Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents of SHIELD - S02E13 - "One of Us"

[Loki882]

Has someone actually said that's the reason they killed off Garrett or is that just your speculation?

I know it wasn't announced Daredevil rights had reverted back until after filming for the AOS pilot had already began (that announcement was made in about April of 2013, right? and filming on the pilot started a few months before in January). However, given that not all 22 episodes are filmed right off the bat and filming episodes goes well into even after the show starts airing in the fall, I would think that if they had wanted to utilize him for any future MCU Daredevil project, there was plenty of time available (after the 'reverted' announcement) for them to adjust the story line of the back half of season 1 to accommodate (the episode where he first appeared - TAHITI, I believe - was probably filmed around late fall or so 2013) - or even simply just not kill him off in the final episode (that episode wasn't filmed until late March/Early April 2014).

No, no one has said that. Garrett probably died for a number of reasons:

-The season "big bad" dying at the end is a common trope on TV.
-It helps to further Ward's character by removing his only real purpose in life (serving Garrett).
-Bill Paxton probably had other commitments (I know that he was filming a History Channel mini-series recently).

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

He's just crazy, and whoever is playing him he just makes him seem crazy

Kyle Maclachlan
also known as

Paul Usul Muad'Dib Atreides

Or Agent Dale Cooper

Or - depending on your age - Cliff Vandercave

In short, if you existed back in the 80s/90s, you ******* KNOW Kyle Maclachlan even without ever seeing Blue Velvet.
Heck, even if you grew up only watching HIMYM you should at least know him as The Captain
​

 

[just one thing]

when bobbi asked couslon was he close to his deceased father, he responded by saying he forgot more than he remembered.

but when skye copped the clairvoyant was reading shield files she proved the point by quoting a of coulson phys evalualtion where she quoted his father dieing being the defining moment of coulsons life.

possible a case of mind your own buisiness but could it be a hint of some suspicion?

 

[CaptainWagner]

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you have no idea where they are going with the show.. or why they use who they use. but, they know why and have shown from day one to have a plan. Try to enjoy the show for what the show is and stop trying to make it the show you want it to be.

I like the show for what it is, it's just hard for me to watch it without wishing for it to be more.

 

[Mike5575]

Does anyone think that Coulson was a bit excessive in use of force for taking out that one guy at the end? The dude was begging Coulson, and he just clocked him with the toolbox. It was obviously meant to illicit a response from Skye as she sees how ruthless agents can be in taking down gifted people.

Is it me, or is Simmons absolutely adorable? There was even some FitzSimmons moments.

Oh, and poor Skye. It seems like that's going to be repeated for the next several episodes until she learns to control her powers.

The eyeless, teleporting man. I love how creepy he came across. "You were making too much noise." He called Cal an experiment. Ouch! A freak calling someone else a freak. My theory is that he went through the mist, and became weaker, experimented on himself to increase his strength, and it drove him a little crazy, obviously. The mist doesn't always give you something awesome. Sometimes you emerge from the mist even less powerful than before.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Kind of makes me laugh people complaining that they didn't just cut off her razor tips. She did surgically graft them to herself so it would be a bit more complicated than just removing them but then again I guess you could always just cut them off at the tip. But where would the fun in that be?

 

[Mike5575]

^
Some people must think they're nail extensions or something.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

3) They had sure better have a good reason planned for why the Inhumans are leaving Skye with Coulson. Because right now it makes no sense.

It strikes me that if one of your top goals is to keep your secret Inhuman base secret, bringing in someone with uncontrolled earthquake powers is probably a bad idea. All shield would need to find them is a seismograph.

 

[BarryAllen]

Has someone actually said that's the reason they killed off Garrett or is that just your speculation?

