Amazing Spider-Man ARTISTS and ART

[CantThinkOfAName]

I guess flexibility allows you the ability to grow Hulk-size hands.

 

[Themanofbat]

Ross Andru created the Punisher and illustrated the original clone saga. He had a pretty long run in the 70's. Themanofbat was around 35 at this time.

That sounds about right... give or take a few months...

 

[The Question]

I don't see any of those things, at least in that pic. The faces aren't even visible under the masks, the muscles look fine for superheroes, and the anatomy looks fine, with the only possible problem being Spidey's wrist, but Spidey is supposed to have superhuman flexibility so that's also reasonable I'd say.

Spider-Man's head is very strangely misshapen. The way his right arm is drawn makes it look like he has a large hump on his back, and his upper back muscles that we can see look distorted, kind of like they're sticking out but also fusing together at his neck. Also, I thought his left arm looked freaky at first, but then I realized it's fine. The problem is that the upper left side of his torso looks like it's going out both more than a human's should and more than it is on the other side. Moon Knight obviously has no nose underneath his mask and the way he's positioned, assuming they're standing on a ledge, makes it seem highly suspect that he has legs. Also, Spidey's hands look kinda blocky.

 

[Themanofbat]

Thank you Jewhob. I'm certainly not slamming them as Dan seems to think. As a matter of fact I owned a number of Ross Andru drawn spidey issues in my youth.

When you say things, and I quote, "I think Ross Andru and Gil Kane were very good for their time", it's implying that their art would not be good by today's standards, which is akin to "slamming these artists and their art"... which is probably what Dan thinks... I know I do...

Capish?

 

[storyteller]

the Ron Garney is kinda slim pickins but,

You know I kinda miss that suit.........I miss a lot of things about that Spiderman.

 

[runawayboulder]

Loved the suit....HATED the colors.

Ron Garney drew a hell of a Cap.

 

[runawayboulder]

double

 

[Spider-Gnome]

No, I think they were very good for their time.

I also think top level comic art has progressed/improved since then.

Like Da Vinci was good, for his time.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

In your opinion.

I'm with Random Havoc. I just don't have the tastes for older styled artwork. I appreciate it for it's time, but I don't consider it good these days. Unlike some of the older posters, I have no nostalgia to help me appreciate the quality.

Get off my lawn!

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Ross Andru created the Punisher and illustrated the original clone saga. He had a pretty long run in the 70's. Themanofbat was around 35 at this time.

In addition to the items mentioned, Ross Andru was also the artist for the original Spider-Man vs. Superman (which I believe was the first DC/Marvel super hero crossover), Aunt May & Doc Ock's wedding, the original Tarantula, Harry first becoming the Goblin, Mindworm(!), Spider-Mobile, the 3rd Goblin saga (Dr. Hamilton), & Pete's first proposal to MJ. It was a great run!

And get off TMOB's lawn, too!

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Oh, I also like Ron Frenz (that was Spider-Man during my college days) and Ron Garney.

Yeah, I posted a bunch of times in a row. I'm old.

Get off my lawn!

 

[JewishHobbit]

In addition to the items mentioned, Ross Andru was also the artist for the original Spider-Man vs. Superman (which I believe was the first DC/Marvel super hero crossover), Aunt May & Doc Ock's wedding, the original Tarantula, Harry first becoming the Goblin, Mindworm(!), Spider-Mobile, the 3rd Goblin saga (Dr. Hamilton), & Pete's first proposal to MJ. It was a great run!

And get off TMOB's lawn, too!

Oh okay, I'm familiar with him then. He was good. I liked him. I wouldn't put him anywhere in my top 10 or anything but he was definately likable.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Loved the suit....HATED the colors.

Ron Garney drew a hell of a Cap.

That he did. His and Waid's run on Captain America was great.

 

[runawayboulder]

That he did. His and Waid's run on Captain America was great.

I used to love those iconic panels of Cap standing at attention and saluting, then Clinton would salute back. That was something you never saw Cap do much at the time.

 

[Dan_Slott]

Good for his time. But even look at the shading style used, just doesn't stack up to today.

Stop being that guy.

If the late Ross Andru and Gil Kane had been frozen, Captain America-style, in a block of ice, and thawed out today, ANY book would be LUCKY to have them! Look at George Perez or Alan Davis-- these guys have been in the industry for decades-- and DECADES of GREATNESS! Their styles have stayed CONSISTENTLY good-- in the cases these giants, they've even improved and refined! And I don't know of a SINGLE writer working in the industry today that wouldn't KILL work with them.

Your position-- while rooted in your personal taste-- is OBJECTIVELY, horribly, horribly, horribly off base. Feel the way you feel-- and for your own private universe you can be right. But out here in the real world, you're 100% wrong.

Since Ditko left Spider-Man, for the longest time John Romita Sr., Gil Kane, and Ross Andru were THE gold standard. Was their work great then? ABSOLUTELY! Is it STILL GREAT NOW? HELL, YEAH!

