on the farm with her and their (soon to be) three children.

They seem to have written themselves in a little bit of a corner because if Hawkeye ever does return, the stakes would need to be really high in order to justify him leaving his family.

 

[Iceman]

I expect the Civil War of the title to just represent the rift between Tony and Steve, largely egged on by a third party (Daniel Bruhl's character?).

Oh yeah I guess that makes more sense.

 

[Iceman]

I'm not 100% it is the same thing, but there were maybe two scenes where Vision made his hands/arms intangible, placed them inside an Ultron drone and then made them tangible again to rip the Ultron drone apart. Or something like that.

They were quick scenes, but I think it was their way to demonstrate that Vision could become intangible.

The phasing/intangibility is one aspect of it but we should see something at some point that demonstrates him using his ability to become super-dense.

It doesn't look like it. Before leaving for the final confrontation with Ultron, Hawkeye basically promises his wife/partner that it will be his last mission and that (if he survives) he'll return to the farm and stay on the farm with her and their (soon to be) three children.

They seem to have written themselves in a little bit of a corner because if Hawkeye ever does return, the stakes would need to be really high in order to justify him leaving his family.

Sounds like writing themselves into a corner unnecessarily. Why do that? The family were cool as they were without the additional complication.

 

[haephestus]

Am I the only person who thought Ultron was far more intimidating and creepy when he was in bodies where his mouth couldn't move?

The robot lips did throw me a little, particularly in close-up. Much like in Transformers, they seemed incongruous with the robotic body. But, it kind of worked with with Ultron's more ... "human" personality.

 

[haephestus]

The phasing/intangibility is one aspect of it but we should see something at some point that demonstrates him using his ability to become super-dense.

I don't recall any scene showing Vision to be extremely dense/heavy.

But, the action scenes seemed to be pretty evenly split between showcasing the individual Avengers and showing them working together as a team, so it's possible that Vision manipulated his density overtly in the "team" scenes and I missed it because my attention was on another character/area of the screen.

 

[IgBeav]

imax isn't an option for me here

english mit? anyways, my only 2 options are reald digital 3d.

The "Mit" was autocorrect's idea of how to spell "it."

 

[IgBeav]

Btw someone said Ultron last form was not made of vibranium. And that Vision was also made of it.

I totally desagree.

Imo Vision is made of something else other than vibranium. The metal can't phase through stuff like Vision does. And his density thing wouldn't really be understandble if he was made of vibranium.

Ultron just takes the metal to build his device because is the strongest thing there is not to build the body he wanted for himself.

After loosing the body that originates Vision he then takes the strongest thing he has on hand to make himself as strong as possible and that is the vibranium his minions are using to build that device thus becaming "beefed up".

What else could have withstand a infinity stone beam, 2 IM repulsors and Thor's lightning at the same time without being completly obliterated!?

Well at least that's my take on it.

Vision was. He clearly made out of Vibranium - Cho made a point about how amazing it was that it could be woven into the cradle's flesh material, and how many more uses for it there might be.

Ultron's Vibranium body was destroyed by a combination of the triple blast he revived from Iron man, tThor and Vision, getting smashed out of the jet by Hulk and falling thousands of feet into a rail car, and finally having his core yanked by Witch. His final form was a smashed drone (leaving the same way he was introduced), which is confronted by Vision for a farewell chat, and then destroyed. So, his final form was not Vibranium.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It doesn't look like it. Before leaving for the final confrontation with Ultron, Hawkeye basically promises his wife/partner that it will be his last mission and that (if he survives) he'll return to the farm and stay on the farm with her and their (soon to be) three children.

They seem to have written themselves in a little bit of a corner because if Hawkeye ever does return, the stakes would need to be really high in order to justify him leaving his family.

 

[Sian]

It doesn't look like it. Before leaving for the final confrontation with Ultron, Hawkeye basically promises his wife/partner that it will be his last mission and that (if he survives) he'll return to the farm and stay on the farm with her and their (soon to be) three children.

They seem to have written themselves in a little bit of a corner because if Hawkeye ever does return, the stakes would need to be really high in order to justify him leaving his family.

How about Thanos killing them off?

 

[Wylie Times]

At a guess:

War Machine
Hawkeye (be a nice side story to see him and Widow on opposite sides)
SHIELD
Vision
Iron Legion


Frankly, Tony can mass produce an iron legion that would dominate, which would be great because as Cap's story he's always facing odds that he has no right to win against but somehow does.

Odds are Black Panther is going to end up siding with Cap in the end. Black Panther pretty much tips the scales since he's basically a combination of Cap and Tony with more resources than SHIELD.

 

[misjuevos]

I liked the wakanda mention. I like how it seems like a dangerous place to venture. I also enjoyed the power up of a few characters. Thor and cap seemed very powerful. The vision was just awesome. I loved his flying, seemed very fluid. Like he was underwater or something. I think it has to do with the fact that the vision flies different than Thor or iron man. So it looks cooler, and yes I know Thor doesn't technically fly. Thor just throws mjolnir so hard he simulates flight. I just like the vision's flight better, he flies like he is in space or something, like there is no up or down. I can't wait to see more of the vision.

