Anyone upset about Jolie as Fox?

[K.B.]

Personally I hate the casting of Jolie. Yeah I like her (when she weighs more then 90 lbs) and all but serisouly.....you telling me you COULDN'T find a hot athletic black girl at all in hollywood?!?

If I had to cast it here's my list of candidates in no order....

Rosario Dawson
Alicia Keys (check out Smokin' Aces)
Jadda Pinkett Smith
Vanessa L Williams

There's a few more but I cant think of them now but hell there's 4 right there off the top of my head.

I see the point of all this reverse racism stuff and I agree that it is. I believe that certain characters can be "cast black" and some should not. For example I have zero problem with Kingpin being played by MCD, to me that makes sense, or if they made a GL movie anddecided on using John Stewet as the main guy instead of Hal. Ok I can live with that. Now if they turned around and said Denzel is playing superman or batman, thats a different story. That would piss me off.

I remeber when they were making the Spawn movie and they said that, and yeah it was totally ******ed and stupid then as it is now. As soon as a suit says something like that about your comic which is a good majority of lead black characters, you should just instantly KNOW it's gonna end up being a crappy flick and get the hell out.

 

[terry78]

^Though to be honest...If Denzel in his younger days played Batman...it would be pretty far off the mark, but I don't doubt he would have given a great performance. He would have done Wayne suave and Batman fierce.

 

[DarkSuperman]

In the comic Fox was clearly halle berry it sucks that Jolie was cast. She's pale, anorexic looking, and as far from halle as you can get.

 

[KenK]

At the very least, they could have just hired a black actress. That would have been acceptable. It didn't have to be Halle.

 

[TheVileOne]

That's a good point. There are plenty of fine black actresses that could've played this role. Even an older Vivica A. Fox could've played this role.

 

[xisaacx]

I dont care about race, I dont even care if they got another non black girl to be the fox. I just care that it seems the main focus is gonna be ON angelina and less on wesley, although the movie is based on him, they just throw her in there why? TO sell the movie, which is bull****. Idk im just annoyed no supervillains, angelina in it, a shoot em up piece of garbage. I really dont care how hott angelina is, she shouldnt be in it, and she looks horrible in it


ever see alicia keyes in smokin aces? yeah THAT would have been a good fox

 

[KenK]

Yeah man, Alicia Keyes was buckin' on dudes somethin' fierce in Smokin' Aces. S**t I'd even take her partner in crime, Taraji Henson as the Fox over Angelina!! Don't get me wrong, I love Angelina, and if she's shootin' somebody, that's usually a bonus. But I would have appreciated more faithfullness to the character, at least from a visual standpoint.

 

[M.O.Steel]

Yeah, I see the resemblance. Though like I said, Jolie could basically play any comic female, as she has the bone structure of a Jim Lee drawing.

Taht's what the main character looks like? did the people that are making the movie even look at the comic book? what happened to that cool suit in the movie.

 

[K.B.]

Yeah I liked Taraji Henson and the idea of her as Fox, I just couldn't think of her name. Like I said there are a lot of people I would have cast if I was the one directing.

 

[nocomics]

of course.fox was black.dammit.and jolie is paper thin in the role,not fox like in the least.

/shrug theres been lot of movies where they changed the race of the characters. Sometimes it works out sometimes it don't.

 

[InvisibleWoman]

I'm not too bothered about the fact they've changed Fox's race - it happens alot in comic book movies - they made Kingpin black in Daredevil and made a latino Jessica Alba a blonde, white girl in Fantastic Four. I think it's important to choose who's best for the role and there's no way you can deny Angelina as an actress! I think she's amazing, I loved her in the trailer and there's no doubt that attaching her name to the movie will bring in ALOT more people to see it. Its all good.

If you don't like her AFTER seeing her performance - then say she's wrong for the part.

 

[bullets]

i agree with that . its an interpretation . im glad they chose jolie .

 

[K.B.]

I'm not too bothered about the fact they've changed Fox's race - it happens alot in comic book movies - they made Kingpin black in Daredevil and made a latino Jessica Alba a blonde, white girl in Fantastic Four. I think it's important to choose who's best for the role and there's no way you can deny Angelina as an actress! I think she's amazing, I loved her in the trailer and there's no doubt that attaching her name to the movie will bring in ALOT more people to see it. Its all good.

If you don't like her AFTER seeing her performance - then say she's wrong for the part.

But thats the problem. Some changes, like MCD for Kingpin, make sense. This one dosent. Like I and many others have said, "You couldn't find an athletic,big name, black actress for the part?".

Alba for FF and Jolie for Wanted is just bad decision making and changes for the wrong reasons.There is no doubt that Jolie is a good actress but if you think her perfomance is going to be some tour de force then your going to be in for a shock. Her role in WANTED is nothing more then a paycheck part.

 

[InvisibleWoman]

But thats the problem. Some changes, like MCD for Kingpin, make sense. This one dosent. Like I and many others have said, "You couldn't find an athletic,big name, black actress for the part?".

Alba for FF and Jolie for Wanted is just bad decision making and changes for the wrong reasons.There is no doubt that Jolie is a good actress but if you think her perfomance is going to be some tour de force then your going to be in for a shock. Her role in WANTED is nothing more then a paycheck part.

Yeah, but that's the thing about Jolie, even when she does a role simply for the paycheck (think Tomb Raider, Mr and Mrs Smith, Beowulf) I've been impressed with her performance. I think she's amazing, and she's probably my favourite thing about the trailer (except for the bit where James shatters the glass). She can be so subtle, like at the beginning of the trailer where she meets James' character and gives the smallest of smiles before delivering her line...she IS a tour de force whether acting because she's passionate about a role or because of the money. I can't wait to see her in this movie. But of course, as always, we're all allowed different opinions and I hear what you're saying. Lets just wait and see when the movie comes out. If Jolie gives anything less then a strong performance, I will be the first to say I was wrong.

