Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 1

[squeekness]

anyone else think Rocket IS gonna end up stealing the winter soldiers new arm in the long run....LOL

That would be hilarious.

 

[Napoli]

It went to dust with Bucky. The gun did fall though so Rocket can get that and add some more tech to it.

hence "the long run". we know they are all coming back

 

[Venom'sDad]

I don't know if this was already mentioned but I just saw the movie again and the one thing that bothered me the first time finally made sense. When Thanos punched Cap in the head I was certain he was dead. But then later Steve is walking around like everything is fine. We're talking Thanos here - the guy who can take down the Hulk with a chop to the throat or Iron Man with his bare hand. How was Captain America's skull not completely crushed - super soldier formula or not? He wasn't even wearing his usual helmet.

I simply find it not much different than Black Widow, a female human, with no enhanced abilities at all, fighting & taking punches from Prox...BW was simply overly-amped, to be able to handle such brutal force from a being much more stronger, faster, agile and endurance, than the puny female human...the same can be said of Cap catching Prox's spear. The Black Order, minus Max was watered down to fit the story or certain human characters was amped for the same reason...to fit the story.

What’s the consensus with this: Did Strange tell Stark (off screen) what he needs to do for them to win or will it be up to Stark to figure it out?

Stephen cryptically told Tony, "it the only way." Tony knows there is only "ONE Path to Victory." If he didn't understand Stephen at that moment, he will later, at some point, moving forward & reflecting on the events that has happened.

More importantly... The story as written, the actual flow of events in this film don't allow for Ant-Man to be there. I mean...The attack happens in NYC. It's a matter of minutes. Tony has just met Strange and Ant-Man is on the other side of the continent. There's no way to get him involved in the first place with Tony, Peter and the doc so it's as they say, a moot point.

I disagree...Stephen or Wong could have easily, in an instant portal to Scott & back, if the writers wanted to....there was obviously, other reason why the character Antman was to take a back seat to this particular film.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Dr. Strange I doubt knew who Ant-Man was and I doubt he was the first guy Tony would have thought of if he recommended it. Also would have required knowing where he was at the time, which would have taken time to confirm.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Dr. Strange I doubt knew who Ant-Man was and I doubt he was the first guy Tony would have thought of if he recommended it.

Tony knows him....and Stephen homes in on people...how did he know Tony was at the Park with Pepper...cause he homed in on Tony. Locating Scott is not hard, when it's known he's on house arrest.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Tony knows him....and Stephen homes in on people...how did he know Tony was at the Park with Pepper...cause he homed in on Tony. Locating Scott is not hard, when it's known he's on house arrest.

But again, Tony dealt with Scott 1 time. I highly doubt he would have sought him out. I think he honestly would have thought of Clint first. Heck, even when he was in the Raft, he said "Who are you?" to Ant-Man. Maybe Steve would have thought of him, but I can see Tony not even thinking about it.

 

[Venom'sDad]

But again, Tony dealt with Scott 1 time. I highly doubt he would have sought him out. I think he honestly would have thought of Clint first. Heck, even when he was in the Raft, he said "Who are you?" to Ant-Man. Maybe Steve would have thought of him, but I can see Tony not even thinking about it.

Ant Man has a unique ability...and you think he would consider Hawkeye over him, in this grave revelation about Thanos. Doubt it. Tony would seek any & all help needed realistically. The only people he is very hesitant to call was Steve & Bucky....in that was evident in Steve case.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Ant Man has a unique ability...and you think he would consider Hawkeye over him, in this grave revelation about Thanos. Doubt it. Tony would seek any & all help needed realistically. The only people he is very hesitant to call was Steve & Bucky....in that was evident in Steve case.

The crisis literally just happened and Tony isn't thinking rationally enough to make a cataloged list of every superhero who ever existed. We fans can say "Hey, why didn't they call guy X" because we're not in iron suits fighting gods with stones that can kill us and can think of back logged history from things we marathoned last week. Tony Stark is a guy who hasn't seen Scott in years, is in a frantic frame of mind, and likely afraid for his life. I think we can excuse him not remembering Ant-Man. Also, Tony probably takes into account if he did call everyone, it is a one way trip and everyone will likely die.

 

[HammerDown]

Saw the movie and had a blast.
So much to unpack... So many emotions... Great action, big stakes, beautiful visuals, good to decent humor, for the most part good cgi, great character moments and a really strong villain.

