Here I am, Friday night, thinking about the important issues: AOS.
Remember last season after Gordon rescued Daisy and she woke up (half) "naked" on a table with all those acupuncture needles in her?
Eastern medicine.
When Daisy and Cal went to his old Doctors office and she notice they had the same hula girl figurine?
He explained it away as some kind of "genetic memory".
Now we are given the premise that being injected with alien blood derived serum gives the host the inherent qualities of that species, effectively altering their DNA.
I'm sure I can dig up other examples but my point is: in this MCU, possibly in preparation for Doctor Strange's magic realm, physics are different.
They can acquire scientifically verifiable evidence of what we would (in the real world) disregard as purely subjective anecdotal evidence.
Early on in season one Akela (sp?) was it first speculatively considered psychic by "Skye", Agent May pointed out: "no evidence for psychic powers", or words to that effect.
Considering the projected MCU phase sequence, the elements of magical thinking are working their way into the story lines quite well as seen, for example with Scarlet Witch.
(I'll probably edit this as needed when I sober up sometime tomorrow).
Drunken posts are the best ;-) I see where you're going and it actually makes some sense. For me the problem is that these ideas/concepts haven't been central to the series and are more used to explain away holes in the story.
I think season 4 will be AOS last season, after a shaky start they really got going after Winter Soldier, Season 2 was good (could have been much better as I've outlined in a previous article) but season 3 has been a let down, too many random stories/character arcs and they've totally dropped the ball with Civil War concepts and tie ins.
Lash - Yea, I hope he's not dead. If he really is, I'll be pi**ed. Feels like a huge waste. I was hoping he'd help at least take down Hive (like he was actually doing) and then...if it actually goes like this (speculation)
May would be the one to die. With May being one of, if not only, one who can reach Andrew in Lash, he'd either freak out over her death and/or escape into the wild, to be encounter by the team in the future (when they enter the tall grass)
So yea, him dying I really don't like.
On the whole "inhumans get specific powers for a purpose" as I was reading through I had the same thought as King Cheops.
The inhumans weren't created or designed with a specific need or purpose. Kree were just experimenting on them and putting whatever they got to use. Apparently Hive WAS designed, to be able to control the inhuman army, but who knows how many tries it took to give a human that sort of power set or capability to command armies.
But there are two possible reasons/theories as to the "purpose/destiny thing". Both could also be true...actually maybe 3.
1) After the inhumans took back control over themselves and began building their civilization and passing on their history through generations, they began the philosphy of "destiny/purpose". For those especially who would end up with radically different features and power sets, it'd be a comfort to know that they have a purpose and have a place within the world. They are important and the inhuman society accepts them and sees them as who they really are. Over time this became their philosophy and their belief that whatever you look like and whatever you can do, it has a place in the world.
2) Is kinda the same as number one, but it is Jia-ying's philosphy (or her own little inhuman society) passed down from ancient times.
Or hell, maybe once she was in control she lied to them all, told them this because it was a way to control them easier, comfort them, make them trust her....you know, indoctornate them. In the show (According to my memory) it's only Lincoln who's been saying all this, and Jia-ying who spouted it all. So, that's possible.
C) Powers are random in Kree times, thousands of years ago. But over time they did start changing and adapting to the world, like evolution. It's originally alien tech/stuff, so the speed of it happening over several thousand years, compared to the typical millions, is not too crazy. So powers and abilities are less random and more specific. Not like a certain person being given a specific power because the world will need saved by things and stuff. More like by reading a persons DNA and deciding that this specific power set would fit this person at this time. It would also help feed into the belief of destiny/purpose.
So yea, I think both 1 and 3 are the best way to view it...with 2 being another way to look at it.
I don't mind it, I kinda like it.
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Also, the need for tie-ins. I think they don't really need tie-ins to most of movies, not even CW (yet), and are kinda hurting themselves by doing it. Especially the whole before/after episodes. What they should really do is have episodes that play through the same timeframe as the movies.
In season 1 it made perfect sense. Season 2, it was not really needed and was kinda bodged up. And now for CW, kinda hamfisted. Let me explain by my "running through" idea.
