All Things Wonder Woman: An Open Discussion

[SofNascimento]

what is the "God Mode?"

I don't know that much about WW's lore.

It's something new to Azzarello's run (the current Wonder Woman books). Basically when she take out her bracelets she can become more powerful and she becomes more godlike. So people call it godmode.

Both from Wonder Woman issue #12.

Azzarello is exploring this concet is a very interesting way. If you ever wanted to read Wonder Woman, now it's the time. It's her best run ever.

 

[Mad Love]

It's something new to Azzarello's run (the current Wonder Woman books). Basically when she take out her bracelets she can become more powerful and she becomes more godlike. So people call it godmode.

Azzarello is exploring this concet is a very interesting way. If you ever wanted to read Wonder Woman, now it's the time. It's her best run ever.

No, it's not a new concept. In Pre-Crisis (Golden/Silver Age), all Amazons wore bracelets and if they are taken off they would go into a frenzy of rage but their strength would increase dramatically.

In New 52, Azzarello adapted that idea for only WW. The bracelets repress her divine powers. If she removes her bracelets, she has access to all her strength but she has less control over herself and can slip into a rage.

 

[X Knight]

ah, thanks.

I didn't know about that.

it sounds interesting, and I wouldn't mind if they used that idea.

 

[Mad Love]

I like it. It's very DBZ in a good way. Makes her less predictable and it's a cool visual.

 

[SofNascimento]

No, it's not a new concept. In Pre-Crisis (Golden/Silver Age), all Amazons wore bracelets and if they are taken off they would go into a frenzy of rage but their strength would increase dramatically.

In New 52, Azzarello adapted that idea for only WW. The bracelets repress her divine powers. If she removes her bracelets, she has access to all her strength but she has less control over herself and can slip into a rage.

I was going to say it's based on this older thing, but as I don't know how it worked thematically I prefer not to. And for the sake of simplicity too.

Anyway, ss I see it, godmode is not a berserker mode, and she doesn't go into a frenzy or anything like that. She retains full control of her actions, she may be more mad when she is godmode, but the latter is a consequence of the former, and not the other way around.

 

[Mad Love]

I was going to say it's based on this older thing, but as I don't know how it worked thematically I prefer not to. And for the sake of simplicity too.

Anyway, ss I see it, godmode is not a berserker mode, and she doesn't go into a frenzy or anything like that. She retains full control of her actions, she may be more mad when she is godmode, but the latter is a consequence of the former, and not the other way around.

Well it's not truthful say it's new. As I said, Pre-Crisis is where the idea came from. I didn't say or suggest that both versions were completely identical.

She has less control over herself and can slip into a rage when she has the bracelets off. That's what has been shown so far. It hasn't been revealed how god mode completely works.

 

[SofNascimento]

She has less control over herself and can slip into a rage when she has the bracelets off. That's what has been shown so far. It hasn't been revealed how god mode completely works.

I disagree. The idea that she loses control of herself was not stated anywhere, people just assumed this. She does say to Artemis (if I remember correctly) that the godmode can result in undesired destruction, but it does not imply somekind of rage and/or loss of self restrain.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

My question, like when Batman suddenly has IRON MAN styled armor is... If she has control, and it makes her a more formidable foe for her opponents to end the fight quicker... Why have not just keep the bracelets off all the time? Why NOT learn to harness this power in an effective way?

 

[theOVOXO]

I disagree. The idea that she loses control of herself was not stated anywhere, people just assumed this. She does say to Artemis (if I remember correctly) that the godmode can result in undesired destruction, but it does not imply somekind of rage and/or loss of self restrain.

well in issue #23 Ares asked her, "Are you prepared to lose..." WW then replies, "my control?".

I guess it confirms that WW does lose control, or is consumed by rage when she unleashes her full power. Part of this could be due to the fact that she didn't embrace the warrior/god part of herself. But now that she has accepted the mantle as the GoW a few issues ago, I wonder if she'll have full control when the final battle against the First Born occurs.

 

[Micromind]

The new 52 WW is inexperienced (just like Superman in Man of Steel was inexperienced and not fully accustomed to his super powers) so when she takes off her bracelets, she is not able to fully control the damage she will cause.

 

[SofNascimento]

I guess it confirms that WW does lose control, or is consumed by rage when she unleashes her full power. Part of this could be due to the fact that she didn't embrace the warrior/god part of herself. But now that she has accepted the mantle as the GoW a few issues ago, I wonder if she'll have full control when the final battle against the First Born occurs.

I don't see it that way. Two points: First you do have the fact that the destruction she can cause becomes too unpredictable and she won't have it most of the times. In a superficial level it's similar to how Superman holds back, although thematically they are very different. Second, and most importantly, I believe the main reason Wonder Woman doesn't use it often is this one:

It goes against who she wants to be. It's just a crude power, a "Storm" to quote Ares. The control they are talking about is a restrain Wonder Woman imposes on herself in the porsue of being a better person.

