BvS All Things Batman v Superman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 269

[brucebatman]

that new tv spot is AMAZING im really intrigued whats happening to lois in the water? aquaman hast to show up then!

 

[matt47]

that new tv spot is AMAZING im really intrigued whats happening to lois in the water? aquaman hast to show up then!

eeh...anyone else think that would be too convenient? Lois falls in the water so Aquaman just be there to save her?

 

[brucebatman]

eeh...anyone else think that would be too convenient? Lois falls in the water so Aquaman just be there to save her?

maybe we will haft to wait and see...

 

[RadioSha]

eeh...anyone else think that would be too convenient? Lois falls in the water so Aquaman just be there to save her?

I don't think that scene has anything to do with Aquaman. J

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Regarding the LOD, I think since the JL is kinda forming off the bat, it'll be cool if they did their slow Avengers-esque / Thanos-esque buildup with the supervillain team instead. Have Lex/Joker meet at the end of BvS, SS or JL, deciding the work together (mirroring BvS), and have them recruiting defeated villains at the end of solo movies Nick Fury-style.

Seeing all the villains interact would be gold, not to mention unique in the superhero space.

And I don't think it should have anything to do wIth the Suicide Squad, except for maybe Lex meeting Joker, and if the sequel introduces Deathstroke (which it most definitely should. Deadshot v Deathstroke anyone? Katana v Deathstroke? Green Arrow? Black Canary? ).

 

[matt47]

I don't think that scene has anything to do with Aquaman. J

I hope not.

 

[Tv's Phil]

Regarding the LOD, I think since the JL is kinda forming off the bat, it'll be cool if they did their slow Avengers-esque / Thanos-esque buildup with the supervillain team instead. Have Lex/Joker meet at the end of BvS, SS or JL, deciding the work together (mirroring BvS), and have them recruiting defeated villains at the end of solo movies Nick Fury-style.

That would be an interesting way if they ever decide to do post-credit scenes. I'm not sure they are but IF.

 

[rogbngp]

So we have both heroes having [BLACKOUT]"dreams/visions"[/BLACKOUT], a cameo of [BLACKOUT]Flash from the future[/BLACKOUT] and the BTS news of what the line up looks like for JL and the reveal of Malone not making the final theatrical cut... Any other big things from today we can think of?

This level of detail about Wondy surprised me:

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Wonder Woman is the only other member of the future Justice League with a major role, and for most of the movie we see her as alter-ego Diana Prince – a glamorous covert agent, working only for herself, who runs afoul of Bruce Wayne as they engage in rival missions to steal some of Luthor’s most disconcerting secrets. She’s not like a Bond girl – more like James Bond himself...

... Johns points to her climactic battle with Doomsday... as one of his favorite character moments. “I love her in the movie. I love when she’s hit by Doomsday and she turns around and smiles, like she hasn’t been in a fight like this in a long, long time,” he says. “She clearly… she missed it.”

...[T]he Wonder Woman movie, while largely set in 1918 during World War I, will be framed by “present day” bookends that also take place after BvS. Meanwhile, BvS includes teases about what that upcoming movie will reveal about Wonder Woman’s past.

... She’s enough in the movie where you definitely feel her presence. And she makes a huge impact on the film. But there are giant mysteries still surrounding her at the end of the movie.”

And this one proved El Mayimbe to be right many months ago now:

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The director becomes animated as he reenacts their big knock-down, drag-out battle. “Superman doesn’t have to be as much of a chess player as Batman,” says Snyder. Superman has might on his side, but before the fists start flying, we see an armored Batman placing various traps in an abandoned stockyard, then walking along and driving a Kryptonite spear into the ground. “He paces it off,” Snyder says. “Then when he throws Superman, the spear is right there. So you’re like, wait a minute, did he [plan] every bit? He know every move?”

This regarding how Doomsday is created:

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Johns points to her [Wonder Woman's] climactic battle with Doomsday, a Kryptonian Frankenstein-monster created by Luthor from the remains of Michael Shannon’s General Zod...

Batman's motivation to fight Superman:

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“...[A]s certain characters discover evidence of fellow “metahumans” who could either become powerful allies – or maybe foes. Batman isn’t sure, and his default setting is to perceive everyone stronger than him as an enemy. Snyder and co-writer Chris Terrio (who won an Oscar for Argo) cleverly jiu-jitsu a common complaint about Man of Steel to explain why Batman hates Superman so much: he blames him for the death and the destruction the hero unleashed on Metropolis in his battle with General Zod.

The idea that there are more [Krytponian or other metahumans], that’s hopeful and also terrifying to him,” says Affleck. “Because then they could make humans even more powerless – or they could serve on our side.” This is a Batman who has been at it for nearly two decades, and he’s both tired and a little hopeless.

...The trailer features a Robin uniform, covered with Joker graffiti, which implies the Boy Wonder has been killed in a previous story. He’s starting to wonder if he ever really saved anyone – or just made things worse. “He’s projecting his own sense of failure, his own sense of disillusionment, his own cynicism onto Superman,” Affleck says.

When we will finally see Green Lantern:

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Rovens says we may not see Hal Jordan, John Stewart, or any incarnation of Green Lantern until Justice League – Part Two. Maybe. “Every beat of the movie is not yet worked out. So there’s the possibility that he may or may not be in Justice League 2,” the producer says. “For now, we felt that we were introducing enough characters that the best possible place we could put Green Lantern is some introduction in Justice League 2, or barring that, a movie after.”