I know it wasn't announced Daredevil rights had reverted back until after filming for the AOS pilot had already began (that announcement was made in about April of 2013, right? and filming on the pilot started a few months before in January). However, given that not all 22 episodes are filmed right off the bat and filming episodes goes well into even after the show starts airing in the fall, I would think that if they had wanted to utilize him for any future MCU Daredevil project, there was plenty of time available (after the 'reverted' announcement) for them to adjust the story line of the back half of season 1 to accommodate (the episode where he first appeared - TAHITI, I believe - was probably filmed around late fall or so 2013) - or even simply just not kill him off in the final episode (that episode wasn't filmed until late March/Early April 2014).

That's never been stated. It's just Dasher10 making up stuff as usual.

 

[Mike5575]

It strikes me that if one of your top goals is to keep your secret Inhuman base secret, bringing in someone with uncontrolled earthquake powers is probably a bad idea. All shield would need to find them is a seismograph.

Good point. Not to mention, bringing in a Shield agent would compromise their secrecy.

 

[cph9fa]

Kyle Maclachlan
also known as...

(snip)

In short, if you existed back in the 80s/90s, you ******* KNOW Kyle Maclachlan even without ever seeing Blue Velvet.
Heck, even if you grew up only watching HIMYM you should at least know him as The Captain
​

Um. Nope. Born in '82 and never heard of any of those (nor ever watched HIMYM).

 

[Mike Murdock]

Garrett only died because Marvel lacked the Daredevil rights at the time. I don't feel like the same decision is going to be made with Mister Hyde since he's also an enemy of Thor, DD and Hulk.

That's twice factually inaccurate. Marvel got Daredevil's rights October 10, 2012, which was an entire year before Agents of SHIELD premiered and nearly two years before Garrett died. Garrett died because they were done with his story.

Calvin Zabo is an enemy of each of those characters, but that doesn't mean they have any plans to use him. If they don't care about using him, he could get killed off. Or they might keep him around. But it's going to depend on what the plot calls for, not what they want to do with Thor.

2) They make a huge deal about SHIELD being different now, while at the same time the episode shows how Coulson really hasn't changed policy at all. I really hope this "real SHIELD" differentiates itself by, you know, using these gifted people instead of locking them up and repressing their powers.

Like Hydra?

4) And lastly, this episode highlighted my biggest pet peeve about the show: Their refusal to use any characters above C-List level. By all rights, that should have been Doc Samson assessing Skye.

Except part of the point was to touch on May's backstory. Unless she hooked up with Doc Samson, that wouldn't happen. Would it be nice if they were allowed to use some bigger names? Sure, I agree completely. But the only reason to have Doc Samson is to have a big name for the sake of having a big name. It wouldn't have served the story.

 

[just one thing]

r.



Like Hydra?

or the avengers.

the show is presenting it as if there is a dichotomy of little options in this agent of shield world but is it the case, think they might be over embellishing this one.

 

[just one thing]

Does anyone think that Coulson was a bit excessive in use of force for taking out that one guy at the end? The dude was begging Coulson, and he just clocked him with the toolbox. It was obviously meant to illicit a response from Skye as she sees how ruthless agents can be in taking down gifted people.

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yeah she had a panic attack at that point and woke up with a voice over of something Cal said. it was implied all right.

 

[iambranded]

well..........this show is a tie in to Avengers: Age of ultron......
How much of an impact? We wont know till the week of its release
Overall i think the 2nd SHIELD is undermining Colusons debut as director.....does it create nice dynamics? Yeah i guess...but only if Cap...or Iron Man....or Hawkeye was leading it (2nd SHIELD)

 

[cph9fa]

Kind of makes me laugh people complaining that they didn't just cut off her razor tips. She did surgically graft them to herself so it would be a bit more complicated than just removing them but then again I guess you could always just cut them off at the tip. But where would the fun in that be?

Maybe they were adamantium. She was secretly X-23.

 

[ajmccarrell]

Kyle Maclachlan
also known as

Paul Usul Muad'Dib Atreides

Or Agent Dale Cooper

Or - depending on your age - Cliff Vandercave

In short, if you existed back in the 80s/90s, you ******* KNOW Kyle Maclachlan even without ever seeing Blue Velvet.
Heck, even if you grew up only watching HIMYM you should at least know him as The Captain
​

I always think of him from Sex and the City with his defective "John Thomas."