Their art Spider-Man TRANSCENDS time. It is the mark that modern Spider-Man art strives to hit with every following generation of artists. It's an exclusive club that some of our talented modern day artists are honored to join-- NOT look back on as dated relics. That's crazy talk.

Art from those three artists is PERFECT and TIMELESS. And PERFECT never goes out of style.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Amen. Get a colorist using modern coloring techniques on those images and it'd be pretty tough to single them out as "dated" art.

 

[random_havoc]

Amen. Get a colorist using modern coloring techniques on those images and it'd be pretty tough to single them out as "dated" art.

You're freakin kidding right? The ONLY way I'd have even the SLIGHTEST difficulty in telling them apart is if they were compared to Martin, who I already pointed out draws like people from 3-4 decades ago himself!

 

[random_havoc]

Stop being that guy.

If the late Ross Andru and Gil Kane had been frozen, Captain America-style, in a block of ice, and thawed out today, ANY book would be LUCKY to have them! Look at George Perez or Alan Davis-- these guys have been in the industry for decades-- and DECADES of GREATNESS! Their styles have stayed CONSISTENTLY good-- in the cases these giants, they've even improved and refined! And I don't know of a SINGLE writer working in the industry today that wouldn't KILL work with them.

Your position-- while rooted in your personal taste-- is OBJECTIVELY, horribly, horribly, horribly off base. Feel the way you feel-- and for your own private universe you can be right. But out here in the real world, you're 100% wrong.

Since Ditko left Spider-Man, for the longest time John Romita Sr., Gil Kane, and Ross Andru were THE gold standard. Was their work great then? ABSOLUTELY! Is it STILL GREAT NOW? HELL, YEAH!

Their art Spider-Man TRANSCENDS time. It is the mark that modern Spider-Man art strives to hit with every following generation of artists. It's an exclusive club that some of our talented modern day artists are honored to join-- NOT look back on as dated relics. That's crazy talk.

Art from those three artists is PERFECT and TIMELESS. And PERFECT never goes out of style.

Oh man, that's quite a sermon, but doesn't exactly come across as objective... at all.

When I have some time I'll try to come back and give you pic for pic examples as to exactly why I disagree.

 

[The Question]

Stop being that guy.

If the late Ross Andru and Gil Kane had been frozen, Captain America-style, in a block of ice, and thawed out today, ANY book would be LUCKY to have them! Look at George Perez or Alan Davis-- these guys have been in the industry for decades-- and DECADES of GREATNESS! Their styles have stayed CONSISTENTLY good-- in the cases these giants, they've even improved and refined! And I don't know of a SINGLE writer working in the industry today that wouldn't KILL work with them.

Your position-- while rooted in your personal taste-- is OBJECTIVELY, horribly, horribly, horribly off base. Feel the way you feel-- and for your own private universe you can be right. But out here in the real world, you're 100% wrong.

Since Ditko left Spider-Man, for the longest time John Romita Sr., Gil Kane, and Ross Andru were THE gold standard. Was their work great then? ABSOLUTELY! Is it STILL GREAT NOW? HELL, YEAH!

Their art Spider-Man TRANSCENDS time. It is the mark that modern Spider-Man art strives to hit with every following generation of artists. It's an exclusive club that some of our talented modern day artists are honored to join-- NOT look back on as dated relics. That's crazy talk.

Art from those three artists is PERFECT and TIMELESS. And PERFECT never goes out of style.

Even if you argue that John Romita's art was relatively simple, the fact is that he at least has a basic understanding of perspective and anatomy, unlike many so called "dynamic" artists of today. I don't care how action packed your art is, if your human characters' skulls look like they belong to a Grey with gigantism, we have a problem.

 

[The Question]

Also, am I the only one who loves The Punisher's original design? Like, I like his current one, the black leather duster really suits him, but I'd like to see a hybrid of the two. At least incorporate the teeth of the skull being the front pockets on his belt thing. That's my favorite part.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Since Ditko left Spider-Man, for the longest time John Romita Sr., Gil Kane, and Ross Andru were THE gold standard. Was their work great then? ABSOLUTELY! Is it STILL GREAT NOW? HELL, YEAH!

Awesome! Absolutely right!

We may not always agree (and you don't reply to the one query I make everytime you visit us here), but we certainly agree here! You speak the truth!

Oh man, that's quite a sermon, but doesn't exactly come across as objective... at all.

No, sir. What Dan said was FACT. t:

 

[Themanofbat]

That's right....

... and get off my lawn!!!

 

[Spider-Gnome]

That's right....

... and get off my lawn!!!

t:

 

[masteryoda]

Even if you argue that John Romita's art was relatively simple, the fact is that he at least has a basic understanding of perspective and anatomy, unlike many so called "dynamic" artists of today. I don't care how action packed your art is, if your human characters' skulls look like they belong to a Grey with gigantism, we have a problem.

Yeah! Like Eric Larsen!!

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

haha


random_havoc probably loves Larsen