Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 1

[Flemm]

I really like the idea of Hank Pym playing a key role in turning the tide.

It just seems like a cool nod to him being a founding member of the team in the comics.

So, in addition to Tony being a key factor, I'm thinking that Pym will play a hand in it, as well as Fury, who obviously has some sort of contingency plan.

I guess we might get a look at one part of that in the Ant-Man sequel, and the other part in Captain Marvel.

 

[Timebomb]

Things I can't wait to see and will hope come true.

Hulk "smash" moment
Captain America back in the red white and blue with his shield.
Captain Marvel
Tony in an alien tech iron man suit (thanks Krypton)

 

[Tg11]

Fury always has a Plan B contingency hence Captain Marvel coming into play since it is the next film in the MCU. Pym playing a hand would explain how Scott and Hope come into play in Avengers 4. With Tony though I mean he will probably be the deciding factor if anything.

 

[Flemm]

One thing that really stands out to me about this movie is that they did actually delay having some sort of reconciliation between Tony and Steve.

There was some discussion of that prior to the movie's release. We thought that there might be a scene prior to Tony leaving for Titan, but it doesn't happen.

So that's another interesting thing. Healing that rift has to be a big part of A4.

 

[Tg11]

Yeah I know right because I think they want the reunion or reconciliation with these 2 to be more emotional hence why they are holding off on it

 

[Flemm]

Well, if this movie shows us the scenario in which things go wrong, and the heroes fail, then the Avengers disassembling in Civil War stands out as one of the main things that led to their downfall.

Hence why waiting for A4 makes sense.

 

[Tg11]

I just love the time travel aspect...giving it a Back to the Future-Terminator type paradox

 

[honestbharani]

"Thanos Will Return."

While funny, that right there confirms the story is not over. You just have to wait a year for more. It does it better than Deathly Hallows Part 1 or Mockingjay Part 1, but after sleeping on it, I do see it still somewhat suffering from that same "first half of a story" syndrome.

Nope. A character returning for another movie does not ever mean the story of that particular movie was not over. Its a really silly way of looking at something.

 

[honestbharani]

Ah, but in winning, he loses, because apparently he cared about Gamora...sort of.

Nah.... Its a choice he made. A sacrifice to get him the ultimate bigger win. And look, even in real life, most people have to sacrifice something in order to achieve something else. I just dunno how it takes away anything at all.

Because we're flat out told that it's not the ending (Dr. Strange basically tells us he's playing the long game).

Also the post-credit basically says "yeah this isn't over, help is coming and the fights just started."

It was blatantly "Part 1" despite Marvel's claims to the contrary.

Nah.. again, the plot of this movie was about Thanos trying to get all the gems and doing the snap and all of that is resolved by the end of that movie. But because the MacGuffin can alter time and reality among other things, there are doors open to change stuff in the next movie. Does not mean this movie's story did not end in this movie. It did.

 

[Flemm]

Nah.. again, the plot of this movie was about Thanos trying to get all the gems and doing the snap and all of that is resolved by the end of that movie.

Well, I think that the point about the movie being essentially Part 1 is true to an extent.

We know that it was tentatively conceived that way, though I don't know how much of the story structure evolved since that time.

As I noted earlier, this movie has more of the big moments and cool stuff from the actual Infinity Gauntlet comic than I would have expected, alongside the Infinity Quest-type material.

So, I'm not sure. The concept for certain aspects of the story may have changed in development, along with the title.

Having said that, I also think that the point about the narrative being "incomplete" is being presented as a little more cut and dry than it really is.

I agree with the point above, for example, that the potential for a continuation, or teasing future stories, or whatever, doesn't necessarily makes this movie incomplete in some fundamental way.

 

[kvz5]

What’s the consensus with this: Did Strange tell Stark (off screen) what he needs to do for them to win or will it be up to Stark to figure it out?

 

[Tg11]

What’s the consensus with this: Did Strange tell Stark (off screen) what he needs to do for them to win or will it be up to Stark to figure it out?

Oh I think they left that ambiguous for all of us to figure out or speculate

 

[kvz5]

Oh I think they left that ambiguous for all of us to figure out or speculate

Yeah I never even considered that he did and thought it was a bit dumb considering Strange knows that he’ll be wiped out and time might be wasted figuring out what to do but I’ve seen some theorizing that he did based on certain reactions when they were “dying” and it kinda made sense.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

What’s the consensus with this: Did Strange tell Stark (off screen) what he needs to do for them to win or will it be up to Stark to figure it out?

I think given the opponent that Strange was playing his cards close to his chest.

 

[marty344]

I loved the movie. There were lots of funny moments, especially from the Gaurdians cew. Drax is very funny!
But the ending was so incredibly sad. Can someone PLEASE explain the ending to me. I dont believe the characters at the end died. My thoery is they went to another planet where souls are kept, and will be brought back to life by someone that has the power and ability to use the infinity stones for good instead of evil - Captain Marvel perhaps??

