At the Mountains of Madness - Guillermo Del Toro's Next Project! - Part 1

[Joe Von Zombie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=17tj18qpJf0 documentary on Lovecraft featuring Del Toro, Carpenter , Gordon and more.

 

[Piper Maru]

Lovecraft did reuse a lot of the same words, but the mythology that he created is truly extraordinary.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

The ending is just the best part, and yeah, The Thing heavily borrowed from ATMOM.

The creepiest part for me without a doubt is this:

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McTighe sits at the radio, surrounded by the ship's officers.
Dyer listens attentively.

MCTIGHE
...... Come in Miskatonic. Calling Miskatonic. This is research vessel Arkham, do you read?
We need assistance....... present position unknown.......

Indeed, SOMETHING can be heard, but it's faint.

MCTIGHE (CONT'D)
Hear that, sir? A voice ! A voice ! I can boost it, just give me a minute.

Suddenly, a clear VOICE, breaks through ! The men eagerly close in.

RADIO VOICE
..... Come in Miskatonic. Calling Miskatonic. This is research vessel Arkham, do you read?
We need assistance....... present position unknown.......

The VOICE is inhuman - hissing as if in mockery. The static becomes a wheezing cackle. As it dies away, the men stare at one another, at a loss for words.

The whole thing just oozes of terror & evil. There's also that great plot point of

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Lake knowing that Dyer's wife died in childbirth along with his kid & not telling him to keep his head in the game.

The opening is just great as well & yeah the ending is chilling, the whole thing is just chilling, creepy.

It would look absolutely spectacular on screen. Not sure about Cruise as the lead though, I love him but I think it'd be better to have a lesser known actor in the lead, although he was probably set because they'd need a big actor maybe.

 

[chamber-music]

Can he lose the ridiculous swagger when he walks?

He does that Manchester swagger Oasis walk which a bunch people from the 90's thought was cool for some reason.

 

[Naked Shia]

Del Toro is the perfect fit to adapt Lovecraft's mythology. The Mountain of madness is not my favorite story, but it's really great, and I'm sure it could look gorgeous.

 

[Evil Twin]

The irony here is that "Who Goes There" is a knock off of "At the Mountains of Madness"

While it's obvious that "Who Goes There" was written in response to "At the Mountains of Madness", there's enough spin on it that it stands on its own. And, John Campbell and Lovecraft couldn't be farther apart in philosophy or style. I'm sure Campbell believed that his version was the story "done right".

It's as much a knockoff as Lovecraft was knocking off Poe's Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

For Charlie's walk, I'm pretty sure it's his normal walk actually, so yeah.

 

[The Endless]

I only really noticed it in Green Street and at the start of Pacific Rim. It kinda fit the characters he was playing.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

While it's obvious that "Who Goes There" was written in response to "At the Mountains of Madness", there's enough spin on it that it stands on its own. And, John Campbell and Lovecraft couldn't be farther apart in philosophy or style. I'm sure Campbell believed that his version was the story "done right".

It's as much a knockoff as Lovecraft was knocking off Poe's Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym.

Fair enough.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

I only really noticed it in Green Street and at the start of Pacific Rim. It kinda fit the characters he was playing.

It's just his normal walk, it's the same thing in Sons Of Anarchy.

 

[Doctor Jones]

God... this movie still needs to happen. Ever since I read the script like four years ago I've been wanting this. Hopefully with Legendary, this can be made possible again.

Just think. A big budget R rated sci fi horror film. That's untreaded territory right there. It's risky as hell, but it's totally worth it. But if done under Del Toro, it can be something we've never seen before.

 

[Piper Maru]

I really like the whole space/time anomaly angle, it makes everything so much more unsettling.

 

[Lord]

Had Del Toro Directed The Hobbit like he was originaly supposed to, i'm sure he would be now getting to Develop his passion projects like this one much more easily, as it is, Studios will have a harder time accepting him, he realy needs a true hit.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

The crazy thing is that you don't need 150 million to make the story in the Novella work. Cut the action and the let the source material do its job.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Ah, you still need a decent budget, 100 million should do it, it's not even about the action, it's about probably tons of CG even if they shot in Antarctica, there would be the whole

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city

tons of make-up & CG augments for the you know what.

