Anyone upset about Jolie as Fox?

[TheVileOne]

Haven't really read Wanted but it amazes me how people will blow a gasket cause Kingpin and Nick Fury are played by black actors but when a white person plays a black one, it's "ok" or give it a chance?!

The thread was started because the poster was at issue with the casting.

 

[terry78]

Also, more fanboys are aware of Nick Fury and Kingpin than they are about The Fox. It was just an indie cult book that Millar created because he felt like it. It has popularity, but not Marvel legend popularity.

 

[RockSP]

The thread was started because the poster was at issue with the casting.

Not exactly.

I was just curious as to the general fanboy consensus. I've seen the complaining about black actors in white roles but saw none in this instance going the other way. I wondered what people would have to say about that.

 

[Docker2.0]

Not exactly.

I was just curious at to the general fanboy consensus. I've seen the complaining about black actors in white roles but saw none in this instance going the other way. I wondered what people would have to say about that.

Thanks for the response. I really didn't know how to answer it any easier for the guy.

 

[K.B.]

How about WINO (which, ironically, you'd have to be if you actually want to see this garbage) is a crap film for many reasons, one of which is not casting a black woman where there clearly is a role MADE for her.

 

[TheVileOne]

That's racist.

 

[K.B.]

I thinks its a bit racist. Sure as hell wouldn't have happened on my watch, but then again if I had the reins we'd all be getting a literal page to screen adaptaion with only one change thoughout the whole thing.





(In the narration at the end instead of the line about "Even this comic you bought.." would be changed to "Even this movie.." to make it make sense. Read it yourself and picture it as a movie and let me know if you guys would have liked that change.)

 

[RDK]

but then again if I had the reins we'd all be getting a literal page to screen adaptaion with only one change thoughout the whole thing.

Anyone who thinks that Wanted could ever get a "literal" page-to-screen adaptation is deluding themselves. You, sir, are deluded. It will never, ever happen except in a fanboy's wildest dream.

 

[K.B.]

Your right..musta been my imagination when I saw that Sin City movie that was right from comic to screen...or that 300 movie I dreamt up.


Wonder what excuse you'll give those ones pal.

 

[TheVileOne]

300 made a lot of changes and additions. But most of what happened in the movie was in the book. The politics with the counsel and everything with the wife was fabricated for the movie.

There was probably some other stuff, but those things stick out the most in my mind.

I'm you could do a more faithful version of WANTED on film. Not 100% literally a translation of the graphic novel, but a lot closer than this upcoming turd that looks like a low-budget Matrix rip-off and an American remake of Day Watch.

 

[RDK]

Your right..musta been my imagination when I saw that Sin City movie that was right from comic to screen...or that 300 movie I dreamt up.


Wonder what excuse you'll give those ones pal.

Um, they're not "Wanted."

 

[Casius--J]

Haven't really read Wanted but it amazes me how people will blow a gasket cause Kingpin and Nick Fury are played by black actors but when a white person plays a black one, it's "ok" or give it a chance?!

well i'd like to think its because people are now used to race changes in comic book movies that now that there's another one its like oh ok then.

Angelina as fox is the least of this films flaws, but yes Fox was clearly based on halle berry but apparantly she wont do anymore comic book movies. They could've easily cast some1 who fit the bill a bit more but then again they could've followed the comic a bit more too.

 

[badgonegood]

Plus Hollywood is not that comfortable yet giving a white male a black love interest.

 

[Clown Prince]

IMO there arent alot of black beautiful actresses that can act in hollywood today that would be willing to do a graphic novel movie,in a role were not only they would have to be strong but also sexy and believable,besides Hally Berry(and she already bombed in Catwomen).So IMO getting Jolie(who is the manivestation of sexy)is just a giving also the gal can act and lets not forget that is the most important part

 

[shinlyle]

*looks at thread"

 

[xisaacx]

its not about a white actor playing a black roll its about

its just the fox has certain dialogue and acts in certain ways that would only be fitting for a black actress in my opinion

 

[Brian Braddock]

I dunno about anyone else but, for me, with casting these comic-book adaptions - it's all about finding the closest possible physical match in an actor/actress to the character that they are portraying;

You get that right - you've taken a step in the right direction imo.

