BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - Part 247

[Zordan]

Pa Kent taught him not to fight his way through emotional situations (remember him being bullied right in front of him)

Pa Kent also taught him to be wary of the intentions of others (a good lesson for the like of dealing with Lex)

Pa Kent also fostered his love for the human race.

Pa Kent didn't hide from him who he was once he was old enough to understand it.

Pa Kent taught him (through his death) that self-sacrifice for something bigger than yourself is an acceptable decision to make.

or you could be smart like Jaxon and say something like this

 

[Cats]

You should've paid attention to the movie then.

If it was that clear, then I would be getting one single explanation from people on this forum who I assume have watched the movie multiple times, not all the various guesses that don't all correlate. It didn't have to be that long at all, just a 5 second mention by Zod, if it was the astronaut "underwear" that he tapped from - at least that seems most logical to me atm.

 

[RadioSha]

Pa Kent taught him not to fight his way through emotional situations (remember him being bullied right in front of him)

Pa Kent also taught him to be wary of the intentions of others (a good lesson for the like of dealing with Lex)

Pa Kent also fostered his love for the human race.

Pa Kent didn't hide from him who he was once he was old enough to understand it.

Pa Kent taught him (through his death) that self-sacrifice for something bigger than yourself is an acceptable decision to make.

Plus Clark not saving his dad shows that he trusts his dad. He trusts what he said about the world. The world isn't ready and neither is Clark. Good post!

 

[TDKR1977]

Pa Kent was brilliant character, and deep to understand by a random dummie (no offence)

Pa Kent's death was choice of himself and Clark. Whether Clark could save him? of course he could but he didn't "want".
Imagine you are the person who adopted the god damn alien from literally another planet in this real world we live in! how the hell would you deal with it??

As much as that was Clark's choice, that was Nolans, Goyers and Zacks choice, that is filmmaking you cant argue with choices.

But folks here will. They don't understand that the enemy of the good is the perfect. So they don't enjoy the movie. That's their loss.

 

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[Mozart's Defib]

Two men wrestling in their underwear.

My favorite part of that image is the random girl peeking at them from behind the silk screen.

 

[Cats]

I think because Clark was young and headstrong. Pa Kent sacrificed himself to drive the point home. Since he was raising a God, he had to go big. If he screwed up being an influence, it could cost the entire human race.

That's the thing, it was a needless sacrifice if Pa Kent could've been there in person, in later years, to continue to be that influence on Clark. They did argue in the car, but I think Clark, being who he is, would've submitted - like it or not. If they wanted Pa Kent to die, make it completely accidental and nothing with holding Clark back from saving him.

 

[Broseph44]

If it was that clear, then I would be getting one single explanation from people on this forum who I assume have watched the movie multiple times, not all the various guesses that don't all correlate. It didn't have to be that long at all, just a 5 second mention by Zod, if it was the astronaut "underwear" that he tapped from - at least that seems most logical to me atm.

A few people gave you explanations. And they all make sense.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

The suit thing is such a non issue to me. Utterly meaningless to anything actually germane to the story. Does it really matter if the suit had been there for thousands of years or if the Jor-el AI had the ship create it? In any rationalization of it it's purpose in the story is unaffected. In the scene Clark receives the suit as a symbol of his true origin and Jor-el explains the meaning of the crest emblazoned on the chest. Does it change anything if we learned something about where it comes from and why it's colored the way it is? That sort of thing goes straight to the head scratching nit pick file for myself.

 

[Cats]

A few people gave you explanations. And they all make sense.

That's why I asked And while they might all make sense, they aren't all the same.

 

[TDKR1977]

That's the thing, it was a needless sacrifice if Pa Kent could've been there in person, in later years, to continue to be that influence on Clark. They did argue in the car, but I think Clark, being who he is, would've submitted - like it or not. If they wanted Pa Kent to die, make it completely accidental and nothing with holding Clark back from saving him.

He was human. You don't get the gift of foresight in the middle of a Midwestern tornado. You choose, period. Or...you search for reasons that something doesn't work. And here we are...

 

[ConnorKon-El]

Why would Warner Bros. skip the Super Bowl AND Deadpool and release the trailer on GMA Monday the 15th?
I think 15th will be tickets going on sale tbh.

 

[fake]

Why would Warner Bros. skip the Super Bowl AND Deadpool and release the trailer on GMA Monday the 15th?
I think 15th will be tickets going on sale tbh.

I agree, that will most likely be the announcement. Trailer will play before Deadpool for sure, and also maybe a 30 sec SB spot.