It's worth noting that In both situations that she used godmode she was very aware and rational, being able to negociate with Apollo in 12 and calmly put her bracelets back on in 23. You could argue she was angrier than she is used to be in both those situations, but we've seen her being similary angry with her bracelets on. Therefore, she being more aggressive is not a result of taking out the bracelets, it's more the cause of it. She would be equally mad against the First Born if she didn't had this ability.

Wonder Woman sees taking out the bracelets as a personal sacrifice and it's one that she doesn't make lightly.

 

[theOVOXO]

I don't see it that way. Two points: First you do have the fact that the destruction she can cause becomes too unpredictable and she won't have it most of the times. In a superficial level it's similar to how Superman holds back, although thematically they are very different. Second, and most importantly, I believe the main reason Wonder Woman doesn't use it often is this one:

It goes against who she wants to be. It's just a crude power, a "Storm" to quote Ares. The control they are talking about is a restrain Wonder Woman imposes on herself in the porsue of being a better person.

It's worth noting that In both situations that she used godmode she was very aware and rational, being able to negociate with Apollo in 12 and calmly put her bracelets back on in 23. You could argue she was angrier than she is used to be in both those situations, but we've seen her being similary angry with her bracelets on. Therefore, she being more aggressive is not a result of taking out the bracelets, it's more the cause of it. She would be equally mad against the First Born if she didn't had this ability.

Wonder Woman sees taking out the bracelets as a personal sacrifice and it's one that she doesn't make lightly.

Completely agree about the first point, since WW has made it clear that when she goes into "god mode", collateral damage will result. And yes she has shown awareness and rationality when uncuffed, however against the First Born she was beginning to lose herself. Consumed in her own rage she began to hesitate (which was ironic claiming that she wont), thus giving FB an oppurtinity to strike. In short, the angrier she becomes, the less control she has. So yeah I also agree with you that her aggressiveness is not a result of taking of the bracelets and unleashing her full power. Which I should have elaborated on in my earlier post. Sorry about that.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of that idea. Taking the bracelets idea from Marstons only works if you're using that bondage them.

Otherwise, it means that WW's natural state is rage and uncontrollable and she can never take off the bracelets.

 

[SofNascimento]

Otherwise, it means that WW's natural state is rage and uncontrollable and she can never take off the bracelets.

It's not, she isn't hulk. Godmode is not that, and we've seen her without the bracelets just fine.

It's about personal restrain and making sacrifices to be a better person. She won't start destroying things or attacking allies by accident.

 

[Sharkboy]

God mode...that is adorable.

~god ~noclip ~givehealth

I miss quake.

 

[bluerayer]

God mode...that is adorable.

~god ~noclip ~givehealth

I miss quake.

I miss doom. Most of all i miss Outlaws by LucasArts.

 

[Sharkboy]

I miss doom. Most of all i miss Outlaws by LucasArts.

I just miss LucasArts. Fate of Atlantis, Day of the Tentacle, Sam and Max, Monkey Island, Grim Fandango.

I love the recent Adventure Game re-emergence.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

It's not, she isn't hulk. Godmode is not that, and we've seen her without the bracelets just fine.

It's about personal restrain and making sacrifices to be a better person. She won't start destroying things or attacking allies by accident.

So taking off the brackets doesn't actually mean anything?

 

[SofNascimento]

God mode...that is adorable.

~god ~noclip ~givehealth

I miss quake.

Jesus, I still remember iddqd idkfa.

So taking off the brackets doesn't actually mean anything?

It does. Think about this way, godmode is a physical representation of Wonder Woman choosing to be a God instead of a hero.

 

[LamboMan]

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[LamboMan]

I've seen this pic a few times now and I wanted to ask something to those who've read this series; are all the people on paradise island related?

If the 'sons' of paradise Island are coming back does that mean they are all brothers?

Does that mean that all the girls there are their sisters?

Why in the world is that chick sitting there naked? Homecoming bachelor party combo?

 

[Aethea]

At this point I am really concerned about the rumored jacket they want to put on her--from Wonder Woman #600. YUCK.

 

[Mad Love]

I've seen this pic a few times now and I wanted to ask something to those who've read this series; are all the people on paradise island related?

If the 'sons' of paradise Island are coming back does that mean they are all brothers?

Does that mean that all the girls there are their sisters?

Why in the world is that chick sitting there naked? Homecoming bachelor party combo?

They are the sons of different Amazon mothers. They are not related as brothers and sisters unless they were twins.

The naked woman is the goddess Aphrodite whose face is never shown.

 

[Mad Love]

At this point I am really concerned about the rumored jacket they want to put on her--from Wonder Woman #600. YUCK.

I wouldn't want that to be her main costume either.

However, it's basically just pants and a jacket with her bodice. I wouldn't mind if she wore something like that in the modern world and then changed into her full costume.

 

[LaughingMage]

Eh, if you just make them "Ageless/Immortal" on Paradise Isle then all that goes away.

... and makes them rather boring again. Quite honestly I really like the way Azarello portraits them as being rapists and murderers. Why? Because they are finally interesting as a fictional race. They have all these high strung ideals yet fall horribly short because of their own flawed concepts and necessity. I like flawed and I like the "Game of Thrones" approach to the Amazons. Makes for much better reading in my book.