BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 2

[jokesonm3]

Have you not caught on to Narci's schtick yet j3?

Ah nuts i thought he was serious.

I wonder Woman TV spot with new footage would've made me lose it.

 

[Clark-Kent]

Have you not caught on to Narci's schtick yet j3?

 

[Forever Evil]

What where??!?!

ffs post it my good man!

Hook, line and SINKER.

 

[jokesonm3]

I was about to tell you how you're slipping and nobody actually fell for that one, but then jokes came along...

Aye, results of a head full of slumber and a hand on a keyboard right now.

 

[Clark-Kent]

I guess the joke was on him

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Boy do i hope these future DC films turn his stance on critics hating him around.

Tis a good dream.

Critics have a history of turning up their nose at groundbreaking cinema.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_(film)#Reception
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shining_(film)#Initial_reception
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_(film)

It's the audiences that cause film to ENDURE, and then the critics start reading into cinema they should have been WATCHING to begin with.

I think this is starting to happen with Watchmen. I think it's being reexamined.

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/greatest-superhero-movies/
http://entertainment.time.com/2011/06/03/top-10-superhero-movies/slide/watchmen-2009/
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/uncategorized/is-watchmen-the/
http://whatculture.com/film/7-reasons-why-watchmen-is-the-best-dc-film-so-far-2.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag9dooZd4nc
http://www.ign.com/blogs/robbathehutt/2013/08/30/top-5-most-underrated-comic-movies

And of course, Ebert being ahead of his time. He will be missed :'(
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/watchmen-2009

^ 4/4-

So if I make a movie with mixed critical reviews upon reception that audiences love, I know I've done something right

PS. I want to be a director. PM me your screenplays

 

[jokesonm3]

Ah yes, Robert Ebert, one of the most respected reviewers in the industry and actually liked most of Snyder's films, indeed he will be missed.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Critics have a history of turning up their nose at groundbreaking cinema.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_(film)#Reception
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shining_(film)#Initial_reception
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_(film)

It's the audiences that cause film to ENDURE, and then the critics start reading into cinema they should have been WATCHING to begin with.

I think this is starting to happen with Watchmen. I think it's being reexamined.

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/greatest-superhero-movies/
http://entertainment.time.com/2011/06/03/top-10-superhero-movies/slide/watchmen-2009/
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/uncategorized/is-watchmen-the/
http://whatculture.com/film/7-reasons-why-watchmen-is-the-best-dc-film-so-far-2.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag9dooZd4nc
http://www.ign.com/blogs/robbathehutt/2013/08/30/top-5-most-underrated-comic-movies

And of course, Ebert being ahead of his time. He will be missed
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/watchmen-2009

^ 4/4-

So if I make a movie with mixed critical reviews upon reception that audiences love, I know I've done something right

PS. I want to be a director. PM me your screenplays

Uh, I though you was not going to this anymore, man?

Mrs. Wayne, call the cops!

 

[jokesonm3]

Even in Batman Beyond, Bruce had fits of rage.

Bruce Wayne + Age = a whole load of anger on the criminals of Gotham.

Old grumpy Bruce is way better than new noobie Bruce.

 

[jokesonm3]

I think if Batman were NORMAL, he would just move on, or seek therapy, or take up a hobby.

Bruce was a weird kid who got DAMAGED.

Never knew the worlds finest were best buddies as kids.

I want to see this as cannon in the DCEU, especially BvS.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

That 6th spot tho!

WW holding an unconscious Superman in her arms.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Never knew the worlds finest were best buddies as kids.

I want to see this as cannon in the DCEU, especially BvS.

I wouldn't want it in the DCEU, but I think it could make for a good episode on Gotham.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Never knew the worlds finest were best buddies as kids.

I want to see this as cannon in the DCEU, especially BvS.

Blegh, ive never been a fan of that. And it wouldn't make any sense in the dceu.

 

[jokesonm3]

But without them realizing it would've been interesting.

Like what was Clark doing when the Wayne family funeral was on the news 24/7 etc.

 

[KarkClent]

But without them realizing it would've been interesting.

Like what was Clark doing when the Wayne family funeral was on the news 24/7 etc.

Getting his super-diapers changed. He's a lot younger than Batman here.

 

[jokesonm3]

You know im gonna enjoy the moment we get a worlds finest secret identities reveal like the animated series.

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[TX85]

Great tv spots and especially #4

 

[Tensor]

I'm having #4 on repeat. It's that good.

 

[Mad Love]

If I'm honest, no I haven't seen anything that's particularity wowed me. Mostly because there's a history of the guy in charge promising so much in his trailers and coming up short.

If that's the case, it's disingenuous to say you're being skeptical. Skepticism is neutral. You're being cynical due to preconceptions based on admittedly the previous movie and the director. That's what informs the pattern which is made only by yourself.

 

[jokesonm3]

Yeah Affleck's speech on the 4th tv spot is top notch.

He's clearly giving it his all for this role.

 

[jokesonm3]

And the 3rd spot made me really excited to see all the regular banter that goes around in the daily planet.

 

[Tv's Phil]

If that's the case, it's disingenuous to say you're being skeptical. Skepticism is neutral.You're being cynical due to preconceptions based on admittedly the previous movie and the director. That's what informs the pattern which is made only by yourself.

While I have no problem with your overall stance, I have to disagree with the bolded.

 

[Mad Love]

While I have no problem with your overall stance, I have to disagree with the bolded.

In what way? Skepticism is questioning from all angles.

 

[jmc]

If that's the case, it's disingenuous to say you're being skeptical. Skepticism is neutral. You're being cynical due to preconceptions based on admittedly the previous movie and the director.

Something looking awesome doesn't mean it is awesome, and there's enough past evidence from the creator to suggest that it would be foolish for one to jump to the conclusion he has knocked it out of the park or fixed his previous weaknesses. Not believing the hype is not cynicism.

 

[Mad Love]

Something looking awesome doesn't mean it is awesome, and there's enough past evidence from the creator to suggest that it would be foolish for one to jump to the conclusion he has knocked it out of the park or fixed his previous weaknesses. Not believing the hype is not cynicism.

People who are optimistic or hyped or favorable of the movie aren't necessarily jumping to conclusions. They're reacting to what has been shown. That's not a judgement on the movie itself which hasn't been seen.

The director is not the creator. Movies are made by a team of people. Previous movies are not evidence of another movie's quality.