Aqua - Discussion Thread(Spoilers)

Pickle-El said:
awwwwwwww....... :(

Welling HAS lost a lot from the looks of S3 and 4, there's no way he's equally as cut or big....


ps, from the looks of 'Aqua', he'd need the benefit of neoprone at Smallville's conclusion...:o


that's "Neoprene" smart guy, and I agree he doesnt look as big as he did last season. But he hardly looks small or "flabby", and if how he looked in "Spell" is any indication of his mass potential, than you'd be sorely mistaken....
 
The Incredible Hulk said:
that's "Neoprene" smart guy, and I agree he doesnt look as big as he did last season. But he hardly looks small or "flabby", and if how he looked in "Spell" is any indication of his mass potential, than you'd be sorely mistaken....

Big. Baby.
 
avidreader said:
Thorough as usual, but for the life of me I cannot remember Clark/Lois ever making inuendos about their future life together. You're not the only one that I've seen say this. Can you enlighten me?

She says she likes Arthur because he wants to save the world. That was actually a Superman reference.

In the comics she falls in love with Superman first before she realizes that he's really Clark in part just because of he's always saving people. I think she'll probably know Clark is Superman in the Smallville continuity should they ever go that far, but I guess we'll see.

I thought it interesting that Clark was surprised she thought that. I think he saw something new in her there...

Also, at the end she tells Clark that she wants to could find someone special like Arthur again someday and he says he can guarentee that she will.

Yeah, she will. When she meets and falls in love with Superman... Funny how he thought he could guarentee that.

I think there were others in the episode but I can't think of them right now...
 
HE'S THE KING FISH

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By DON KAPLAN


October 20, 2005 -- RALLY your undersea friends! Aquaman, the world's most misunderstood superhero, is suddenly a big fish in Hollywood.


As the King of Atlantis, Aquaman's superpowers add up to having the ability to talk to marine life, breath underwater, swim really fast and wear a scaly orange and green costume.

Tonight, he pays a visit to young Clark Kent on the WB's "Smallville" and has been at the heart of this season's edition of HBO's "Entourage." Also, like most of the DC come book characters, he is slated to be retooled over the next year as part of an ongoing story called "Infinite Crisis."

Along the way, the character is getting more, uh, depth.

"We like to call him the much maligned Aquaman," "Smallville" creator Alfred Gough told The Post yesterday. "He always seems to get a bad rap for some reason."

When Aquaman initially came up as a possible guest star at the "Smallville" writers meeting, "at first we laughed," Gough says. But the show's producers figured out a way to work Aquaman into the series in order to teach Clark Kent an important life lesson and set the stage for their later working relationship as members of the Justice League - a team of DC's most popular superheroes, chronicled in comic books for decades and more recently on the Cartoon Network show.



On "Smallville," Aquaman is a marine biology student and environmental activist from the University of Miami (the school's colors are, ahem, orange and green), who travels to Kansas to deal with Lex Luthor, who is testing a new sonar weapon in a lake near Smallville.

"The message he has for Clark Kent is that he should think globally, not locally," Gough says. "He shows Clark that he needs to wake up and realize that there's a bigger world out there than just Smallville and Metropolis and you have to use your powers to stop people from doing bad things."

"Entourage" - a show about a fictional young movie star named Vincent Chase and his friends - has Chase playing the watery hero in what is supposed to a big budget "Aquaman" film by "Titanic" moviemaker James Cameron.

For a long time, Aquaman as a superhero has been seen as kind of a joke among Hollywood insiders and many comic fanatics, which is likely the reason why the comedy writers behind "Entourage" chose him as the centerpiece of the show this season.

Aquaman first appeared in DC's "More Fun Comics" in 1941, and has had several variations on his origin story. One from the 1960s tells of how his father was a lighthouse keeper and his mother was a mermaid.

A more complex and more widely accepted story tells of Aquaman being born as the crown prince of Atlantis who was abandoned by his parents because of his blond hair, which was seen by his people as a curse. At first he was raised by a dolphin and then by a lighthouse keeper who gave him his own name, Arthur Curry.

Most casual viewers, however, remember Aquaman from the 1970s cartoon "Superfriends," in which he rode around on a seahorse, called whales with telepathy and basically stood around, useless, on dry land.

But DC revamped the character later, making him a Conan-esque hero who commanded an army and sported a hook for a hand. That was the makeover used by Cartoon Network's "Justice League," which made him less a hero than a loose cannon with a bad attitude.

Aquaman's sudden and unlikely prominence has not gone unnoticed.

