Age of Ultron Age of Ultron SPOILER thread, DO NOT enter if you don't want to be spoiled!!! - Part 4

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I really hope to have a Vision/SW romance in the future. It would be a missed opportunity not to. They're one of the best couples in Marvel!
 
I just kind of realized how sadder the ending is. It's directed in more of an upbeat way, but if you think about it, the team from the first doesn't stay intact. Tony went off to do his own thing (perhaps more guilt ridden than he's letting on) Thor went off world, Barton has a family he needs to take care of, and Banner is God knows where. Cap and Widow are really the only original members left by the end of the film.
 
I just kind of realized how sadder the ending is. It's directed in more of an upbeat way, but if you think about it, the team from the first doesn't stay intact. Tony went off to do his own thing (perhaps more guilt ridden than he's letting on) Thor went off world, Barton has a family he needs to take care of, and Banner is God knows where. Cap and Widow are really the only original members left by the end of the film.

yeah it's very bittersweet. All the deaths, the split, etc.

I hate when movies try to play bittersweet movies off as happy.
 
I just kind of realized how sadder the ending is. It's directed in more of an upbeat way, but if you think about it, the team from the first doesn't stay intact. Tony went off to do his own thing (perhaps more guilt ridden than he's letting on) Thor went off world, Barton has a family he needs to take care of, and Banner is God knows where. Cap and Widow are really the only original members left by the end of the film.

It's that Empire Strikes Back ending, Whedon style. Like you said, it has a lighter feel to it in how it's presented, but not only is the team not together, but a new team is being built in its place. Definitely not the hopeful ending of the first film, where even though everyone went their separate ways, we saw Stark planning Avengers Tower specifically for that original team.
 
Another interesting thing about Ultron is that he seemed to genuinely care about the Twins, or at least empathize with them. You could particularly see it on the train when he was almost pleading with Wanda not to turn against him, when they're telling him about what happened to them/their parents, and then again at the end when he tells her that if she stays, she'll die. I found that to be kind of cool as well.
 
My guess with the new team is they plan on having Black Panther, Captain Marvel and/or Dr. Strange join up.

It's been noted a lot that the team is less powerful and has no science experts, so I feel like they intentionally set it up to have a reason for T'Challa and Carol to join later on.
 
Another interesting thing about Ultron is that he seemed to genuinely care about the Twins, or at least empathize with them. You could particularly see it on the train when he was almost pleading with Wanda not to turn against him, when they're telling him about what happened to them/their parents, and then again at the end when he tells her that if she stays, she'll die. I found that to be kind of cool as well.

I loved that as well. When he says to Wanda "please, don't do this". The feels.
 
I really hope to have a Vision/SW romance in the future. It would be a missed opportunity not to. They're one of the best couples in Marvel!

It was teased in AoU. We will be 100% getting a SW Vision relationship in the future.
 
My guess with the new team is they plan on having Black Panther, Captain Marvel and/or Dr. Strange join up.

It's been noted a lot that the team is less powerful and has no science experts, so I feel like they intentionally set it up to have a reason for T'Challa and Carol to join later on.
Speaking of science experts, let's not forget Hank Pym! He could be a consultant or become Giant-Man down the road.
 
My guess with the new team is they plan on having Black Panther, Captain Marvel and/or Dr. Strange join up.

It's been noted a lot that the team is less powerful and has no science experts, so I feel like they intentionally set it up to have a reason for T'Challa and Carol to join later on.
Sounds good. You think Ant Man might join too?
 
Now the big question

What credit scene will pop up at the end of Ant Man?
 
The new team is also more emotionally/mentally stable:

-Cap is Cap.
-BW has a guilt-complex, but she's not actually mentally unstable.
-War Machine seems pretty well-adjusted.
-Ditto on Falcon.
-Vision seems zen/philosophical about everything.
-Scarlet Witch is probably the most "troubled" one. But even she doesn't seem nearly as unstable as her comic book counterpart, and she's got vision there to help with that ;)

Which of these characters are confirmed for Civil War? All of them? I know Scarlet Witch is.

If so, we got these Avengers, the Avengers, along with Zemo, Black Panther, Spiderman, and what ever other super powered characters are there to even it up.

Civil War is strait up going to be an Avengers movie. Like a street level political Avengers movie.
 
Now the big question

What credit scene will pop up at the end of Ant Man?

Perhaps a scene setting up Civil War. Or maybe Ant Man busts shrinks the entire film and the end credit scene is him actually growing in size.
 
It shouldn't be called Captain America it should be just called Civil War
 
Paul Rudd hasn't been confirmed for Civil war has he? Maybe he makes a small cameo.
 
It shouldn't be called Captain America it should be just called Civil War

Not if he's going to be the main protagonist in the movie, and everything is being set up for his point of view. The audience seems to be groomed to think Ironman is the favorite and whatnot, and it would be a lie if they just see Civil War and come in thinking he's going to be the hero. Better off to keep the Captain America apart of it.
 
Am I the only one that thinks there's no sense whatsoever in discussing the New Avengers?

I mean. They're not gonna show up on ant-man, and they're gonna split up in Cap 3. (War Machine will fight for Stark, Vision with the JARVIS matrix... etc)
 
Am I the only one that thinks there's no sense whatsoever in discussing the New Avengers?

I mean. They're not gonna show up on ant-man, and they're gonna split up in Cap 3. (War Machine will fight for Stark, Vision with the JARVIS matrix... etc)

Yes you're the only one.
 
It's that Empire Strikes Back ending, Whedon style. Like you said, it has a lighter feel to it in how it's presented, but not only is the team not together, but a new team is being built in its place. Definitely not the hopeful ending of the first film, where even though everyone went their separate ways, we saw Stark planning Avengers Tower specifically for that original team.

I wouldnt compare it to ESB. I know Whedon did but that's silly to me.

So many film makers always compare the second installment to ESB and it just ends up not being the case

It was teased in AoU. We will be 100% getting a SW Vision relationship in the future.

Do not think that is a guarantee
 
Another interesting thing about Ultron is that he seemed to genuinely care about the Twins, or at least empathize with them. You could particularly see it on the train when he was almost pleading with Wanda not to turn against him, when they're telling him about what happened to them/their parents, and then again at the end when he tells her that if she stays, she'll die. I found that to be kind of cool as well.

That's one part of this movie that I really loved, Ultron with the twins, and in particular Wanda. That he actually cared about them. That was developed really well.
 
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