Thanos is in my book the best Marvel villain yet. I liked many aspects of his portrayal. He is insanely committed and also someone you kind of understand and want to see more of. He is kind of fair in his manic methodology. Truly a villain for the ages.

In terms of heroes i am gonna list the biggest standouts... Thor, Doctor Strange, Iron Man and Scarlet Witch. Honorable mentions go to Rocket and Gamora. So many great character moments.

- Thor arrival to Wakanda is epicness incarnated. His interactions throughout the movie are pure gold, specially the Thor - Rocket one... Incredible work from CH as Thor.
- Doctor Strange was amazing, his power and wisdom are at the same level and nearly unmatched. The way he manifest his power at certain points was very impressive.
- Iron Man is just the dude. This new armour was another level of greatness. So much cool stuff, so much inventiveness... visually striking.
- Scarlet Witch just keeps on progressing as a insanely powerful entity. The most untapped potential out of everyone. What a beast.

Rocket - There’s no rabbit like this one. When firing on all cilinders is just so damn charismatic and fun to watch.
Gamora - The range of emotions. What a powerful performance. Hats off.

Had a great experience at the theatre. Loved it. I would rank IW in my Top 3 MCU movies. It’s not perfect for sure but it’s an achievement in filmmaking.

 

[Dark Raven]

Tony did remember Peter Parker though as someone to recruit during Civil War, even though he'd only seen him on YouTube and didn't even personally know him.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Tony did remember Peter Parker though as someone to recruit during Civil War, even though he'd only seen him on YouTube and didn't even personally know him.

But he also was actively not recruiting him for THIS mission. This was not fighting Captain America.

 

[Venom'sDad]

The crisis literally just happened and Tony isn't thinking rationally enough to make a cataloged list of every superhero who ever existed. We fans can say "Hey, why didn't they call guy X" because we're not in iron suits fighting gods with stones that can kill us and can think of back logged history from things we marathoned last week. Tony Stark is a guy who hasn't seen Scott in years, is in a frantic frame of mind, and likely afraid for his life. I think we can excuse him not remembering Ant-Man. Also, Tony probably takes into account if he did call everyone, it is a one way trip and everyone will likely die.

Tony is a quick study, strategic & intelligent on the fly, & forgets nothing....especially power beings with special abilities & possess Pym's tech, that he is highly familiar with. I just don't follow your argument or why make the case.

Bottom line, the writers have their reason for not including Scott in this particular one.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Tony is a quick study, strategic & intelligent on the fly, & forgets nothing....especially power beings with special abilities & possess Pym's tech, that he is highly familiar with. I just don't follow your argument or why make the case.

Bottom line, the writers have their reason for not including Scott in this particular one.

Honestly, if we're going to play this game, why didn't he just bring EVERYONE to Titan to fight Thanos? If we're to assume he just remembers everyone, then why didn't he do that? This is why I think this is kind of a dumb thing to argue. Further I don't even think Tony wanted anyone to go with him to face Thanos.

 

[squeekness]

hence "the long run". we know they are all coming back

On this we agree.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Honestly, if we're going to play this game, why didn't he just bring EVERYONE to Titan to fight Thanos? If we're to assume he just remembers everyone, then why didn't he do that? This is why I think this is kind of a dumb thing to argue. Further I don't even think Tony wanted anyone to go with him to face Thanos.

Dude, you are the one arguing the point or playing the game...I just gave a rebuttal why I disagreed with Krypton's assessment...you said Tony didn't know who Scott was....It's Tony's desire & ability to know everything & everybody; That's his trait...that's the curse that Thanos so eloquently shared with Tony.

 

[WitcherGeralt]

He didn't know who Strange was tho..

 

[Spider-Fan]

Dude, you are the one arguing the point or playing the game...I just gave a rebuttal why I disagreed with Krypton's assessment...you said Tony didn't know who Scott was....It's Tony's desire & ability to know everything & everybody; That's his trait...that's the curse that Thanos so eloquently shared with Tony.

I'm taking this argument to it's logical conclusion. so, if Tony should have called in Ant-Man for whatever reason, then I am expanding that. Wouldn't having a War Machine against Thanos have been useful? What about Wanda? She would have been useful. Maybe he wouldn't want Vision due to the stone, but when he found out Thor was alive, why not call Thor? I can keep expanding this to include basically any character. This is why I think the overall argument is stupid: I can make that same argument for any character Tony did not seek help from. Essentially, this is no different to me than "Why was character x not in Iron Man 3?" or something like that. It's a waste to argue.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Also if Doctor Strange can hone in on people, why couldn't he find Vision? He should have been able to poof him there then.

