Comics "Alpha Mutants": The Official Discussion Thread

[Valechan]

Rogue should be Alpha... even though her power is just physical, she can easily use the powers of others on the same level they can, heck now, Sunfire's powers are permanently bonded to her.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

I think that an alpha is someone whose powers are both strong and without a signifigent flaw.Colossus would be an alpha because his powers are both very strong and fully controllable. Cyclops' lack of control is due to injury and not inherent and in any case he has largely overcome the problem by other means . Betas are those whose power is limited but controllable or powerful but flawed. Mystique for example has a power that is extremely useful and with which she is very skilled, but the power is not of great strength thus she would probably be a beta. She is still a formiddable opponent due to the usefullness of her power and her skill. Rogue would also be a beta since her powers are not truly under her control.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Cyclops not being able to control his power has nothing to do with a brain injury.

 

[Majik1387]

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[Kevin]

um, how the hell is wanda NOT Omega? just wondering...

 

[masterj]

She hasn't been stated to be one yet so therefore she isn't although if writers wanted to I could see how she could be an omega.

 

[Exploding Boy]

And she is depowered so yeah. Although it most likely wont last long.

 

[javon]

Wanda is hella powerful.

 

[D-scythe]

Omega's can also "exist" out of their physical bodies by creating another with their powers. Like Iceman can become a being of pure ice (not just turning his body into ice - he creates a *separate* body with his powers), or X-man can exist as a being of pure psychic energy. They don't need flesh and blood to exist.

Powerful Alphas like Xavier, Storm, Cyke, Mags, etc. can be pretty damned powerful, and writers often don't have their potentials defined anyway. It seems that Marvel defines "unlimited potential" as the ability to exist beyond flesh and blood in a vessel that your powers create, rather than actually being infinitely destructive/powerful.

 

[javon]

Then whats up with Storms elemental being thing?

 

[D-scythe]

Then whats up with Storms elemental being thing?

What elemental being thing? As far as I recall, Storm cannot make a separate body for herself with her own powers.

 

[X_fan08]

u never know what marvel will write for storm. she could have a second mutation that gives her power over ground and plants. she could place her mind the earth itself. just a theroy.

 

[D-scythe]

u never know what marvel will write for storm. she could have a second mutation that gives her power over ground and plants. she could place her mind the earth itself. just a theroy.

Um, so what? That still doesn't make her an omega-class mutant. Her powers are finite, and her powers will never reach the level where Storm can transcend flesh and blood and create a separate body of pure elemental energy that Ororo can exist within.

Like it or not, so far, Storm is nowhere close to an omega-class mutant.

 

[javon]

Um, so what? That still doesn't make her an omega-class mutant.

Okay what is wrong with you? He said "You never know", not that she is Omega.

her powers are finit,

Uncanny X-men #147 she states that her power is infinite

and her powers will never reach the level where Storm can transcend flesh and blood and create a separate body of pure elemental energy that Ororo can exist within.

Did someone tell you this or are you just saying this? The writers can do anything they want, it isn't up to you to decide now is it?

Like it or not, so far, Storm is nowhere close to an omega-class mutant.

Wow, everything you just said is just a lie. Storm is the closest to Omega class as she'll ever be. You seriusly need to read up on Storm if you think she isn't close to being an Omega class.

 

[D-scythe]

Why so defensive and prickly all of a sudden? Sure, in the future, some writer CAN make her into an omega mutant (just like any writer can make any mutant into an omega-class meta), but currently, she isn't, and never have been. Doesn't mean she never will.

And I nothing I said was a lie. I see Storm for what she is - a NON-omega - while you put her up in a pedestal and multiply her powers by several orders of magnitude just to make her better in your mind. Not my fault you can't handle the truth.

Jeez, it's like I stepped on your tail or something.

 

[javon]

Why so defensive and prickly all of a sudden? Sure, in the future, some writer CAN make her into an omega mutant (just like any writer can make any mutant into an omega-class meta), but currently, she isn't, and never have been. Doesn't mean she never will.

Are you crazy? I wasn't defensive about anything. You just had some razy fit just because he said that "she could" be Omega. I just had to put you in your place. And if you say "it doesn't mean she never will", then why did you write this: "and her powers will never reach the level where Storm can transcend flesh and blood and create a separate body of pure elemental energy that Ororo can exist within"? Pretty crazy to all of a sudden forget what you wrote.

nothing I said was a lie.

