Comics "Alpha Mutants": The Official Discussion Thread

[D-scythe]

Well, if you want to go that route then Storm can also rearrange the structure of atoms.

As you can see I'm all for that line of thinking.

Anyway...go back and check, I'm almost 100% sure they alway say molecules. AAMOF, if you read Pheonix's entry in the OHOTMU, it will say that Pheonix has control on a molecular level.

Was it ever explained that her powers "created" those clothes? As long as you're making explanations up, I might as well say that her lightning teleported those clothes onto her body.

Just as sound an explanation as all this bull$hit of Storm manipulating atoms/molecules.

And for the record, there is NO way to change air molecules into clothing molecules without first changing the nuclear structure (i.e. protons, neutrons) of the atoms themselves.

 

[HandOfFate]

Was it ever explained that her powers "created" those clothes? As long as you're making explanations up, I might as well say that her lightning teleported those clothes onto her body.

Just as sound an explanation as all this bull$hit of Storm manipulating atoms/molecules.

Interesting...you're trying to use a bullsh1t explanation to try to downplay the scan because it proves you wrong.

Hmmm....

Sorry, but it's not my fault that Storm's powers are not as limited as you wish them to be.

And for the record, there is NO way to change air molecules into clothing molecules without first changing the nuclear structure (i.e. protons, neutrons) of the atoms themselves.

Guess what? I really don't care because both of those explanations work in my favor.

 

[Nature's Rising]

Personally I think the only reason Storm can change her clothes using lightning is because of poor writing and wanting to make something visually interesting.

She always do this in the Uncanny series.

 

[javon]

Was it ever explained that her powers "created" those clothes? As long as you're making explanations up, I might as well say that her lightning teleported those clothes onto her body.

Just as sound an explanation as all this bull$hit of Storm manipulating atoms/molecules.

And for the record, there is NO way to change air molecules into clothing molecules without first changing the nuclear structure (i.e. protons, neutrons) of the atoms themselves.

It seems to me is as though you have something against Storm if you have to curse just to prove a point. Storms powers are on a moleculer/atomic level. And with that "their is NO way to change air molecules into clothing molecules without first changing the nuclear structure (i.e. protons, neutrons) You forgot to add ELECTRONS which Storm has somewhat control of. This just makes her an even more dangerous apponent.

 

[D-scythe]

Haha, so you guys don't have an explanation/proof? Great, glad we cleared that up.

Sorry, but it's not my fault that Storm's powers are not as limited as you wish them to be.

Actually, I should be the one apologizing. Sorry for shattering your fantasy of a Ororo with limitless powers. Must be devastating for you.

Storms powers are on a moleculer/atomic level...You forgot to add ELECTRONS which Storm has somewhat control of.

This just shows how uneducated you are when it comes to physics. ELECTRONS are not part of the NUCLEAR structure of an atom. To change an air molecule (N2, O2, CO2, Ar, etc.) into the type of molecule/atoms found in clothing, you must be able to at least modify the nucleus of these atoms to change them from one type to another. Electrons don't figure into this at all.

Javon, do the world a favour from now on and stop trying to explain Storm's power scientifically. That would be great.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Electrons just get excited and raise to another level by absorbing photons. That has nothing to do with altering matter/atoms into different types of matter/molecules/atoms

 

[masterj]

Can we please move this Storm clothing thing on please. It is already been discussed in the Strom thread. This thread is for discussing alpha mutants as a whole group and what people's opinions are on the classification itself and the mutants classified as alpha level. This is not a thread that is gunna turn into yet another Storm debate. Please, can we move on because there is not going to be a way for most of us to agree on how she can chang her clothing and I think we are all getting confused with all the science on here, I know I am lol.

 

[HandOfFate]

Haha, so you guys don't have an explanation/proof? Great, glad we cleared that up.

Uh...the proof is in the picture, we don't need anything else. It's not my fault if you want to live in denial even though the proof is looking right at you.

Actually, I should be the one apologizing. Sorry for shattering your fantasy of a Ororo with limitless powers. Must be devastating for you.

That's cute, you mentally can't accepted that Storm actually did something outside of your limited view of her powers, so you reply with a childish response.

Again...interesting. Is this all you have to offer?

Please, can we move on because there is not going to be a way for most of us to agree on how she can chang her clothing and I think we are all getting confused with all the science on here, I know I am lol.

Sorry about that, I just find it odd that s/he can't look at the evidence right in front of their eyes.

So lets talk about Psylocke or Bishop or even Jubilee.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Jubilee is so underrated. People think she sucks. She can do alot of things, she just doesn't choose to because it's out of character

 

[javon]

Haha, so you guys don't have an explanation/proof? Great, glad we cleared that up.

Put on your thinking glasses real quick. Do you see the picture at the top....that proves everything that you don't wanna know 4 some reason. Sorry to shatter YOUR fantasy.

This just shows how uneducated you are when it comes to physics. ELECTRONS are not part of the NUCLEAR structure of an atom. To change an air molecule (N2, O2, CO2, Ar, etc.) into the type of molecule/atoms found in clothing, you must be able to at least modify the nucleus of these atoms to change them from one type to another. Electrons don't figure into this at all.

How stupid. We don't exactly how she does this so I put in electrons to figure that it had something 2 do with the how she does that.

Javon, do the world a favour from now on and stop trying to explain Storm's power scientifically. That would be great.

My my my. Why would I not turn to science? Just to live my life guessing how she did it? No no. I look at things the positive way so if you don't wanna here the truth about Storms powers, then stop whining and deal with the fact that her powers are on a molecular/atomic level. I guess hearing "molecular" in a sentence with Storm burns your ears huh?