 

[zack.n]

Don't know if anyone said this yet or not...just jumping in with a thought.

Set-up (not the thought): Strange looks at all the future outcomes before Thanos arrives. Presumably in some of them he uses the time stone as a weapon. Apparently none worked, and apparently the only future that works includes Thanos getting all 6 stones and Stark living. So that one possible future begins at that point, when T gets the time stone and Stark is saved. This much everyone knows.

Okay but all that also means something else. T’s one goal is to eradicate half of the universe’s population, and then he’s done. Strange must have seen that in the timeline he initiates by trading the stone for Stark, T accomplishes that. He does it, Strange must have seen that, and then T’s done. So what would victory over him mean under those conditions? It must mean reversing what T did and restoring everyone he wiped out. Otherwise making that particular sacrifice (half the universe gone) makes no sense. It only makes sense if that combination of details (Stark lives, T gets the stone, T does the wipe out) THEN leads to the good guys finding a way to reverse the wipe-out (probably by getting the gauntlet themselves, which in fact is what happens in the comics). Or rather it's the stones they get since the gauntlet is toast, but they can get Eitri to make another since he has the mold. Anyway this is why Nebula surviving also matters so much–she’s the only one who can get the other Avengers to where T is so they can get the stones for themselves.

All that was just meant to look at why Strange says they win in one timeline yet that win at first looks like it contains T's universal half wipe-out.


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[Venom'sDad]

I'm taking this argument to it's logical conclusion. so, if Tony should have called in Ant-Man for whatever reason, then I am expanding that. Wouldn't having a War Machine against Thanos have been useful? What about Wanda? She would have been useful. Maybe he wouldn't want Vision due to the stone, but when he found out Thor was alive, why not call Thor? I can keep expanding this to include basically any character. This is why I think the overall argument is stupid: I can make that same argument for any character Tony did not seek help from. Essentially, this is no different to me than "Why was character x not in Iron Man 3?" or something like that. It's a waste to argue.

Then why are you constantly making a case.....?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Then why are you constantly making a case.....?

I don't understand your point. What case? I'm pointing out this "plot hole" can be applied to everyone and every Marvel film.

 

[zack.n]

Purely from whats planned the next few years, those that died at the end of the movie HAVE to come back in Avengers 4.
By that i mean, Gaurdians 3 has been ear marked for 2020 release and the actor that plays Spider man has posed online that he will be in the next Spiderman movie.

My prediction is the remaining Avengers (who by the way are all most the originals) will help Captain Marvel take on Thanos, take control of the infinity stones, and use the Time stone to turn back time and therefore stop the characters from dying at the end of 3.

Also i think Tony Stark will play a major part, maybe he will be the one that provides the death blow to Thanos? After all, Thanos seemed to know a lot about Stark, maybe with the help of the stones. He may have seen a future in which Stark beats Thano.

Also Captain America could possibly be the one strong enough to handle the infinity stones without dying. Maybe he will play an important part, maybe even sacrfice himself (the soul stone requires a sacrifice from the holder). Perhaps Captain America will sacrifice himself to save the world. In 3, didnt he say something to Vision about trading places, sacrifice?

If they have all 6 stones all they have to do is the opposite of Thanos. Just put the gauntlet on, snap your fingers, and all is restored.

Then maybe snap your fingers with the command being that the stones go out of existence forever?

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[legendkillin]

Also if Doctor Strange can hone in on people, why couldn't he find Vision? He should have been able to poof him there then.

An Dr.Strange didn't even know who Thanos was. I don't think he can easily hone in and know everyone.

 

[Venom'sDad]

An Dr.Strange didn't even know who Thanos was. I don't think he can easily hone in and know everyone.

Exactly....but everyone knows who Tony Stark is....Stephen certainly.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Exactly....but everyone knows who Tony Stark is....Stephen certainly.

But again, why couldn't he hone in on Vision? Why would I think he could hone in on Scott any easier than Vision? There's obvious limits to this power. Just being on house arrest, given he is Ant-Man, doesn't mean he is there anyway.