Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 1 Episode 2 "0-8-4" Discussion

[Xeno]

Small detail, for sure...but it is yet another example of how the characters basically all blend into each other. It's like they had one role to cast, found several actors they liked and said "screw it, let's hire them all." Again, very small detail. Maybe I never would have noticed if there were more differences between the characters.

Weird double post!

Here, have some Lola gifs:

 

[Dr. Evil]

Didn't think we would get to see SLJ so soon into the season.

Much better than the pilot.

 

[Son of Coul]

The SLJ cameo as Fury was brilliant. I knew that Marvel would make every effort to get him an appearance early on and capitalize on his name recognition.

Cool thing is they didn't even need to advertise or pump his name into every promo to get viewers, so it was a pleasant surprise. You'd think normally it'd be all "AND STAY TUNED FOR AN APPEARANCE BY SAMUEL L. JACKSON!" but they kept it on the DL (other than the one ambiguous tease about it).

RDJ doing a cameo could be tricky if Coulson's involved, since his scene would likely be something light and fun, like tonight's cameo. Having Stark shrug off SHIELD's lie about Coulson, considering his previous hardship with it would be pretty unsatisfying. Hopefully they'll be more clever than that if they integrate him in somehow.

More on the show, I hope they don't dwell on all the "mystery" stuff regarding some of the characters' backgrounds. Coulson's revival is one thing, but I'm so mystery-box'd out that it doesn't engage me to ponder Skye's real name or May's history or all dat bidness.

Oh yeah, and kudos to the ending with Skye. I mean you sort of know where it's going, but it at least feels like a progression of conflict within the team and the character herself, which is nice. Looking forward to the inevitable consequences of that.

 

[iamlegend]

Didn't think we would get to see SLJ so soon into the season.

Much better than the pilot.

Next week is the real test. Pilots are always tricky, and the second episode of a series is hampered by the fact that it's kind of gotta reiterate a lot of the crap from the pilot.

Now that they're both out of the way, we can get down to business.

 

[smallville fan]

The Samuel L. Jackson cameo was pleasant and I liked the foreshadowing of things to come for Skye. I'm now starting to jump on the bandwagon of her dying first maybe considering I have a feeling of how this might likely go.

Should someone or I make an R.I.P. thread?(considering that this is a Joss Whedon show after all)

 

[Sawyer]

So far, this episode >>>>>>>> Pilot

Skye is less annoying, even.

 

[cph9fa]

So at the end, when they used the Slingshot Rocket to throw the mcguffin "into the sun", I was kinda surprised the rocket wasn't named "Sentry".

 

[Just_Human]

Episode 2 was good IMO

ROFL at at Nick Fury going commando on Coulson in the after credit scene, classic Fury

 

[Dr. Evil]

Any notice the Red Skull references?

 

[WildChild]

Man, I loved this episode. A lot better then the pilot.

 

[Xeno]

The Samuel L. Jackson cameo was pleasant and I liked the foreshadowing of things to come for Skye. I'm now starting to jump on the bandwagon of her dying first maybe considering I have a feeling of how this might likely go.

Should someone or I make an R.I.P. thread?(considering that this is a Joss Whedon show after all)

There is already a "Who dies first?" thread. It might be buried on the second page now. I should know, I made it.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=464303

 

[Spade]

Characterization trumped the main conflict this week, which is fine, 'cause the pilot had a tough time with just that. That aside, the Dynamic Duo's starting to get on my nerves. That's clearly what the writers want, but it'd be better if they weren't such a nuisance.

 

[roach]

i'm giving it one more episode to get better and then Im done

 

[Just_Human]

i'm giving it one more episode to get better and then Im done

Lies !!!!!

 

[Mr. Dent]

Just stop now and save yourself the trouble and us the annoyance of having to post the drop post next week.

 

[Frodo]

Much better than the pilot imo. Alot fans were praising last week's episode and I really didn't get feel what they seeing in it. This week's much improved. While I still think the lead guy is kinda weak , and fitz and Simmons are like something from later seasons Buffy , I do like Ming Na, Skye, and Coulson.

This time the gags were better and the jokes weren't as lame. Yeah the maguffin wasn't spectacular , but the episode was much more entertaining as a self contained adventure . The Cameo at the end was funny too. All in All, I'll stick with it if the quality remains as good as this episode.

 

[roach]

Just stop now and save yourself the trouble and us the annoyance of having to post the drop post next week.

i dont post drop posts...and I really want this series to be good...but it's just painful for me to sit through.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

solid episode but I had to rate it weaker than the pilot because of the set pieces. look, I enjoy the hell out of this 90ies feel the show has, the pilot made me very nostalgic, but this week, the episode really looked too cheap. especially the first airport scene, where you clearly saw that the background was just a huge poster on the soundstage wall, but the peruvian set - all 50m2 of it - too.

 

[Sawyer]

Fitz-Simmons >>>>>>>>>>> Skye



And this episode actually looked way better than the pilot.

 

[C_Carmichael]

I gave this episode a 10, and here's why:

- The mysterious 0-8-4 gives us some good nods back to the MCU. The Hammer reference (so we'd know this was serious) and the Hydra / Tesseract reference. This is wt I had hoped for from the series, to give some good ties to the MCU, but allowing the story to flower on it's own.