This is such a highly visual movie. And don't use the novella story to state that the movie doesn't need a big budget, read the actual script.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Ah, you still need a decent budget, 100 million should do it, it's not even about the action, it's about probably tons of CG even if they shot in Antarctica, there would be the whole

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city

tons of make-up & CG augments for the you know what.

This is such a highly visual movie. And don't use the novella story to state that the movie doesn't need a big budget, read the actual script.

I read the script, He's going to have to go back to the drawing board with it.The more I think about it, he needs [BLACKOUT]to cut back on the action and violence remove the connections to the Call of Cthulhu[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Hum, really? So, basically, remove a lot of the good stuff is what you're suggesting. Cut back on the violence & action? There's not even that much action in it anyway.

 

[Figs]

I read the script, He's going to have to go back to the drawing board with it.The more I think about it, he needs [BLACKOUT]to cut back on the action and violence remove the connections to the Call of Cthulhu[/BLACKOUT]

The only action I didn't like was

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all the stuff on the boat after they leave the city. Just felt forced for the audience members who haven't read any Lovecraft stories. I'm not just talking about Cthulu either.

Then again, it's been quite some time since I last read At the Mountains of Madness. Maybe that was in the story but I don't think it was. To be honest I also didn't care for the

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Cthulhu connection. I definitely remember something large coming over the mountains at them at the end of the story but it wasn't Cthulhu.

I like the story The Call of Cthulhu but I find Cthulhu to be a bit overrated. It seems like casual Lovecraft fans are the ones who latch onto him. He's a pretty cool monster/deity but there is so much more to Lovecraft than one really short story.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Hum, really? So, basically, remove a lot of the good stuff is what you're suggesting. Cut back on the violence & action? There's not even that much action in it anyway.

There isn't that much violence in the actual novella. The dissection sequence is as gory as it gets.

The only action I didn't like was

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all the stuff on the boat after they leave the city. Just felt forced for the audience members who haven't read any Lovecraft stories. I'm not just talking about Cthulu either.

Then again, it's been quite some time since I last read At the Mountains of Madness. Maybe that was in the story but I don't think it was. To be honest I also didn't care for the

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Cthulhu connection. I definitely remember something large coming over the mountains at them at the end of the story but it wasn't Cthulhu.

I like the story The Call of Cthulhu but I find Cthulhu to be a bit overrated. It seems like casual Lovecraft fans are the ones who latch onto him. He's a pretty cool monster/deity but there is so much more to Lovecraft than one really short story.

The script was written for those "casual" fans. [BLACKOUT]There isn't even a proper setup for Cthulhu to even be involved in the script. It an issue with Lovecraft adaptations. I just watched the 2007 film " Cthulhu" which is adaptation of "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" with Cthulhu. The Dark Corners of the Earth video game is basically the same thing.[/BLACKOUT]

I enjoyed the script for the most part, it just needs to be reworked.

 

[Figs]

The script was written for those "casual" fans. [BLACKOUT]There isn't even a proper setup for Cthulhu to even be involved in the script. It an issue with Lovecraft adaptations. I just watched the 2007 film " Cthulhu" which is adaptation of "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" with Cthulhu. The Dark Corners of the Earth video game is basically the same thing.[/BLACKOUT]

I enjoyed the script for the most part, it just needs to be reworked.

I realize it's written for the casual fans, that's why that character is in it of course. How was the

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"Cthulhu" game?

I've played The Dark Corners of the Earth and aside from some bugs here and there I really enjoyed it.

 

[Piper Maru]

I'm not a "causal" fan, and I'm all for Cthulhu being in the movie.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

I realize it's written for the casual fans, that's why that character is in it of course. How was the

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"Cthulhu" game?

I've played The Dark Corners of the Earth and aside from some bugs here and there I really enjoyed it.

If you've played Dark Corners, there's no reason to watch it essentially

 

[NosfeRomas]

I am a hardcore Lovecraft fan and although i would love to see Cthulhu in a movie, puting him in At the Mountains of Madness just because he is more popular with the general audience more than any other Great Old One it's a meh idea for me. Have a reference, sure, do that, but do not change the Soggoth with little cthulhus or just Cthulhu imagery all over the place.

 

[Figs]

If you've played Dark Corners, there's no reason to watch it essentially

Thanks for saving me some time!

 

[GremlinZilla89]

The talk of this being PG-13 don't bother me at all. Lovecraft was never overtly violent or gory. And "Madness" does not need an R at all to capture the tone of the story imo.