"Yes, I've noticed the sudden resurgence," says Jay Franco, a die-hard comic book fan and editor for the Science Fiction Book Club, a division of the Book of the Month Club. "I'm not sure what is on the horizon for this superhero from the sea, but he is definitely worth keeping an eye on."
 
triplet said:

Triplet, I agree with most of the stuff /points from your review , exsept Erica's Preformance as Lois Lane & The Forshadowing of Lois & Clark (Future romance).

I thought Erica preformance Lois Lane was good and entertaining as usually.

And The Lois & Clark forshadowing was well done. It shows Clark's feelings for Lois as just a friend is changing, he starting to fall for Lois.
 
Meh... I thought her lack of chemistry with Ritchson was her biggest problem and that's not really her fault.

I think either you have chemistry with another as an actor or you don't. It's not something you can act your way out of.

I just think the foreshadowing is getting old. We know they're soul mates and that they're destined to be together, but do we need to be reminded of that every stinking week?
 
Kal-El 8 said:
And The Lois & Clark foreshadowing was well done. It shows Clark's feelings for Lois as just a friend is changing, he starting to fall for Lois.
I have to agree. There's something going on there. Even though Clark wants to "smother Lois with a pillow" (LOL!!!), *something* is starting to spark. It's extremely low key, but that end dialog in Aqua was quite revealing, and I really, really liked it. They can hit me over the head with all the foreshadowing they want; it's a HUGE part of my enjoyment of the show. Clark IS Superman, even if people don't call him that yet. Being reminded of his future gives me a big warm and fuzzy each and every episode.
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triplet said:
I just think the foreshadowing is getting old. We know they're soul mates and that they're destined to be together, but do we need to be reminded of that every stinking week?

I prefer the forshadowing alot more than the Clana crap I've had to watch for the past fricking four years.
 
Kal-El 8 said:
I prefer the forshadowing alot more than the Clana crap I've had to watch for the past fricking four years.

with pointless Clois crap :confused:
 
AgentPat said:
I have to agree. There's something going on there. Even though Clark wants to "smother Lois with a pillow" (LOL!!!), *something* is starting to spark. It's extremely low key, but that end dialog in Aqua was quite revealing, and I really, really liked it. They can hit me over the head with all the foreshadowing they want; it's a HUGE part of my enjoyment of the show. Clark IS Superman, even if people don't call him that yet. Being reminded of his future gives me a big warm and fuzzy each and every episode.
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While I appreciate your viewpoint, I think they need to use a lighter touch.

The references and allusions can be fun, I loved the Entourage and JLA references and some of the others from the episode, but they're sometimes laid on too thickly...
 
Honestly, I think AC was pretty well done... the "bro" thing felt a BIT pushed, but in the end it made sense... I wanted a really good song like at the end of "Run" but it didn't happen... instead I got "Junior Lifeguard Association" which made me pause, talked a screaming lap around the room and hear it again before I could go on...

Also, the action in the climax was sort of skipped over and I didn't like that, I wanted to see something, but I suppose Lex's POV was good storywise... and, imho, they overdid the orange and green, they could've kept that a bit more downkey, but I suppose clark is always in his colors, so go figure...

The end scene... the last line it didn't sit quite welll with me... it was good foreshadowing, but... "I promise you'll find someone even more special" ???? Who says that? Who can promise that? are you serious? It just sounded so rediculous to me... I did like the pose and the zoom out... and Lois' body is smokin...
 
triplet said:
While I appreciate your viewpoint, I think they need to use a lighter touch.
S'kay. Dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks. I'm cool with that. :)

The references and allusions can be fun, I loved the Entourage and JLA references and some of the others from the episode, but they're sometimes laid on too thickly...
It's interesting 'cause UseNet posters, many of whom aren't hardcore Superman fans, miss a lot of the things we see as being sledgehammer overt. If looked at from the POV that most viewers don't know the mythos as well as we do, it can be argued that that kind of heavy handedness is necessary for the average viewer. I sometimes find myself explaining the things that have me off the couch cheering to my husband 'cause he isn't a Superman fan per se. I gauge a lot of what might be considered "general audience" appreciation off of what HE catches and doesn't. For example, he didn't even recognize Marsters from his brief appearance in Arrival. If I hadn't said THAT's the guy who came out of the ship, hubby would still be thinking Fine was just one of Clark's college professors.
 
