The Avengers Anyone else thinking of staying out of this forum until 2012?

Back in the days of the Iron Man, Captain America and Thor boards being low profile :csad:

The Iron Man 2 boards were kind of like this but I stuck it out. The Batman and Superman boards are always like this and I tend to avoid them like the plague accordingly.
 
I drop in the Superman forums from time to time to see if they're discussing something other than underpants. I often leave disappointed.
 
Sometimes they're fun. Like when people were going on about Amy Adams' "grotesque calves" :lmao:

Hopefully a couple posters will tire of posting the same exact thing every single day in these Avengers boards soon. Not naming any names, it's totes a secret :o
 
One day he's going to remove his mask and TheMayor will laugh at as all for falling prey to his clever ruse.
 
I had some thoughts on the situation that I wanted to express. I don't want to post them in the main thread as I know how that'll end up. I genuinely do hope that Alexei sees this post. I'm expecting to be compared to a child again, and told I'm in a clique again. That's cool.

Let me just get some real talk off my mind for a sec. I know that Alexei has expressed some uncertainty as to why others consider him a troll. I don't think for a second that that's genuine. I hope it's not, as it implies a complete lack of self awareness. The argument provided is that there are no Hype rules that are being broken, and that no derogatory names are being bandied about. That's all well and good, but that's not the point. Often it's not about what you say, but how you say it. Not about what you do, but how you hold yourself. Not about what you think, but how forceful you are with said opinions and how open you are to other points of view.

Let me briefly make a real world analogy that should be relevant to most. Say the main Avengers thread is a dinner party. There's a general atmosphere that is pleasant. People are excited, and the conversation takes on that general tone. The thread will get off topic, that's not the issue. There are other things to discuss, and the other people present perhaps provide points of view that you won't find elsewhere. That's healthy, and that's generally how individuals grow as people. Things will get heated, but people understand it's a detour and the ship will right itself. It's inevitable, and what everyone wants. People bring new guests and they provide new insights and new points of view, which is fantastic. That's the whole point of socializing, be it in person or online.

But then there's that one guest. You know the type. He breaks the china, complains that the food is taking too long. He's overly forceful and not accepting of other worldviews. Worst of all, he refuses to let the conversation guide itself back to a healthy place, as conversations are wont to do. The general atmosphere becomes unpleasant, people no longer enjoy themselves, and it's uncomfortable for everyone. And when he's informed of the faux pas, rather than any introspection or even simple respect, he plays the victim card. "You all are mean, you all judge me, you all hate my unpopular opinion and I'm not allowed to express myself." It's a very large and fairly obvious inability to gauge how one is coming off and an unwillingness to allow anyone else any say in the direction a conversation takes. Unpopular opinions are great, when they are fresh and talking points rather than tired and rehashed.

So it's not the thoughts that are being expressed, it's the atmosphere in which they're being presented. It's not that the opinions are unpopular, it's that they are perpetually being discussed without anything new to add and forced down everyone's throats. It's not that there's a "clique" that's being mean, it's that there are certain individuals who are doing everything in their power to suck the fun out of these boards for the dozens of other individuals who frequent them. It's a seemingly gargantuan inability to gauge a social atmosphere and enter it rather than attempting to force it into an unwanted and unnecessary direction.

Sorry for my rambling, just trying to put my thoughts together on the matter.
 
^Seconded and thirded

My favorite moment was when I used the phrase, "I move that..." and he jumped down my throat for trying to be a mod. Then he told me I wasn't his friend. It was the worst day of my life.
 
I had some thoughts on the situation that I wanted to express. I don't want to post them in the main thread as I know how that'll end up. I genuinely do hope that Alexei sees this post. I'm expecting to be compared to a child again, and told I'm in a clique again. That's cool.

