Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - 3x09 - "Closure" - Discussion Thread

I think two inhuman characters on a team of only six (the original team), plus Andrew, would make it look as if the percentage of inhumans among the general population is considerably high. It's already a bit too crowded.

Bear in mind that SHIELD and HYDRA are selectively recruiting (they're a biased sample) - so having a few inHumans doesn't mean the number in the population is high.

I just hope Ward is not an inhuman
I want more Ginja Ninja ( I think she's currently filming Wonder Woman)
and I want Lincoln to show his powers more like Static -
 
Bear in mind that SHIELD and HYDRA are selectively recruiting (they're a biased sample) - so having a few inHumans doesn't mean the number in the population is high.

I just hope Ward is not an inhuman
I want more Ginja Ninja ( I think she's currently filming Wonder Woman)
and I want Lincoln to show his powers more like Static -
Skye was picked because she was an excellent hacker with the ability to even hack SHIELD, and also capable of adding a fresh perspective to the team. Andrew appears to have been picked because he was a competent psychologist who wanted the job, could handle the pressure, etc. None of that is related to their inhuman powers or - in the case of Andrew - character.

My point is that while SHIELD and Hydra are recruiting selectively, they're not doing so by means that one would expect would be biased towards inhumans without powers, as far as I can tell.

In fact, inhumans without powers seem to be (at least as far as we know) just part of the general population, without any particular psychological or physical traits.

While one can't extrapolate the percentage on a team to the percentage of the general population of course (else, the percentage would be extremely high), it seems to me it's good evidence that the percentage is still what I'd call considerably high (though that's also a relative matter; still, my point is that it suggests there are plenty of inhumans)
 
I think two inhuman characters on a team of only six (the original team), plus Andrew, would make it look as if the percentage of inhumans among the general population is considerably high. It's already a bit too crowded.

I concur. How many Inhumans should there be among the general population? 5,000? 100,000? 1 million? If 1 in 10 were Inhuman then that would equal 30 million Inhumans just in the United States. Think about that. If Ward, Daisy, and Andrew were all Inhuman...crowded only begins to describe the world.
 
I concur. How many Inhumans should there be among the general population? 5,000? 100,000? 1 million? If 1 in 10 were Inhuman then that would equal 30 million Inhumans just in the United States. Think about that. If Ward, Daisy, and Andrew were all Inhuman...crowded only begins to describe the world.

americans aren't great fish eaters apparently so will have a knock down effect on the numbers who manifest

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/11/how-to-get-americans-to-eat-fish/265150/

but take your point it would have to be something like 1 in a 10,000 or 1 in 100,000.
 
They don't have to be directly fish eaters (leaving aside fish oil users). Assuming just swimming in the ocean doesn't cut it, eating anything that's been fed fish would count. Likewise, does the Terrigen evaporate with the water? Then anything cereals it rains on would likely count.
 
They don't have to be directly fish eaters (leaving aside fish oil users). Assuming just swimming in the ocean doesn't cut it, eating anything that's been fed fish would count. Likewise, does the Terrigen evaporate with the water? Then anything cereals it rains on would likely count.

over a million agrophobes in america and almost 8 million vegetarians. The perfect life choice storm for an inhuman not to manifest.

maybe it dilutes eventually. in a planet of 6 billion people what would be a good numbers of inhumans to have to create fear and excitement but not enough to create a world wide social revolution.
 
Most people aren't Inhumans. If they're exposed to Terrigen, they won't transform. It isn't simply a question of how many people consume it or if dilutes.

I'm guessing Agrophobe is supposed to be the opposite of a vegetarian? Terrigen released into water, water rains on plants, cows eat the plants, delicious, delicious steak turns you into an Inhuman.
 
Most people aren't Inhumans. If they're exposed to Terrigen, they won't transform. It isn't simply a question of how many people consume it or if dilutes.

I'm guessing Agrophobe is supposed to be the opposite of a vegetarian? Terrigen released into water, water rains on plants, cows eat the plants, delicious, delicious steak turns you into an Inhuman.

someone afraid to go out side as i understand it but iam doubting that meaning if the point wasn't got, little probability of being rained on.

there was a previous discussion about the amount of inhumans in the general population, apologies i taught you where picking up on that.

The computer generated scenario where they showed the contamination spreading only referred to marine life. maybe the water cycle, ocean, vapour clouds, rain might be a bit much. Fish gets used for animal fodder, its fed to farm animals so still possible to get into the food chain so your point would still stand that way but a vegan with the inhuman gene might not manifest.
 
Bear in mind that SHIELD and HYDRA are selectively recruiting (they're a biased sample) - so having a few inHumans doesn't mean the number in the population is high.

But to be fair, after further consideration, maybe even inhumans without powers have some trait that we don't know about much more frequently than the general population - e.g., a psychological predisposition to be in law enforcement, or to be members of secret organizations, etc. -, which would explain the high numbers, so you make a fair point. It's still the case that 3 inhumans in a small group of characters is evidence of a higher percentage in the general population than if, say, there were no inhumans among known SHIELD or HYDRA agents, but it's weak evidence.

On the other hand, that raises another issue: how many agents of SHIELD and HYDRA are inhumans, and how is SHIELD dealing with it?
I mean, I would expect that HYDRA - just as the ATCU is doing, sponsored by HYDRA- would offer terrigen-laced fish oil to all of its agents - at least the part of HYDRA that knows about it, which includes Malick's HYDRA, and now probably also Ward's.
That would allow them to increase their numbers of powered agents.
Yet, Coulson seems bent on finding a cure, calling it an "infection", and not trying to expose anyone to the mist.

The result?
One would expect that HYDRA would get a much bigger and more powerful team of inhumans than SHIELD.
Granted, the sample is still small, so it's not very strong evidence. But it's something.
 
Yet, Coulson seems bent on finding a cure, calling it an "infection", and not trying to expose anyone to the mist. .

What Coulson says, or even does in public may not be what he is thinking or doing in the background!
Then even deeper in the background can be Nick Fury. He can walk in anytime with a game changer. :woot:
 
What Coulson says, or even does in public may not be what he is thinking or doing in the background!
Then even deeper in the background can be Nick Fury. He can walk in anytime with a game changer. :woot:
True, but do you think that SHIELD is also trying to make an army of inhumans (apart from Daisy's proto-team, which isn't an army)?
 
I don't think so, seeing as their intent is to just ensure that Inhumans are kept safe from other parties. There might be other SHIELD divisions we haven't seen (assuming that Coulson's unit isn't the only one now).
 
I don't think so, seeing as their intent is to just ensure that Inhumans are kept safe from other parties. There might be other SHIELD divisions we haven't seen (assuming that Coulson's unit isn't the only one now).
That might be a problem: if HYDRA manages to make many inhuman agents, SHIELD will be at a serious disadvantage.
 
Heh, it might be. Brett has strongly hinted that he's not an original character though. He is very much aware of all the speculation. In his latest interview with IGN Hellfire, Taskmaster and Punisher were named as characters he'd often heard. He even said that if they revealed he was someone from the comics he might finally get his appearance in the SHIELD comic and his action figure, and implied that the reason this hasn't happened yet is because his character is not yet revealed.

He's not Punisher that is for certain.
 
dangit, the live feed isn't working again



 
Still a few minutes Vartha, hopefully it will work for you.
 
At least he is getting his burger. Kinda surprised how cozy they are though.
 
Didn't see that coming. Rat bastard.
 
Man what an opening! Coulson is still a bad-ass.
 
He is pissed.
 
Well, that was heartbreaking
 

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