 

[D-scythe]

Can we please move this Storm clothing thing on please. It is already been discussed in the Strom thread. This thread is for discussing alpha mutants as a whole group and what people's opinions are on the classification itself and the mutants classified as alpha level. This is not a thread that is gunna turn into yet another Storm debate. Please, can we move on because there is not going to be a way for most of us to agree on how she can chang her clothing and I think we are all getting confused with all the science on here, I know I am lol.

But isn't it fun laying the logical beat down on the Omega-Extremist-Storm-shippers?

Uh...the proof is in the picture, we don't need anything else. It's not my fault if you want to live in denial even though the proof is looking right at you.

What proof? I don't see anything that suggests she made clothing out of thin air or whatever. In fact, as long as we're making stuff up to suit our fantasies, I'd like to think Storm teleported those clothes onto herself, which therefore suggests that she has teleportation powers.

See, closer to Omega already!

That's cute, you mentally can accepted that Storm actually did something outside of your limited view of her powers, so you reply with a childish response.

Ah, making stuff up again? Where did I accept *anything*?

Again...interesting. Is this all you have to offer?

I have my credibility. You lost yours about 20 posts back.

How stupid. We don't exactly how she does this so I put in electrons to figure that it had something 2 do with the how she does that.

Yup, stick to the insane Storm fantasies. Physics just isn't your calling man.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Can we please move this Storm clothing thing on please. It is already been discussed in the Strom thread. This thread is for discussing alpha mutants as a whole group and what people's opinions are on the classification itself and the mutants classified as alpha level. This is not a thread that is gunna turn into yet another Storm debate. Please, can we move on because there is not going to be a way for most of us to agree on how she can chang her clothing and I think we are all getting confused with all the science on here, I know I am lol.

 

[HandOfFate]

Jubilee is so underrated. People think she sucks. She can do alot of things, she just doesn't choose to because it's out of character

I actually liked Jubilee, I hate that they took away her powers.

IIRC, Synch was able to use her powers to exploded something on a sub-atomic level. Meaning that she can destroy atoms when she reaches her full potentail. That's scary when you reallly think about it.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Her powers were similar to Gambits in that aspect. Just in the end result not how she actully went about it.

 

[javon]

This thread is for ALPHA MUTANTS so we can discuss ANYONE, not just Storm. We are haing a debate and as long as people don't get rude and curse, I don't see anything wrong with it.



Edit: I once did here that Jubes can destroy at a molecular level.

 

[HandOfFate]

What proof? I don't see anything that suggests she made clothing out of thin air or whatever. In fact, as long as we're making stuff up to suit our fantasies, I'd like to think Storm teleported those clothes onto herself, which therefore suggests that she has teleportation powers.

See, closer to Omega already!

Ah, making stuff up again? Where did I accept *anything*?

I have my credibility. You lost yours about 20 posts back.

Sigh...so what color is the sky in your world? I bet you it's a nice green or even better purple sky. I would think that purple would be such a nice color this time of year.

Anyway, unless you have something of interst to say next time, I will not speak to you again about this subject.

Thank You.

Back to Jubilee...

 

[javon]

Yeah..to Jubes (I like sayin' that). Wouldn't it already make sense that she could destoy atoms....objects? Unless she could use her power on a specific object causing it to inaminate.

 

[D-scythe]

The sky is blue because light of shorter wavelength allows it to be absorbed by and then radiated from gas molecules in the atmosphere. Colours with longer wavelengths (like red, orange, yellow, green) simply pass through.

Similarily, scientifically, the ability to control the flow of electrons, or ionize air molecules, does not give Storm any ability at all to change the identify of the atoms in the air themselves (that is, in its nucleus), thus it's impossible for Storm to create atoms of clothing out of atoms of air, which are different from each other on the *nuclear* level. Electrons (specifically, valence electrons) only control the interactions between one atom and another - the electrons themselves cannot change the atom itself. That is, a hydrogen atom will ALWAYS be a hydrogen atom, if it has 1, 2 or 8 electrons floating around it.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Yeah..to Jubes (I like sayin' that). Wouldn't it already make sense that she could destoy atoms....objects? Unless she could use her power on a specific object causing it to inaminate.

I'm not sure what you mean but she can use her power on a specific object to blow it up.

 

[HandOfFate]

Jubilee blowing stuff up (kind of)





Man, I miss Synch.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Storms clothing like all the X-Men is made of unstable molecules. The transformation ability is built into the clothes and is triggered by a preprogrammed use of the wearers powers.

 

[HandOfFate]

Storms clothing like all the X-Men is made of unstable molecules. The transformation ability is built into the clothes and is triggered by a preprogrammed use of the wearers powers.

As I said earlier, she not wearing any cloths in that pic.

Page just before making cloths.

 

[masterj]

As I said earlier, she not wearing any cloths in that pic.

Storm is such a skank lol. Parading naked around the mansion, she should be arrested for indecent exposure

 

[HandOfFate]

Storm is such a skank lol. Parading naked around the mansion, she should be arrested for indecent exposure

LL

Shoot, I love skanky girls, they got me through high shcool.

Maybe I'm giving to much information on a message board.

Now what where we talking about?

 

[Neptune]

Well since we have an entire thread on Omega's, how about the mutants close to Omega. Now their are too much to list so I'll just naem a few because I also don't know them all:

Storm
Scarlet Witch
Rogue
Gambit


I know their are tons more but I am to lazy to look them up right now so please feel free to discuss anything about them like in the Omega thread. And I started to put "High alpha's, mid Alpha's, and low alpha's" and stuff because their are some powerful than others but that would have been crazy so thats a no.

Actually, Gambit is a omega mutant. Fullyu powered, he can charge all organic as well as inorganic matter without having to be in contact with a object. But his powers went bonkers and he couldn't control them. He went to Sinister for help and Sinister cut off a piece of his brain so he can now only charge inorganic matter by touching it.