 

[BigThor]

I like the way Thor flies, I just wish he flew more.

 

[Wylie Times]

Hawkeye is no longer an Avenger at the end of the film?

Also, isn't the new team more powerful then the old team? Doesn't look like a downgrade to me.

I kind of figured that a lot of people would assume the new team is weaker than original but they're about the same in terms of sheer power.

What the team is missing are genius level characters, but that role is likely to be filled by Black Panther. Plus they brought in Selvig and Cho.

 

[misjuevos]

I like the way Thor flies, I just wish he flew more.

I am still waiting for Thor to fly in space.

 

[Wylie Times]

I liked the wakanda mention. I like how it seems like a dangerous place to venture.

I like this too.

Clearly a few high ranking people know of Wakandas existence but notice that Ultron wasn't willing to go there to get Vibranium. Also Stark seemed shocked that Klaue was able to make it out of Wakanda with any Vibranium.


Did anybody else catch the hint that Stark might have lied about his dealings with Klaue? Stark said he just knew Klaue from a convention or something, but when speaking to Ultron Klaue made it seem as he knew Stark pretty well.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Klaue might actually be something of a badass to escape the Wakandians like that, even if he was possibly tortured.

 

[BigThor]

I am still waiting for Thor to fly in space.

Infinity Wars my friend, Infinity Wars

Although he may fly in space in Ragnarok as well.

 

[yllum]

Guys..need some help here. .so ultron wanted to rid the world of humans and the populate the earth with many "humanoid-vision" right?

And vision is a good person/robot
Because jarvis is installed into it right?

I really don't get the vision character in the movie..I watch it twice already, in what way is he worthy? To lift the hammer? He is basically a newborn..its like a baby..babies are pure and good nature I suppose..and that means all babies are worthy? And can lift the hammer? Vision basically lift the hammer like 10mins after birth? What has he done to deserve the worthiness? Someone like Cap is more worthy.

can anyone enlighten me pls

 

[TheJediBrah]

Actually for all we know Infinity War part 1 might focus on the new team

I'm telling you it won't

 

[Bren]

Guys..need some help here. .so ultron wanted to rid the world of humans and the populate the earth with many "humanoid-vision" right?

And vision is a good person/robot
Because jarvis is installed into it right?

I really don't get the vision character in the movie..I watch it twice already, in what way is he worthy? To lift the hammer? He is basically a newborn..its like a baby..babies are pure and good nature I suppose..and that means all babies are worthy? And can lift the hammer? Vision basically lift the hammer like 10mins after birth? What has he done to deserve the worthiness? Someone like Cap is more worthy.

can anyone enlighten me pls

Think of Vision as.... A newborn elevator

 

[TheJediBrah]

Sounds like writing themselves into a corner unnecessarily. Why do that? The family were cool as they were without the additional complication.

It's called making a good movie that people care about. That whole theme with Hawkeye's family made the audience feel a lot more scared for Hawkeye during the final battle and made the moment leading up to and including when quicksilver sacrifices himself for Hawkeye and the kid 100x more meaningful.

 

[Wylie Times]

I'm telling you it won't

Oh, so you've seen the final script for a movie that isn't set to come out till 3 yrs from now?

All we can do at this point is speculate about what might happen and who might appear during Infinity War. Nobody knows anything for sure.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Oh, so you've seen the final script for a movie that isn't set to come out till 3 yrs from now?

Nope. And I don't need to.

All we can do at this point is speculate about what might happen and who might appear during Infinity War. Nobody knows anything for sure.

But it's obvious to any semi-intelligent person that some things will and/or won't happen.

If I said that a mutant banana isn't going to eat thanos and poop him out as a custard tart to finish the movie, it would be a safe bet. Even though I haven't seen the script.

 

[Protar]

I'm telling you it won't

All the rumours and sources I have seen have said that it will. Fiege has commented at least a few times on the rotating roster. The thing is, by the time Infinity War finishes most of the original cast will have used up their contracts. Plus by that point each main Avenger (Thor, Cap and Iron Man) will have had three films. So Marvel is trying to build a second team over the course of phase 3 which people will have just as much investment in to replace the old characters/actors. And IW part 1 will be their debut.

Phase 3 will see the original Avengers dead, retired or incapacitated leaving the new team to fight Thanos in part 1. Then in Part 2 the original team (plus Captain Marvel) reunites to save the day. It seems like the new team will consist of Scarlet Witch, Vision, War Machine, Falcon, Spiderman, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Ant-Man and The Winter Soldier.

I mean seriously, did you think they'd make a brand new team and then not show them off?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They didn't sign everyone back on for two more Avengers films to sideline them for one of them. The stars of Infinity War will be the original Avengers, Thanos and the GotG. Plus SW, Strange, etc.