- The action was good, and I think we're in for more of it as the season goes on. I especially liked the knockback device, and the hardlight displays. It makes you think Stark tech, yet, they don't feel the need to mention it.

- We got the team building exercise, and it wasn't a bloody trading card. Instead it was a totaled plane. Impressive that they decided to blow up the Bus (or the Mystery Machine) on only the second episode.

- Fury's fury. Not only did we get a Fury cameo, but we saw something we had never seen before. In the previous interactions between Coulson and Fury, it was a given that Coulson was Fury's "golden boy", and here we see that even goody-two-shoes Coulson isn't above getting a butt-chewing from the man in black.

- Fury's cameo suggests to me that Marvel has decided to pull out all the stops on this show. I would go so far as to say we might get a Barton or Romanov cameo, and I wouldn't rule out an Iron Patriot cameo either. And this is why Marvel is King of the Hill right now in the superhero wars. They have built a cohesieve universe where they can tell incredible stories, include incredible stars and keep a continuity we haven't seen since Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis. This is huge, and nothing DC has, or could conjure up in the next 5 years, could come anywhere close to bringing down the MCU juggernaut.

A 10, not just because of the episode, but because of it's implications for the franchise.

 

[Mr. Dent]

Church to the above post. That's really all you can realistically ask for. I don't know what some people were expecting.

 

[Superhero 101]

Thought the episode was good better than the first.

 

[T"Challa]

Church to the above post. That's really all you can realistically ask for. I don't know what some people were expecting.

I kinda agree with this. I said from the top. Not only is this a network TV show, its on ABC. That means its going to come with certain parameters that you'll have to deal with, because they have to appeal to ABC's chief audience, i.e. women and families. Wanting a gritty, dense drama isn't happening. Its going to fun action-adventure stuff for the most part with hopefully compelling characters as the show grows.

 

[Mr. Dent]

I gave this episode a 10, and here's why:

- The mysterious 0-8-4 gives us some good nods back to the MCU. The Hammer reference (so we'd know this was serious) and the Hydra / Tesseract reference. This is wt I had hoped for from the series, to give some good ties to the MCU, but allowing the story to flower on it's own.

- The action was good, and I think we're in for more of it as the season goes on. I especially liked the knockback device, and the hardlight displays. It makes you think Stark tech, yet, they don't feel the need to mention it.

- We got the team building exercise, and it wasn't a bloody trading card. Instead it was a totaled plane. Impressive that they decided to blow up the Bus (or the Mystery Machine) on only the second episode.

- Fury's fury. Not only did we get a Fury cameo, but we saw something we had never seen before. In the previous interactions between Coulson and Fury, it was a given that Coulson was Fury's "golden boy", and here we see that even goody-two-shoes Coulson isn't above getting a butt-chewing from the man in black.

- Fury's cameo suggests to me that Marvel has decided to pull out all the stops on this show. I would go so far as to say we might get a Barton or Romanov cameo, and I wouldn't rule out an Iron Patriot cameo either. And this is why Marvel is King of the Hill right now in the superhero wars. They have built a cohesieve universe where they can tell incredible stories, include incredible stars and keep a continuity we haven't seen since Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis. This is huge, and nothing DC has, or could conjure up in the next 5 years, could come anywhere close to bringing down the MCU juggernaut.

A 10, not just because of the episode, but because of it's implications for the franchise.

Also interesting you bring up Stargate. I think that should be the model they're aiming for, except on an even larger, far larger, scale. We're not talking about two fledgling movies and and TV shows, we're talking multiple blockbuster pictures all doing something different and several potential spin-off shows all tying back into this one, and vice versa. And hopefully we can have the 10 year/200+ episode run as well. 2023 baby.

solid episode but I had to rate it weaker than the pilot because of the set pieces. look, I enjoy the hell out of this 90ies feel the show has, the pilot made me very nostalgic, but this week, the episode really looked too cheap. especially the first airport scene, where you clearly saw that the background was just a huge poster on the soundstage wall, but the peruvian set - all 50m2 of it - too.

they shot on location at Peru. :/

 

[C_Carmichael]

Also interesting you bring up Stargate. I think that should be the model they're aiming for, except on an even larger, far larger, scale. We're not talking about two fledgling movies and and TV shows, we're talking multiple blockbuster pictures all doing something different and several potential spin-off shows all tying back into this one, and vice versa. And hopefully we can have the 10 year/200+ episode run as well. 2023 baby.

Stargate is definitely a model I would like to see this show adapt. Through the SG-1 and Atlantis years, there was no better intertwined fictional universe than that. Not even Trek.

The potential that Marvel has to work with here is enormous. As you point out, they have all of Phase 1 to work with, and we haven't even seen a modern incarnation of Hydra yet, nor a real adversarial AIM group. The groundwork for AIM was just laid in IM3, giving AoS something to build on there, and with an upcoming Cap movie next year, Hydra is ripe for some added story too.

The prospects of what is to come, not only from the MCU side of the franchise, but in this series as well, has me very excited. For Stargate fans, the 13 plus years of SG-1 and Atlantis were truly magnificent. The potential here, is even greater and I'm ready to enjoy the ride!