 

[Cats]

The suit thing is such a non issue to me. Utterly meaningless to anything actually germane to the story. Does it really matter if the suit had been there for thousands of years or if the Jor-el AI had the ship create it? In any rationalization of it it's purpose in the story is unaffected. In the scene Clark receives the suit as a symbol of his true origin and Jor-el explains the meaning of the crest emblazoned on the chest. Does it change anything if we learned something about where it comes from and why it's colored the way it is? That sort of thing goes straight to the head scratching nit pick file for myself.

You probably don't care, but Superman's been pictured with those colors for years to inspire American patriotism, same as Captain America. It still works for the capt since he was an American soldier, but makes no sense that an alien from Krypton would be wearing American colors. I was curious if Snyder took the chance to explain a reasoning behind those colors, not related to the American flag. I think a number of the older fans of Superman would agree that it's a good reason to give it a 5 sec explanation, just to clear the air and set a new meaning for those symbolic colors.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

The Pa Kent in MOS was much more inspiring than the one from Superman The Movie. Example:

Superman 1: "One thing I do know son is that you were put here for a reason, I don't know who's reason or whatever the reason is, maybe...........*shrugs*, I don't know. But I do know one thing, it wasn't to score touchdowns"

Man Of Steel's Pa Kent explains to Clark that he owes it to himself to find the truth when he's ready, to be patient as he's not ready, that when he finally is old enough to understand the responsibility, he can either stand proud in front of the human race or not.

All the Pa Kent from Superman 1 did was tell Clark that he can't play a game that he loves so much and then follows that with, I don't know why your here, I got nothing, sorry to confuse you son but I'm just a hick farmer with no ideas to put forth.

 

[Jaxon]

You probably don't care, but Superman's been pictured with those colors for years to inspire American patriotism, same as Captain America. It still works for the capt since he was an American soldier, but makes no sense that an alien from Krypton would be wearing American colors. I was curious if Snyder took the chance to explain a reasoning behind those colors, not related to the American flag. I think a number of the older fans of Superman would agree that it's a good reason to give it a 5 sec explanation, just to clear the air and set a new meaning for those symbolic colors.

Not everything needs explaining and nor should it. This one is best to sit with a theory that you're comfortable with. It's;

a) a 10,000 year old design
b) created by the scout ship via Jor-el's AI

 

[Cats]

He was human. You don't get the gift of foresight in the middle of a Midwestern tornado.

Which he could've avoided being within if he'd sent Clark to deal with the dog instead. It's been a while since I've seen MoS but I recall Clark offering to do that job. It was Pa Kent who told him to run to shelter with Ma Kent instead. It almost felt like Pa Kent was on a suicide mission.

 

[Knightfall]

Ok so I've been out of the loop for a couple days. Has this new trailer been confirmed and when should this be dropping? Tomorrow or afterwards? Obviously we're guessing but what seems to be the general consensus?

 

[Zordan]

Btw I was reading comments on EW and similiar sites since Zack's comments about "true canon Supes" and now Max Landis bullsheet... and I can notice that more and more people are liking MoS nowadays... Few haters here and there but everybody shuts em up with simple video "how many people Supes saved in MoS"

 

[Lily Adler]

Two men wrestling in their underwear.

Dat ASS! Also it appears to be tearing at the seams.

 

[Zordan]

Jaxon I will use your thoughts to **** people up on internet? do I have permission?

 

[TDKR1977]

Which he could've avoided being within if he'd sent Clark to deal with the dog instead. It's been a while since I've seen MoS but I recall Clark offering to do that job. It was Pa Kent who told him to run to shelter with Ma Kent instead. It almost felt like Pa Kent was on a suicide mission.

He wasn't, but when it came time and he realized he had no way out, he stood on principle.

 

[rogbngp]

Ok so I've been out of the loop for a couple days. Has this new trailer been confirmed and when should this be dropping? Tomorrow or afterwards? Obviously we're guessing but what seems to be the general consensus?

As far as I know what we have is this

http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx

which some have noted is historically reliable and trailers posted there usually are aired within 1-7 days. I believe that's all we know unless some new info came to light over the last several hours.

 

[Cats]

Not everything needs explaining and nor should it. This one is best to sit with a theory that you're comfortable with. It's;

a) a 10,000 year old design
b) created by the scout ship via Jor-el's AI

Although you're the third differing suggestion of the age of the ship/design. Another thing that I wanted to ask - I heard rumors that the crashed Kryptonian ship is Supergirl's ship. Do you agree? And if so, wouldn't that make her thousands of years older than Kal-El? I suppose that makes them not actual cousins.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I agree, that will most likely be the announcement. Trailer will play before Deadpool for sure, and also maybe a 30 sec SB spot.

So when do you think it will hit the inter webs?