Oh? "her powers are finite", "and her powers will never reach the level where Storm can transcend flesh and blood and create a separate body of pure elemental energy that Ororo can exist within". That is a lie. So instead of getting mad at me, you need to look back on what you said.

I see Storm for what she is - a NON-
omega - while you put her up in a pedestal and multiply her powers by several orders of magnitude just to make her better in your mind.

Like she said in Uncanny X-men #147, "I am what I am". And you have to have mental problems if you think I have ever gave her a power that isn't hers. Your nothing but A Storm hater, which anyone can see in you posts in her official thread, and this one.

i my fault you can't handle the truth.

Jeez, it's like I stepped on your tail or something.

What are you talking about? STORM IS NOT OMEGA. That is not the first time I had to say that. You really have no idea what your talking about do you?

 

[D-scythe]

Yeah, think what you want.

 

[javon]

I knew you wouldn't have to have anything else to say once you were told the truth. Anyway, what issue was Storm considered an Alpha?

 

[D-scythe]

I knew you wouldn't have to have anything else to say once you were told the truth. Anyway, what issue was Storm considered an Alpha?

The "truth" is that whenever it comes to Storm, your IQ gets cut in half. Talking to you (about Storm currently and in the past NOT being an omega) is like talking to a wall, and given a choice, I'd rather talk to a wall.

So have a good one, okay? Thanks.

 

[javon]

Well? Does anyone know what issue Storm was condidered an Alpha?

 

[masterj]

The fact that she isn't an omega proves that she is an alpha.

 

[javon]

What?

 

[D-scythe]

The fact that she isn't an omega proves that she is an alpha.

Dude, why even bother? Step back for a second here and look at this guy's reasoning...the fact that Storm's mutant class was never mentioned automatically makes her an omega. I mean, shoot, if that's not the dumbest logic I've ever came across.

Hey, I think there are about a billion other mutants who never had their mutant powers classed as alpha or omega either. Let's just make them all omegas!

Oh, and if you go to the Official Storm thread, you'd also see that javon is the very same person who thinks Storm can manipulate matter at sub-atomic levels just like a high-level telekinetic can.

Brick wall people, brick wall.

 

[javon]

Dude, why even bother? Step back for a second here and look at this guy's reasoning...the fact that Storm's mutant class was never mentioned automatically makes her an omega. I mean, shoot, if that's not the dumbest logic I've ever came across.

You have already seen that I have ignotred you...I guess some people stya mad 4 ever when they get told off.

Hey, I think there are about a billion other mutants who never had their mutant powers classed as alpha or omega either. Let's just make them all omegas!

Everyone knows that Storm is Alpha. I have said it before. Again, what are you talking about?

Oh, and if you go to the Official Storm thread, you'd also see that javon is the very same person who thinks Storm can manipulate matter at sub-atomic levels just like a high-level telekinetic can.

Oh now you betta stop telling lie's. Go on there and prove ANYWHERE where I said that please. And it's a shame when you have to actually browse the thread to see what people are saying....shame on you.

Brick wall people, brick wall.

How childish.

 

[HandOfFate]

The fact that she isn't an omega proves that she is an alpha.

I really wouldn't say that right now because we have no idea who Marvel consider an Omega mutant. Keep in mind that Alpha mutants where consider the highest level of mutation until X-Men: Forever.

The definition of Omega mutants is still to vague to make an assumption on any high level mutant like Storm, Magneto, Prof .X, Polaris, Havok and even Cyclops. IMHO, there a 50/50 chances that any high level mutant could be a potential Omega.

Anyway back to the discussion about alpha mutants.

Oh, and if you go to the Official Storm thread, you'd also see that javon is the very same person who thinks Storm can manipulate matter at sub-atomic levels just like a high-level telekinetic can.

Oddly enough, I can't think of one mutant telekinetic who has ever manipulate matter at a sub-atomic level. The only person I know that can actually do this is Sersi of the Avengers. IIRC, even when Jean manipulate matter on a cosmic scale it only went to the atomic level. Most high level TKs can only manipulate matter on a molecular level.