Let's look at Age of Ultron. That takes place over....what? A week, little less, little more? Something like that. Now, onto Agents of Shield. The episode leading in to it featured Coulson giving the location of Lokis sceptre to Hill and the Avengers. Let's give them 1 day to go get it, then 3 days later Ultron is created, then a day or so between that and Africa fight. Maybe another 2 days between Africa and Seoul. And then perhaps another 2 between Seoul and the defeat of Ultron. So...8 days.
But then let's look at SHIELD. From the end of that episode, to the start of the next one (watching the aftermath of Sokovia), the plot hasn't moved forward at all. In 8 days. The power struggle and rift between both factions of SHIELD has just been in waiting and Coulson being Director and having oversight by Gonzales and co is only suggested in this scene. On top of that, Hydra is still out there and the knowledge of a village filled with powered people is also placed on the back burner. AND Theta protocol doesn't make sense. Why is it ready and needed before the Avengers have even gotten the sceptre. It's only half way through the film when Fury or Hill would contact Coulson and need it. Not to mention the Raina vision and it frankly being...well...laughable.
So a weird timeline as well as a plot hole is the tie-in we get. As I'm typing I realise it's hard to explain the running through idea with S2 XD. But bear with me...
Episodes 19, 20, 21 and 22 of S2 should have been happening at the same time as Age of Ultron. The timeline fits much better. There would have to be some story changes but...here's how I'd have done it.
Episode 19 "The Dirty Half Dozen" doesn't end with the sceptre/vision thing. It's a cool cliffhanger. But doesn't make sense now. However it ends with Coulson meeting with Gonzales and his group and offering them the oversight position and him staying Director. Why? Well one between episodes it'd at least give us something for the passing of a few days. Them working out the logistics of this merger, pooling the assets and a bunch of other stuff that's frankly kinda boring.
Maria Hill asking if Theta protocol is ready would be removed. Instead, Coulson would offer up the information like saying "Theta protocol has been ready for a few months now so if the Avengers need it, it'll be ready and waiting." Rest of scene is normal.
Rainas vision would also change. She originally sees metal men tearing our cities apart and the World will be changed forever. Ultron only destroys Sokovia (I guess there's destruction in Seoul and Africa but...ehh tis is clearly meant to foreshadow Ultron and his evil plans. And the changed forever line is kinda cliche. So I'd change it to something like "I see the sky, filled with metal men as they descend on a city fraught with destruction. They intend to bring about....our extinction."
Episode 20 "Scars" would open with the same scene, except not them watching Sokovia, but them talking to Maria Hill again. She mentions Ultrons attack at the party and how the Avengers aren't exactly sure what's next. Gonzales and Coulson are on better terms after the merger is complete and it's clear that Coulson has told him about Theta protocol and he has told him about the liquid rock.
Maria is told what SHIELD is planning next, in regards to the newly discovered inhumans and anything to do with Hydra. But if she or the Avengers need them, they'll provide help.
The rest of the episode is pretty much the same. I haven't watched them in a while, but I'd say at some point near the end of the episode we could get a mention of the Hulk v Hulkbuster fight in Africa, by someone talking about it or on the news.
Episode 21 "S.O.S" Pt 1 would be pretty much the same except somewhere after the halfway point, we learn that Maria Hill has been trying to get into contact with Coulson and co but was unable to (possibly cause she couldn't use normal methods in case Ultron was monitoring her or SHIELD and might plan an attack). Coulson learns at some point that Fury himself has turned up at Theta Protocol and taken the helicarrier, along with all of it's skeleton crew (Which is why nobody from the show, shows up...they are actually scattered and in the middle of battle with Jia-yings inhumans. THIS is when we find out what the T Protocol is.
Coulson could be annoyed, but ultimately is fine with it as he didn't need the Helicarrier and of course, if Fury needs it, it sure as hell must be bad.
Episode 22 "S.O.S" Pt 2 would stay the same, again. Except (though not really nesscessarily needed) a mention of the fight in Seoul.
The only big thing changed/added would be a scene at the end, with Coulson and May in his office watching the news footage of Sokovia.