If the infinity stones can be used for evil, and destroy planets, surely they can also be used for good, and to bring back all those that were 'disappeared' by it back.

Will the characters that disappeared at the end of the movie (including nearly all the Gaurdians crew!) be back in Avengers 4?

Just from a financial point of view, did the makers think the ending through? Do they not realize that movies such as Black Panther (second highest grossing movie of all time) cannot have sequals until they are brought back?

Why did the makers of he film give such a sad ending?

 

[marty344]

By the way, did anyone else find it odd, that there didnt seem to be a plan amongst the Avengers (Thor especially when he was with the Avengers on earth) as to how to protect the infinity stones from anyone that would want to yield thier power?

It seemed like Doctor Strange and Iron man were winging it, in terms of a plan. By the way, shouldnt Doctor Strange have gone back to his home to better protect his infinity stone?

Why did Strange just give up one of the last (besides Vision's) infinity stones so easily without putting up a fight?? Why didnt he teleport to somewhere else, even back to earth to get away from Thanos?

And didnt Strange say earlier on to Stark, that id he had to he wouldnt let Stark get in the way of him protecting the Stone? And yet at the end, he does the complete opposite.

 

[Tony Stark]

They might be trapped in the soul stone and that might be what the little girl Gamora is at the end of the film talking about what it cost Thanos. But yes they are "dead".

In the comics, Thanos has Nebula trapped an in some zombie like state (this is referenced by Nebula being kidnapped an disassembled and tortured), there is a point where she steals the gauntlet and restores herself and undoes every thing Thanos did. Since Nebula is still alive, I think something similar may happen, however, the Infinity Gauntlet looks heavily damaged from having used it, perhaps Stormbreaker interfered with it in some way damaging it.

I think that Loki and Heimdall are the only ones for sure dead. I believe all the people that turned to dust will be back, and I think it's very likely Gamora and Vision will be back.

I think someone will sacrifice themselves to get Gamora back, perhaps even Thanos. Vision I think will come back because he is playing the Adam Warlock role in the movies, and Adam Warlock was resurrected after he was killed by Thanos for taking the soul stone, in the Infinity Gauntlet comic. Also there's a line from Bruce about there so much to Vision aside from the mind stone, so I think they'll be able to resurrect him with Shuri's help.

 

[Tg11]

Yeah no coming back for Loki or Heimdall even though Valkyrie, Korg and Miek would have and could have added more to this Battle

 

[Spiderine]

What’s the consensus with this: Did Strange tell Stark (off screen) what he needs to do for them to win or will it be up to Stark to figure it out?

It felt like a clue when Thanos told Stark not only that he knew him but that Stark had been cursed with some sort of knowledge. Don't know why but that really stuck out to me.

 

[C. Lee]

Why did Strange just give up one of the last (besides Vision's) infinity stones so easily without putting up a fight?? Why didnt he teleport to somewhere else, even back to earth to get away from Thanos?

And didnt Strange say earlier on to Stark, that id he had to he wouldnt let Stark get in the way of him protecting the Stone? And yet at the end, he does the complete opposite.

Dr. Strange used his powers to examine 14 million different outcomes of various ways they could fight him....and he said he found only one that worked. So if he then reversed his statement that he would let Stark die to protect the stone it has to mean that the one scenario that worked needed Stark alive.

 

[Tg11]

It felt like a clue when Thanos told Stark not only that he knew him but that Stark had been cursed with some sort of knowledge. Don't know why but that really stuck out to me.

Yeah it did for me too which makes me wonder if Tony knows more than he realizes if he himself could ultimately be the key to stopping Thanos

 

[Spiderine]

Yeah no coming back for Loki or Heimdall even though Valkyrie, Korg and Miek would have and could have added more to this Battle

Thanos telling the audience there would be no more resurrections for Loki felt like a messege from the writers. I really think he is done this time.

 

[Tg11]

Well the way he went out was pretty gruesome to say the least

 

[Flemm]

What’s the consensus with this: Did Strange tell Stark (off screen) what he needs to do for them to win or will it be up to Stark to figure it out?

I think that Strange was knowingly trying to set the table, but without Tony being involved.

I will have to rewatch the scene, to be sure, but it seems to me that there are actually three plans. Tony's plan, Starlord's plan (which he says is the one that was chosen and executed by the group).

And, finally, in the background, Strange's plan, which he doesn't share with the rest of the group, but which involves saving Tony by trading the stone, leading to the "endgame."

 

[Timebomb]

Who does everyone think will also be the bad in A4? I guess it could just be Thanos but we had the Black Order in this. Maybe the Skrulls?