 

[Savage]

I've never even read the comic and this entire production bugs me. With Kingpin it was a case of "Where are we going to find a guy that big, that muscular, who can actually act?" Fair enough. That makes sense. But when you ask yourself "Where are we going to find a young, fit, black actress? Is there such a thing?" and come back with Angelina Jolie, you just deserve the dunce cap.

 

[KenK]

I've never even read the comic and this entire production bugs me. With Kingpin it was a case of "Where are we going to find a guy that big, that muscular, who can actually act?" Fair enough. That makes sense. But when you ask yourself "Where are we going to find a young, fit, black actress? Is there such a thing?" and come back with Angelina Jolie, you just deserve the dunce cap.

Pretty much. Hell, it's time to see Kerry Washington fire a gun in a movie!

 

[Symbiotica]

I think it's important to choose who's best for the role and there's no way you can deny Angelina as an actress!

I can and do; she does not impress me. [Tomb Raider, anyone?] I put her on a par with halle berry, another one who is where she is because of how she looks, and not because of her all-but-nonexistant acting skills.

If you don't like her AFTER seeing her performance - then say she's wrong for the part.

No, I'm gonna say she's wrong for the part NOW, because I've actually read the GN in question, and telling me that we dont have one single ethnic actress in all of Hollywood who can fill the role properly, is going to make me laugh. So don't do that.

"OMG there was nobody else, we just haaaa-aaad to cast Jolie!" Bwa-hahaha, I am trying to stay out of this forum, but let me tell you it ain't easy: I haven't sensed the approach of this *BIG* of a cinematic train-wreck since the days when the CINO forums were up and running, and I find sardonic amusement enjoyable. That's just me.

 

[K.B.]

It's all these people with the "wait and see" approach and the loving whatever they are given attitude, their the reason we get things like the FF movies, Nolans very un-Joker Joker, etc etc....very sad.

 

[InvisibleWoman]

It's all these people with the "wait and see" approach and the loving whatever they are given attitude, their the reason we get things like the FF movies, Nolans very un-Joker Joker, etc etc....very sad.

Yeah, cos it's better being a "wait and see" person then someone who judges something they haven't seen! I hate people like that! It's annoying and frustrating that people decide to not like something even though they haven't seen it! I think making an informed decision is better cos' then you don't seem so miserable and bitter. Angelina Jolie is Fox, it's done, you might not be happy but you can't justifiably insult her performance until you've seen it. Otherwise, you sound nothing more then a hater with absolutely no ground to stand on. OK, so physically she's not perfect for the role, but you seriously can't start dissing her performance can you? What didn't you like about her in the trailer? I bet if they HAD cast a black, athletic type actress for the role, people would still be *****ing about it cos' no doubt they wouldn't have cast the RIGHT black, athletic actress for the role. There's no pleasing the people on these forums...it does my head in. *goes away for a few days cos' I can't be bothered to read all the hate I'm probably gonna get back cos of this*

 

[K.B.]

No, if they had cast a black actress we'd be *****ing about one thing less. Thats it. We'd still be mad that its Wanted ino.

 

[Symbiotica]

Yeah, cos it's better being a "wait and see" person then someone who judges something they haven't seen! I hate people like that! It's annoying and frustrating that people decide to not like something even though they haven't seen it!

You have not read the graphic novel in question, have you?

I'm going to use an analogy [although analogy is always dangerous]. People are angry about this movie for the following reason:

Let's say you were going to see a movie called "The Little Mermaid." Going in, you would have certain expectations about what you were going see, hey?

So you get into the theatre with your popcorn, you settle down and the film starts.

But wait... we open on a forest scene with Rosie O'Donnell skipping down a forest path, wearing a little red cape and a hood, and behind a tree you get a glimpse of Lil' Kim dressed up in a wolf costume, stalking Rosie from the underbrush.

"WTH?!" you would think. "Where's the ocean? Where's the undersea palace filled with beautiful mer-people? Where's the Sea Witch? Where's the handsome prince on a boat?! This looks like Little Red Riding Hood to me! And they cast ROSIE O'DONNELL as Little Red Riding Hood? Lil' Kim is a WOLF?!! What the....?!"

Studio: "Erm.... well, we needed to make some changes. We think Rosie fills the part of the mermaid to perfection, and all source material needs adaptation to get to the big screen. Hope you like what we've done! "



That is exactly how this film looks to everyone who has the least bit of regard for the source material. Are people ticked off? You'd better believe it, and with very good reason.

 

[Savage]

Wow. That is one damn good analogy.

 

[KenK]

Bottom line is, Jolie's casting is one of the many things off about this film. It's one thing to take a wait-and-see approach on things the Fantastic Four and The Dark Knight. For one, whatever flaws you might want to fling against FF, it's immediately recognizable as FF. In the case of The Dark Knight, fans at least have Batman Begins as precendent for having faith in Nolan, and be willing to see how his interpretation of the Joker turns out. I'm personally not too keen on it, but I'm not condemning the whole film just yet.

Wanted is different because as of right now, there's very little tying the film to the comic. The basic set-up is the same, but beyond that, there's nothing about it that's readily identifiable. The intricacies of the comic appear to be non-existent, looking at the trailer. Even if The Fraternity's purpose of preserving fate is revealed to be something more sinister, and thus in line with the comics, I think it's a bit of a copout.

 

[CorpusBlack]

Not crazy about Jolie in the film. Then again, I'm not really a fan of hers as is.

 

[Docker2.0]

Haven't really read Wanted but it amazes me how people will blow a gasket cause Kingpin and Nick Fury are played by black actors but when a white person plays a black one, it's "ok" or give it a chance?!