How old Batman might be in the the first Batfleck standalone Batman film:

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... [W]e may see a stand-alone Batman movie where Affleck doesn’t have all that gray in his temples. But… that movie is still in the talking phase. “It’s in development..." says Affleck

Further stuff on the psychology of the Batman and Superman characters (particularly Superman) that drives the conflict:

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Geoff Johns, chief creative officer at DC Entertainment and an executive producer of BvS, says... “Batman isn’t just a character. He’s a character within Gotham City, with all the iconography behind him and the emotional underpinning of Bruce Wayne and the fight for justice, which is a pretty dark fight when it comes to Batman. And then you have Superman, on the other hand, who has a very different world he lives in and a very different way he operates and in a very different methodology to how he protects people and why he does it. He doesn’t wear a mask. He really wants to be accepted because, quite honestly, I think as a kid he never felt accepted. He never felt like he was one of us.”

...This Superman is still a newbie, still trying to figure out what to do with his strengths. Still trying to avoid making mistakes. “His weakness is that he doesn’t want to hurt anyone. He doesn’t want to scare anyone, and in that you can take advantage of him,” Cavill says. “This is someone who is a complete amateur, and he’s facing up against someone who is very well versed in the arts of war.”

When Suicide Squad takes place in relation to BvS:

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Suicide Squad takes place after the events in BvS.

And it's not really a spoiler but it was interesting to read also that the decision to push the release date back by a year was in order to plan, in a very detailed way, how all the details embedded in BvS will connect with the slate of following DC films, i.e., to map out how this universe is going to unfold with all of its interweaving story arcs.

 

[AnneFan]

that new tv spot is AMAZING im really intrigued whats happening to lois in the water? aquaman hast to show up then!

I'm intrigued as well. Maybe it happens shortly after her encounter with Lex?

 

[jokesonm3]

Saw this on Tumblr.

A fellow Rooster Teeth fan?

 

[BH/HHH]

When do we expect the next batch of EW news?

 

[brucebatman]

I'm intrigued as well. Maybe it happens shortly after her encounter with Lex?

maybe only 2 1/2 weeks till we find out.

 

[Citadel30]

This level of detail about Wondy surprised me:

Spoiler

"Wonder Woman is the only other member of the future Justice League with a major role, and for most of the movie we see her as alter-ego Diana Prince – a glamorous covert agent, working only for herself, who runs afoul of Bruce Wayne as they engage in rival missions to steal some of Luthor’s most disconcerting secrets. She’s not like a Bond girl – more like James Bond himself."

And this one proved El Mayimbe to be right many months ago now:

Spoiler

The director becomes animated as he reenacts their big knock-down, drag-out battle. “Superman doesn’t have to be as much of a chess player as Batman,” says Snyder. Superman has might on his side, but before the fists start flying, we see an armored Batman placing various traps in an abandoned stockyard, then walking along and driving a Kryptonite spear into the ground. “He paces it off,” Snyder says. “Then when he throws Superman, the spear is right there. So you’re like, wait a minute, did he [plan] every bit? He know every move?”

I'm beginning to think el mayimbe was pretty spot on for this one guys. good for him.

 

[BH/HHH]

Doesn't everyone remember Aquaman's cameo in Matt Wagner's Trinity book? Batman sees him in the sea whilst he's riding the Batsub. Not that Batman has to be the one to see him but I think something like that could work.

 

[matt47]

why?

Like I said above..If this is how Aquaman is introduced it will feel forced as hell. Are we to believe that he was just swimming about in that area at that exact time?

 

[matt47]

I'm beginning to think el mayimbe was pretty spot on for this one guys. good for him.

It's seeming that way.

 

[dario2739]

Like I said above..If this is how Aquaman is introduced it will feel forced as hell. Are we to believe that he was just swimming about in that area at that exact time?

Well that depends on where the water is, the events leading up to Lois going in the water... there are loads of reasons Aquaman could be there.

 

[brucebatman]

Like I said above..If this is how Aquaman is introduced it will feel forced as hell. Are we to believe that he was just swimming about in that area at that exact time?

maybe its not his introduction? maybe its not in the sea it could be a tank? maybe its the genesis chamber.. who knows but dont forget this movie is also directed at kids and superman's introduction in man of steel was saving an oil rig so its not completely out of the question.
they are heroes after all.

 

[matt47]

I just think Snyder n co could come up with a 20 better ways to introduce him than just saving Lois.

 

[Ahasverus]

When is the article about the R cut coming out today?

 

[matt47]

When is the article about the R cut coming out today?

Fingers crossed it's at the same time the article was released yesterday

 

[BH/HHH]

I think Aquaman will reveal himself in the Lois & Clark bathtub scene

 

[steelers4190]

I think Aquaman will reveal himself in the Lois & Clark bathtub scene

Usually have to pay more for that kind of action

 

[AnneFan]

I think Aquaman will reveal himself in the Lois & Clark bathtub scene

That's in the R rated cut.

 

[moviefreak]

What else would it be? You must exercise vigilance on the internet.

Well, then you shouldn't have replied to the spammer's post. His post & the link is still visible in your post for all to see.

General rule is not to response to spam and troll --the very same thing you do with e-mail. lol