Simple fact is that Jolie does not resemble Fox one iota. That much is obvious.

But then again, the movie 'Wanted' barely resembles the comicbook 'Wanted' anyways.

So who cares?

 

[p4poetic]

I'm not too bothered about the fact they've changed Fox's race - it happens alot in comic book movies - they made Kingpin black in Daredevil and made a latino Jessica Alba a blonde, white girl in Fantastic Four. I think it's important to choose who's best for the role and there's no way you can deny Angelina as an actress! I think she's amazing, I loved her in the trailer and there's no doubt that attaching her name to the movie will bring in ALOT more people to see it. Its all good.

If you don't like her AFTER seeing her performance - then say she's wrong for the part.

So its perfectly fine for more talented black actresses to get screwed over by casting a white woman in one of the few decent black roles there are in Hollywood. I see.

***Gina Torres***
Bianca Lawson
Aisha Tyler
Zoe Saldana
Kerry Washington
Sanaa Lathan
Vivica A. Fox
Naomie Harris
Thandie Newton
Melinda Williams
Joy Bryant
Gabrielle Union

^^^ all would of been great choices.

I have to agree here. I mean look at the fuss they had when Stan Lee made Batman black or the fuss they had when Lois was almost cast as a black woman.

Lois Lane was never 'almost cast as a black woman'. I know you're referring to Beyonce

So... basically when a white main character is cast as black

* Fanboys go up in arms
* They instantly assume the movie will horribly suck because of it
* They cry "PC! PC!" until their lungs get sore
* They don't really gain any more information at all on the subject and cannot be disuaded from their current point of view.


When a black main character is cast as white

* Fanboys don't really care that much
* They note other problems in the movie make this a non-issue
* They think how much they like the Actress and then REALLY don't care
* They pretend that casting white-to-black didn't really raise much of a stink, despite how loudly they decried such "atrocities."


W.T.H???

Regardless, Hollywood is completely clueless on blackness... Hollywood feels like Black headlined movies can't sell, so Will Smith has to do it five or six times before they relent, and then they say, "But it won't sell oversesas" and then after he does (Happyness) they say "Oh, but Will is the exception, no other black person could possibly do it, so we still won't let other blacks headline movies" and that, is complete illogical bull****.

What's worse... movies with plenty of main cast members who are black. Obviously that's a "black movie," and "only black people go to black movies" hollywood seems to feel... forget how many black people go to "White movies." I guess black people are just easier to please or something... you can just give them anything. So when Tyler Perry makes an all black movie that everyone loves Hollywood (and other myopic individuals) say "Oh, Tyler Perry's the exception, people still don't like to see black movies... it's just Tyler Perry movies, they would never go out to see OTHER black movies." Also completely illogical bullcrap. In the face of clear proof, a person unwilling to learn says: "Oh, that's just an exception, I refuse to change my perspective even when it has been clearly disproven."

Regardless, this topic makes me laugh. If Morgan Freeman's character had been named one of the leads in the GN, fans would be up in arms... but having Fox be a white woman? ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM.

Now, that is a hot mess no matter how you slice it.

Edit:
Oh, yeah... to answer the question:

NO, I do not have a problem.

* Just like I didn't have a problem with MCD as Kingpin
* Just like I didn't have a problem with Halle as Catwoman (despite the fact that it was a HORRIBLE movie)
* Just like I didn't have a problem with Organic Webshooters
* Just like I didn't have a problem with Hulk's Nanites Origin change
* Just like I didn't have a problem with "The Tumbler"


See the consistency? Yeah, I'm a jerk... but I'm a consistent jerk, at least.

Halle Berry wasn't playing Selina Kyle. She played a whole different character named Patience Phillips, who was also a 'Catwoman'. I don't really understand how so people use this as an example.

 

[Red Mask]

This movie was the closest Jolie fans will ever see her play Catwoman. So on that, it was good enough for me.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Good enough simply on the basic that it allowed you a sense of what she would be like as another character in another comicbook movie?

 

[Red Mask]

Good enough simply on the basic that it allowed you a sense of what she would be like as another character in another comicbook movie?

Yep. On a more faithful adaption Halle Berry is welcome to it.