Coulson: "Maria Hill called. She said she was grateful to us for making sure Theta protocol was ready."
May: "Can you believe, Stark caused...this? Creating an A.I that came moments from wiping us off the Earth?"
Coulson: "Well, I don't believe it was his intention. But, yes, I do. It's that damn sceptre. Killed me. Controlled others. And then..." *he trails off*
May: "There's going to be hell to pay for this. For all of them."
Carrying it through several episodes gives it's impact more weight, connects the movie and the show much better and let's people continue watching the show for an extra few weeks without stopping and worrying about it spoiling the movie before they get a chance to see it. There's nothing mentioned about the movie until the finale that actually spoils any big plot points about AoU. We had known in trailers and clips that Ultron attacks during the Avengers party and Hulk and Hulkbuster fight...
And of course, it fixes the timeline, fixes a small plothole and gives a better reason for the SHIELD crew not showing up (aside from the boring/obvious "timing/shooting schedules" and "cause they don't want to involve them"). And Maria Hill would have a bigger cameo of course, but her involvement would take less than a day to film, have her talking into a camera and/or over the phone. Not much more than what she actually did.
Of course, there's another problem you can say, that the AoS team don't know about how the movie is going to go and the scripts are written and probably filmed before the movie has been seen. But...all the scriptwriters would need to know is (at least for my changes above)
1) Some big points (most have actually been revealed in the trailer)
B) Tony created Ultron (also known/revealed, even longer than point number 1)
C) Roughly how much time passes by. So they can continue their story, but know where and when to add referances that make sense.
And all that is very possible to do. I actually refuse to believe it's that hard to do between the movie and t.v studio (despite the reported problems there, which probably weren't as bad back then) and when the director and the showrunner are brothers.
And to show my idea for the CW tie in...
Talbot should have appeared somewhere in episode 18/19. In fact he does, in episode 18, talking about Hydra. He should have had a chance to mention the Sokovia Accords, what they are and how many countries have signed it, especially with the latest Avengers incident fresh in the mind (Referring to Lagos, but keep it vauge so it could originally be seen as a callback to Sokovia). The Accords will be presented to the Avengers next week for them to either sign or retire if they refuse to sign. Coulson says that's not going to go well and none of them will sign. Talbot then smugly says "That's where you're wrong. Stark has been fully backing this all the way."
Then we get back on track with what Talbot is doing with Malicks intel and bombing Hydra bases.
Next, episode 19 stays the same. I can take or leave the line Hive says about Civil War (but it's kinda crammed in there with a crowbar). But the stinger (there actually wasn't one for this episode, was there?) is May or Simmons coming to Coulson (who's already beaten down by this whole situation) and gentley telling him they have some more bad news. (OMG, what is it now?!)
Episode 21 opens as normal with Coulson reading about
Peggys death. He can't go to the funeral though, because...well, HIVE.
The first talk with Talbot goes a bit differently...instead of the whole movie's plot being wrapped up by the start of this episode. It's just before the U.N bombing. The Avengers are split, but have signed the Accords. But Coulsons "not everyone." is in regards to Cap, Falcon and Wanda refusing to sign.
Talbot explains while the Accords was intially for the Avengers and the top priority, the document will also have limitations and registration for all enhanced/powered people located within the 117 countries that signed.
Giving a clearer reason why inhumans/aliens stuff wasn't mentioned in CW, but why it still affects the wider world.
Of course that's as far as I can take it now.....
TLR Sorry for rambling, but I started giving my thoughts on this and of course...didn't stop giving my thoughts on this Let me know what you think.
We also got a Spider-Man Easter egg in this episode from Talbot calling Lincoln, Electro. It's too bad that they removed the MCU connection from Agents of SHIELD, because Lincoln would of been a good Electro to face against Spider-Man in the Spider-Man solo movies for the MCU. To fit in with Agents of SHIELD, Disney can just tweak Electro's origin story and say he was a Inhuman this entire time
Wow. That was a great episode. Loved Lash kicking those abominations' asses. Also Hive vs Lash and Lash talking and then sacrificing himself gave me the feels.
Also the tie in with CW and the watch dogs made the episode great.
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