 

[ajmccarrell]

Um. Nope. Born in '82 and never heard of any of those (nor ever watched HIMYM).

He was also in Striptease

 

[eddy]

Kyle Maclachlan
also known as

Paul Usul Muad'Dib Atreides

Or Agent Dale Cooper

Or - depending on your age - Cliff Vandercave

In short, if you existed back in the 80s/90s, you ******* KNOW Kyle Maclachlan even without ever seeing Blue Velvet.
Heck, even if you grew up only watching HIMYM you should at least know him as The Captain
​

I remember him on Desperate Housewives. He's good in every role he plays!

 

[justme]

Some of my thoughts.

First, I didn't like this episode as much of some of the newer episodes. It did revert back to a monster of the week type episode. This episode felt as if it was a setup episode. It links to the inhumans and it links to the new rival Shield but can easily be thrown away.

Second, the episode shows how powerless Cal really is. Cal was only able to bring together the D list of enhanced humans and not the inhumans. The inhuman community seems to think of Cal as a wannabee.

As for letting Skye stay with Shield, it allows the inhumans to have a chance to learn of Shield's intentions without exposing their community. It leaves the inhumans the chance to either support Shield later or oppose Shield if it is needed. No one knows how the inhumans feel about Shield. The inhumans may feel that Shield is a good thing since it helps protect them from people like Hydra.

I still wonder about the inhuman community.

First, Daisy's mom must have helped a few inhumans take their first steps after being transformed. It makes me think that there must be another shrine, temple, whatever where people can be transformed. The Puerto Rico site was established by the Kree. The other site may have been set up by an inhuman community. Daisy's mom seemed to have stayed mostly in China.

Second, I wonder about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. Were they inhumans captured by Whitehall and give to his superior? The cages used to keep Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver; are they copies of the initial containment room used for the inhumans when Daisy's mom was helping them learn to cope with their powers? I just wonder

Also, I wonder why the Kree did not sense the inhumans previous transformations. Was it because of the war or like I speculate; the transformations did not occur at the Puerto Rico temple.

 

[goodfoot]

I think "the real SHIELD" is probably SWORD. I have heard they can't use that name. I think having two SHIELDs is going to get annoying.

 

[CapLover]

I don't think Cal is going to be killed off.
He might not become a series regular, but he'll be around.

Basically it appears as though the inhumans are trying to keep a low profile.

The guy with no eyes (Reader) was pretty angry at Cal when he told him "You're making too much noise".

Apparently announcing all of you and your associates' gifted abilities to the world is not on his priority of things to do.

 

[Tymminator]

Except part of the point was to touch on May's backstory. Unless she hooked up with Doc Samson, that wouldn't happen. Would it be nice if they were allowed to use some bigger names? Sure, I agree completely. But the only reason to have Doc Samson is to have a big name for the sake of having a big name. It wouldn't have served the story.

That's very true, but now of course it does set up for any future Doc Samson stuff if they wanted.

 

[Heretic]

They went to Doc Samson's university because they needed someone with Doc Samson's skills and came away with someone other than Doc Samson.

Heck, it doesn't even seem like they were willing to give us an entire team of comic book villains...and given how easy they were defeated they could easily just given us some forgotten "Mort of the Month" type losers.

It's just a shame. I know that it shouldn't get us more excited to see a character named after some comic character we don't care about...but many of us do prefer for the cast to be comic characters.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Oh, Blessed be! Confirmation that Zabo isn't Inhuman but a product of his own experiments. I considered that important and I'm glad I got it. And it makes me even more certain we'll see Hyde before the season ends.

"Results were... inconsistent. Some... volatility issues."

Kyle M has been in full on cheese mode for the last several appearances and it works so damn well. I love it.