AgentPat said:
S'kay. Dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks. I'm cool with that. :)

It's interesting 'cause UseNet posters, many of whom aren't hardcore Superman fans, miss a lot of the things we see as being sledgehammer overt. If looked at from the POV that most viewers don't know the mythos as well as we do, it can be argued that that kind of heavy handedness is necessary for the average viewer. I sometimes find myself explaining the things that have me off the couch cheering to my husband 'cause he isn't a Superman fan per se. I gauge a lot of what might be considered "general audience" appreciation off of what HE catches and doesn't. For example, he didn't even recognize Marsters from his brief appearance in Arrival. If I hadn't said THAT's the guy who came out of the ship, hubby would still be thinking Fine was just one of Clark's college professors.

You have a point... The sledge hammers probably need to come out for most people to get those references.

I guess it's probably not going to change, then is it?

Oh, well.

I'll try not to groan too loudly.. ;) :D
 
triplet said:
While I appreciate your viewpoint, I think they need to use a lighter touch.

The references and allusions can be fun, I loved the Entourage and JLA references and some of the others from the episode, but they're sometimes laid on too thickly...
That was the first foreshadowing that wasn't said as a joke, it was actually a very sweet scene, and made me really see him as the people they'll become one day, it was a nice touch, if not subtle, but its hard to be subtle when its a show about an iconic comic book hero.
 
mellyM said:
That was the first foreshadowing that wasn't said as a joke, it was actually a very sweet scene, and made me really see him as the people they'll become one day, it was a nice touch, if not subtle, but its hard to be subtle when its a show about an iconic comic book hero.

Well, I still thought it looked more awkward than sweet to me, but I think I'm outnumbered in thinking that...

:shrug:
 
triplet said:
Well, I still thought it looked more awkward than sweet to me, but I think I'm outnumbered in thinking that...

:shrug:

It's okay. You have a different perspective......I didn't even get to see the scene. My network went black at that moment. I could hear it, but couldn't see it. :(

So what I'm saying is I can't give an opinion either way. You do see things from a former actors perspective though so maybe that's why it felt awkward to you.
 
hehe, I missed the last five minutes, my family came home from roller skating and I could not hear a thing.
 
The guy that played Aquaman had more chin then Jay Leno! :)

I don't think we should jump the gun about Clark and Lois just yet. He cares about her just like he would care about Pete or Chloe.
What I totally hatye about this show is that... all of the sudden, these kids go to collegge! No sats, no acceptance letters, no nothing basically! Instead of just showing up in high school, now they're just showing up in collegge. I understand this isn't a show about collegge life, but come on now... just one stinking drop of realism in this giant epic... something... definetly wouldn't hurt.
 
i think aquaman had his hands a little low on lois when he was doing cpr on her...he was only on her lower boob...i think it's supposed to be higher up (no perverted jokes intended)

haha but other than that, it was a cool episode...his surfer talk kinda bugged me...but o well, we need more lana =P
 
I just realized, someone else may have, but the first ep of the season still took place on the day/day after graduation, so from the first ep to this one they started college. They're missing three months in there, I know they do when the season wraps, but how many times has it happened in season. I can't think of any shows that have.
 
I think there was supposed to be a larger portion of time when Clark was Mortal then just 2 episodes worth of time.
 
LadyVader said:
What I totally hate about this show is that... all of the sudden, these kids go to college! No sats, no acceptance letters, no nothing basically! Instead of just showing up in high school, now they're just showing up in college. I understand this isn't a show about college life, but come on now... just one stinking drop of realism in this giant epic... something... definitely wouldn't hurt.
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They spent the better part of last season talking about college. Various episode dealt in depth with graduating high school, GPAs and football scholarships, whether or not they were going to live on campus, which colleges they were interested in, AND of course the application process. Some of the dialog wasn't even necessary to the main plots of the episodes, but it was done to gear up the audience for the 5th season.

punishermax said:
I just realized, someone else may have, but the first ep of the season still took place on the day/day after graduation, so from the first ep to this one they started college. They're missing three months in there, I know they do when the season wraps, but how many times has it happened in season. I can't think of any shows that have.
Arrival took place immediately after the events of Commencement (May). It was established in the dialog that Mortal was WEEKS later (June sometime?) Hidden was weeks after that since the Kent house was mostly repaired (July/August?) And Aqua takes place just as they're starting college (August/Sept.)

darkzombiemutt said:
I think there was supposed to be a larger portion of time when Clark was Mortal then just 2 episodes worth of time.
In show time, he was human for the better part of the summer. Three months, perhaps? I wouldn't have wanted them to stretch it out more than that. I know Clark's a hero with or without superpowers, but three months is long enough for him to learn that hammers are blunt objects, bed posts fit nicely between toes, and bullets move re-heeeely fast. I'm thinking that particular learning process had served its purpose in the greater scheme of his education. :D
 

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