Let me just get some real talk off my mind for a sec. I know that Alexei has expressed some uncertainty as to why others consider him a troll. I don't think for a second that that's genuine. I hope it's not, as it implies a complete lack of self awareness. The argument provided is that there are no Hype rules that are being broken, and that no derogatory names are being bandied about. That's all well and good, but that's not the point. Often it's not about what you say, but how you say it. Not about what you do, but how you hold yourself. Not about what you think, but how forceful you are with said opinions and how open you are to other points of view.

Let me briefly make a real world analogy that should be relevant to most. Say the main Avengers thread is a dinner party. There's a general atmosphere that is pleasant. People are excited, and the conversation takes on that general tone. The thread will get off topic, that's not the issue. There are other things to discuss, and the other people present perhaps provide points of view that you won't find elsewhere. That's healthy, and that's generally how individuals grow as people. Things will get heated, but people understand it's a detour and the ship will right itself. It's inevitable, and what everyone wants. People bring new guests and they provide new insights and new points of view, which is fantastic. That's the whole point of socializing, be it in person or online.

But then there's that one guest. You know the type. He breaks the china, complains that the food is taking too long. He's overly forceful and not accepting of other worldviews. Worst of all, he refuses to let the conversation guide itself back to a healthy place, as conversations are wont to do. The general atmosphere becomes unpleasant, people no longer enjoy themselves, and it's uncomfortable for everyone. And when he's informed of the faux pas, rather than any introspection or even simple respect, he plays the victim card. "You all are mean, you all judge me, you all hate my unpopular opinion and I'm not allowed to express myself." It's a very large and fairly obvious inability to gauge how one is coming off and an unwillingness to allow anyone else any say in the direction a conversation takes. Unpopular opinions are great, when they are fresh and talking points rather than tired and rehashed.

So it's not the thoughts that are being expressed, it's the atmosphere in which they're being presented. It's not that the opinions are unpopular, it's that they are perpetually being discussed without anything new to add and forced down everyone's throats. It's not that there's a "clique" that's being mean, it's that there are certain individuals who are doing everything in their power to suck the fun out of these boards for the dozens of other individuals who frequent them. It's a seemingly gargantuan inability to gauge a social atmosphere and enter it rather than attempting to force it into an unwanted and unnecessary direction.

Sorry for my rambling, just trying to put my thoughts together on the matter.

Excellent evaluation and presentation.
 
I'm not thinking of staying out of this forum till then, but I know of a few who I wish would stay out of this forum till then.:wow::oldrazz:
 
I drop in the Superman forums from time to time to see if they're discussing something other than underpants. I often leave disappointed.
How is the current conversation that is going on in The News and Speculation thread about Hulks Pants different from talking about Supermans underwear?
 
We already had that disccussion when the first pic came out. The new one wont last. :p
 
How is the current conversation that is going on in The News and Speculation thread about Hulks Pants different from talking about Supermans underwear?

It isn't different at all (other than one being about aesthetics and the other being about the notion that Marvel would put a naked Hulk on posters).
 
This is becoming entertaining! I think there should be some sort of forum where we talk our differences out. Maybe one day SHH will live in peace and harmony.
But please, PLEASE, no "Who would win in a <DC Character> V <Marvel Character>. I might just put a gun to my head.
 
DC vs. Marvel convos tend to pop up in review threads, I've noticed. The Avengers thread sometimes gets infected with TDK disease, but it clears up fairly quickly. We've only recently been plagued with "MARVEL CONTINUITY RUINZ MOVEEZ!" syndrome, and it is bogus. Do not like.
 
I think I'm officially cutting down on visiting the Avengers forum from now on. I'll maybe look occasionally at individual character threads, but I'll stay out of the Avengers news thread. The other threads for me will becoming increasingly less visited as time goes on. I already feel I've seen too much with all the Cleveland filming etc. I want things to be a surprise and not feel like I've already seen everything in stills and home made videos.
 
There's someone here named Alexei? That's my name
 
I'm dropping in less often because I felt like I was learning too much. There is something really cool about seeing something for the very first time while sitting in that theater seat with the smell of popcorn in my nose.
 

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